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1.  Old Man  
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 Mais opções 30 set 2006, 16:34
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De: "Old Man" <old...@clevelandmtg.net>
Data: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 12:34:47 -0700
Local: Sab 30 set 2006 16:34
Assunto: Stupid weirdos
Clicked this NG to find something about the USNavy - found a huge bunch of
stupid weirdos.

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2.  Duke of URL  
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De: "Duke of URL" <NotMoses.DukeOf...@NotGmail.com>
Data: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:12:48 -0500
Local: Ter 3 out 2006 23:12
Assunto: Re: Stupid weirdos
"Old Man" <old...@clevelandmtg.net> wrote in message

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> Clicked this NG to find something about the USNavy - found a huge bunch of
> stupid weirdos.

Ya gotta do a lot of filtering, but there are some good shipmates in here.
--
Moses Lambert PO1(SW) USN(ret)
Prothonotary Wibbler, Paleoconservative, Surface Warrior Squid, Aristocidal
Philosoph

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3.  pinchee  
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Data: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:20:17 -0700
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Assunto: Re: Stupid weirdos
Thanks Moses - you revived a bit if belief.

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September's 70 U.S. troops killed in Iraq highest since April, 2006 - Cannon Fodder to make Oil-Billionaires Richer, NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM... do your part  
1.  robbin hood zorrro  
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 Mais opções 30 set 2006, 19:05
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De: "robbin hood zorrro" <robbinhoodzor...@hotmail.com>
Data: 30 Sep 2006 15:05:13 -0700
Local: Sab 30 set 2006 19:05
Assunto: September's 70 U.S. troops killed in Iraq highest since April, 2006 - Cannon Fodder to make Oil-Billionaires Richer, NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM... do your part

http://icasualties.org/oif/

Harry
(see all of Harry Hope's excellent posts as they break, put this link
in your browser, use it, this is a search on google groups, on the
author Harry Hope sorted by date... nothing fancy):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=-nIhF...

With history moving so fast these days you might also want to sort
Harry Hope's posts by "relevance" particulary if the lies and
misdirection that we are all being sujected to by the extensive Bush
Crime Family Propagand machine are confusing you. Using the "sort by
relevance" option has a way of letting you take in the big picture.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&enc_author=-nIhFBQAAACtBOU...

==========================================================
NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your
part to save the USA and mankind.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/29/193445/904

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:n0QU-xqpkkIJ:www.apfn.org/pdf/DI...
(the above link is the html version of a pdf file... please click on
the pdf link it brings up and download the form that lets you help in
getting Bush impeached... you need Adobe to read and print the pdf
form)

Note there are also clauses in the Constitution by which we can get
impeached all the corrupt judges that the impeached Bush has stacked
the courts with....

Do Not Give Up Hope.

-- Bush Crime Family Is the "Mountain of Corruption" on which all the
other molehills live(dating back to granpappy Prescott Bush's
patnership with Adolph Hitler) ... it is a symbiotic coupling, cut off
the head of the serpent and the culture of corruption surrounding and
supporting Bush Crime Family will fade. NOVEMBER IS A REFERENDUM ON
IMPEACHMENT OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your part to save mankind...
vote Democrat (or if the Green Candidate is winning vote Green)

Karl Rove exposed, thus destroying, a legitimate undercover CIA
operation that was protecting the U.S. and the world from black market
nuclear weapons... WHY? because they had proven that Bush was lying
about WMD's in Iraq before the 2004 elections. Karl Rove, one of the
main people who tells Bush what to say(everyone knows Bush is dumb as a
rock) is guilty of TREASON.

===========================================================


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2.  Nebulous  
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 Mais opções 30 set 2006, 19:47
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De: "Nebulous" <Nebul...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk>
Data: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:47:51 +0100
Local: Sab 30 set 2006 19:47
Assunto: Re: September's 70 U.S. troops killed in Iraq highest since April, 2006 - Cannon Fodder to make Oil-Billionaires Richer, NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM... do your part

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3.  Nebulous  
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De: "Nebulous" <Nebul...@pigtail.freeserve.co.uk>
Data: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:48:28 +0100
Local: Sab 30 set 2006 19:48
Assunto: Re: September's 70 U.S. troops killed in Iraq highest since April, 2006 - Cannon Fodder to make Oil-Billionaires Richer, NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM... do your part

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  Sanctissimo Patri in Christo ac Domino, domino Johanni, diuina
prouidiencia Sacrosancte Romane et Vniuersalis Ecclesie Summo Pontifici,
Filii Sui Humiles et deuoti Duncanus Comes de Fyf, Thomas Ranulphi Comes
Morauie Dominus Mannie et Vallis Anandie, Patricius de Dumbar Comes Marchie,
Malisius Comes de Stratheryne, Malcolmus Comes de Leuenax, Willelmus Comes
de Ross, Magnus Comes Cathanie et Orkadie et Willelmus Comes Suthirlandie;
Walterus Senescallus Scocie, Willelmus de Soules Buttelarius Scocie, Jacobus
Dominus de Duglas, Rogerus de Moubray, Dauid Dominus de Brechyn, Dauid de
Graham, Ingeramus de Vmfrauille, Johannes de Menetethe Custos Comitatus de
Menetethe, Alexander Fraser, Gilbertus de Haya Constabularius Scocie,
Robertus de Keth Marescallus Scocie, Henricus de Sancto Claro, Johannes de
Graham, Dauid de Lindesay, Willelmus Olifaunt, Patricius de Graham, Johannes
de Fentoun, Willelmus de Abirnithy, Dauid de Wemys, Willelmus de Montefixo,
Fergusius de Ardrossane, Eustachius de Maxwell, Willelmus de Ramesay,
Willelmus de Montealto, Alanus de Morauia, Douenaldus Cambell, Johannes
Cambrun, Reginaldus le chen, Alexander de Setoun, Andreas de Lescelyne, et
Alexander de Stratoun, Ceterique Barones et Liberetenenetes ac tota
Communitas Regni Scocie, omnimodam Reuerenciam filialem cum deuotis Pedum
osculis beatorum.
  Scimus, Sanctissime Pater et Domine, et ex antiquorum gestis et libris
Colligimus quod inter Ceteras naciones egregias nostra scilicet Scottorum
nacio multis preconijs fuerit insignita, que de Maiori Schithia per Mare
tirenium et Columpnas Herculis transiens et in Hispania inter ferocissimas
gentes per multa temporum curricula Residens a nullis quantumcumque
barbaricis poterat allicubi gentibus subiugari. Indeque veniens post mille
et ducentos annos a transitu populi israelitici per mare rubrum sibi sedes
in Occidente quas nunc optinet, expulsis primo Britonibus et Pictis omnino
deletis, licet per Norwagienses, Dacos et Anglicos sepius inpugnata fuerit,
multis cum victorijs et Laboribus quamplurimis adquisuit, ipsaque ab omni
seruitute liberas, vt Priscorum testantur Historie, semper tenuit. In quorum
Regno Centum et Tredescim Reges de ipsorum Regali prosapia, nullo alienigena
interueniente, Regnauerunt.

  Quorum Nobilitates et Merita, licet ex aliis non clarerent, satis patenter
effulgent ex eo quod Rex Regum et dominancium dominus Jhesus Christus post
passionem suam et Resurreccionem ