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1.  Jack G.  
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On Nov 30, 3:23 pm, TruthTel...@nospam.net wrote:

I see the insane Truth Teller is still around.
If you want to know why he is insane and should be ignored
do a search on Formosa's Law.

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2.  truthtel...@nospam.net  
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There are limits to "free speech" there asshole. Courts have ruled it.  
Now print that out, roill it up and stuff were the sun don't shine -->so
it will be close enough to your head for you to read goober.  

PS asshole  -> You idiot lost the election.  AYour asses were thrown out
of office in a landslide, just like I said they would be.  Take that for
inane retard!

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   at 11:47 AM, "Jack G." <jgran...@pioneernet.net> said:


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3.  Jack G.  
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On Dec 1, 2:45 pm, TruthTel...@nospam.net wrote:

The only landslide was between Truth Teller's ears.
Insane people make stupid replies.

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Hey goober jack, Obama won in a landslide.  Deal with it asshole.

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Astonishing !

48 days to inauguration day.

Obama's government is forming with the best and
brightest our nation can provide.

Time to stop Republican thrashing death throes.

January 20th!


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Attorney: 'Mr. Obama has thumbed his nose at the highest court in our land - TWICE'  
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Berg V. Obama: The Day of Reckoning

By Thomas Latino

Thomas J. Latino, Esq.

  The deadline has come and gone. At 5pm Eastern Standard Time,
yesterday, December 1st, 2008 the case of Berg v. Obama reached a
seminal moment. Yesterday was the deadline for the Obama legal team to
file their response to the Berg Petition for a Writ of Certiorari.
There was nothing. According to the Supreme Court's docket for the
case nothing was filed overnight. Mr. Obama has done what hasn't been
done before, he has made history twice, Mr. Obama has blatantly
ignored a request from the Supreme Court of the United States—our
highest and most revered legal institution; Mr. Obama, quiet frankly
has thumbed his nose at the highest court in our land.

  Being an attorney, I know full well that Rule 11 of the United
States Supreme Court does not specifically dictate a Respondent file a
reply brief "unless specifically ordered by the Court"—and to be fair
we have no evidence to show that Mr. Obama was indeed ordered by the
Court to produce such a reply. However, it is out of sheer reverence
and respect for the institution, if not to underscore the merits of
your case and the lacking of your opponents' that almost ALL
Respondents file some sort of reply with the court. Mr. Obama's
actions yesterday reek of a type of arrogance that even I as an
attorney never displayed to any court nor have I ever witnessed such
flippant behavior during my legal career.

  This is not some low level circuit court; this is the United States
Supreme Court. Why would the Obama legal team find it necessary to
work so diligently in the Federal Court in Pennsylvania filing Motions
to Dismiss and Protective Orders and not even file a Waiver of Rights
with the Supreme Court? One can surmise two logical possible
explanations for Mr. Obama's strategy: (1) Mr. Obama is putting all
his chips on the hopes that 4 justices will view Mr. Berg's petition
as laughable and deny his Petition for the Writ and (2) Refer to #1.

  So what now? Now the issue rests with 9 robed clad justices residing
in the inner most chambers of America's most revered legal
institution. We will know more likely than not before the week is out
whether or not the court will hear this case. The justices now find
themselves in a most unenviable position. They have to way the
consequences of their actions. If they vote to hear the case, do they
stay the Electoral College vote? And if they find for Berg what then?
Do we have new elections if Mr. Obama fails to show he is a natural
born citizen and who will be responsible for setting a time table?

  What if they deny Berg's petition? That answer is relatively simple.
This issue goes away once and for all. The other 14 lawsuits pending
in various states will suffer a mortal blow—all the district courts in
those cases will do is cite the US Supreme Court case of Berg v. Obama
___ US____ (2008) as binding precedent and that will be that.
What will the justices have to consider? These 9 justices are charged
with deciding if one American citizen has the standing to legitimately
challenge the constitutional qualifications of our President-Elect. A
man who will be our leader, our public servant, our Commander in
Chief; a man who will, god forbid, be charged with the responsibility
of sending our sons, daughters, husbands, wives, aunts, uncles,
cousins, brothers and sisters into harms way to fight and possibly die
for our beloved nation. The court will determine if Berg is directly
injured by Obama's transgressions. If Berg has any siblings in the US
Armed forces, it would seem he would have a direct interest and the
possibility for direct harm if the President sent his sibling to fight
and die should not have been allowed to serve in the first place.
Indeed, all Americans would have a vested interest and thus standing.

  As noteworthy as this argument is, the court has not forgotten Bush
v. Gore and the fallout that decision created. There are those on the
court that remember the hit the court's approval rating took after
many on the left accused it of "stealing" an election and "injecting
law into a political, democratic process". These are valid arguments;
after all, judges are political animals at heart; they have to be
elected to the local circuit and to be successfully elected one has to
be a decent politician. It is for this reason that I am still
uncertain as to what the court will ultimately decide. On one hand we
have the gravity of the US Constitution, Article 2 Section 1; on the
other we have a court who has its ear to the ground, who can ascertain
the public fallout not only if they agree to hear the case but if the
eventually were to find for Berg. It is very likely, the court will
decide to simply "punt" the issue and avoid opening a can of worms.

  I conclude this article with a simple question that I realize will
generate a myriad of responses, "If Mr. Berg, an American citizen,
does not hold the right to challenge the constitutional requirements
of the President-Elect of the United States, then who among us will
ever; who among us will have the authority to challenge such an
individual if there are legitimate questions surrounding his or her
qualifications?" Some will undoubtedly answer that Congress is the
only one to hold such authority. Do we really want a partisan, elected
body -many of them belonging to the same party as the President-Elect
involved in such an issue? Allowing Congressmen to interject
themselves would turn the process into some sort of morbid, grand-
standing ploy, everyone clamoring for their 15 seconds of fame. This
issue is something Congress would be to inept to handle.

  If Berg's Petition is granted, it will be an oral argument session
that will go down as one of the seminal moments in the judiciary's 200
year history. There is no greater charge entrusted to the Supreme
Court than to prevent any grievous usurpation of the US Constitution;
it is there solemn duty—regardless of political ideology or
identification—to entrust the fundamental rule of law is upheld.


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Berg V. Obama: The Day of Reckoning

By Thomas Latino

Thomas J. Latino, Esq.

  The deadline has come and gone. At 5pm Eastern Standard Time,
yesterday, December 1st, 2008 the case of Berg v. Obama reached a
seminal moment.

I believe he was telling them their asses sucked canal water


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Democrat asks Supremes to halt electors: 'Obama does not meet the natural born qualifications'  
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Democrat asks Supremes to halt electors

Obama lets deadline slip by without responding to petition, so
attorney takes next step

December 02, 2008

After President-elect Barack Obama and the Democratic National
Committee let a Dec. 1 deadline slip by without responding to
Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg's petition for writ of certiorari
demanding Obama produce a legitimate birth certificate, the attorney
is now filing a motion to stop Obama from taking office in January.

Berg has filed an emergency motion for immediate injunction, America's
Right blogger and legal writer Jeff Schreiber reports. Berg is asking
the court to stop state certification of electors to keep the
Electoral College from meeting Dec. 15 and casting votes for Obama. He
is also seeking to postpone the official vote count Jan. 6 until the
court reaches a decision on his appeal.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. and thus a
"natural-born American" as required by Article 2, Section 1 of the
Constitution? If you still want to see it, sign WND's petition
demanding the release of his birth certificate.

"It is my firm belief, my one thousand percent firm belief," Berg told
Schreiber, "that he does not meet the natural born qualifications,
that he should not be voted for by the electors, and that he should
not be sworn in this January unless he shows his credentials ... which
he of course cannot, simply because he does not have them."

Berg filed his petition Oct. 30, and according to procedure, a
response from the defendants was due yesterday. While the Federal
Election Commission waived its right to respond to the complaint Nov.
18, there has been no word from Obama or the DNC.

The parties are not legally required to respond, and Berg said he
doesn't expect them to do so. He believes the defendants will argue
that he lacks standing.

"If they were going to respond, I get the feeling that it would have
been in there by now," Berg told Schreiber. "The feeling may be that,
if they respond, they could hold themselves out for perjury later on
when we're successful. That's why, in the lower court, they just
relied on a motion to dismiss based on standing. Here, they may not
want to file an actual, specific response in the Supreme Court for
fear they'll be held to it later."

Berg referenced nationwide efforts to demand Obama produce an original
birth certificate.

"We're finding that there is a great interest across the United
States," Berg said. "I've been on talk show after talk show, and the
more the case is discussed, the more people are made aware of it and
are disgusted by the fact that Obama just won't simply produce the
credentials showing he's qualified. Hopefully, some authority will
demand it."

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     What Would the U.S.A.'s Founding Fathers Do?

  If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and
 silent we may be led, like sheep, to the slaughter.
  -- George Washington

  If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that
original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive
forms of government ... The citizens must rush tumultuously to
arms, without concert, without system, without resource;
except in their courage and despair ...

  The natural strength of the people in a large community, in
proportion to the artificial strength of the government, is greater
than in a small ... the people, without exaggeration, may be said
to be entirely the masters of their own fate.
  -- Alexander Hamilton

  We in America do not have government by the majority.
We have government by the majority who participate.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good
conscience to remain silent.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of
the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe
depositories.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to
keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves
against tyranny in government.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  As our enemies have found we can reason like men, so now
let us show them we can fight like men also.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going
to do.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the
Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will
delineate and define you.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which
they draw their gains.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

 I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied
corporations which dare already to challenge our government to
a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
liberties than standing armies.
  -- Thomas Jefferson

  Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government
those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations,
perverted it into tyranny.
  -- Thomas Jefferson


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You idiots want Biden for President?

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PassportsUSA.com: Obama birth certificate "clearly falsified" *and* Obama = illegal alien  
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A Washington State Passport Expert Says Barack Obama Is An Illegal
Alien

From: James Coats

Barack Obama's so-called birth certificate is what is referred by
specialists as an "abstract birth certificate."

In today's identity-sensitive environment, Obama would not be able to
prove his citizenship to the State Department with his current birth
certificate failing to show a witnesses' signature.

When Obama or any other politician travels abroad, the State
Department issues them a "diplomatic passport" which is taken back as
soon as they return.

My wife currently works for the U.S. Postal Service and I am retired
from it. In her position, my wife has processed thousands of U.S.
passports. To obtain a passport, you need a viable birth certificate.
There are two elements of a birth certificate that, if missing,
disqualify you from obtaining a passport:

The attending physician’s signature, a midwife’s signature or
verifiable secondary evidence of U. S. Citizenship

The name of the hospital in which you were born, or treated after your
birth should it have occurred at home, in a car or any other location
within the U.S.

These elements are missing from Obama's birth certificate. My
professional evaluation is that Obama is an illegal alien is subject
to deportation.

To support my argument, I encourage you to review the citizenship
information put out by the State Department.

Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship

Secondary Evidence of U. S. Citizenship

Here is a link to my website [http://passportsusa.com/?page_id=209]
dedicated to passport issues. It shows a comparison between Obama's
clearly falsified 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate and my sister's
birth certificate—she was actually born in Hawaii in 1962. Her
document is what real Hawaiian birth certificates looked like at that
time.

People often engage in fraud in their attempts to gain a U. S.
passport. These schemes are uncovered by small errors.

For example, Obama's father would not have been referred to as
"African" in 1961 but would have been identified as "Negro”. The "n"
of “Negro would have been in lower case, not capitalized.

Obama himself would have been identified as "mulatto", and if he had
been born out of wedlock as "illegitimate" or "bastard", depending on
the state he was born in.

Finally, there is a huge difference between a "Certification of Live
Birth" and a "Certificate of Live Birth."

A "Certification of Live Birth" is a testament to the fact that you
were born of a woman, easily proven by all of us.

However, a "Certificate of Live Birth" is a testament of proof to the
fact of "where" you were born—something that Obama refuses to do.

This matter is poetic justice for John McCain. His support of illegal
immigration has indirectly resulted in an alien outlaw defeating him
and becoming U.S. president.


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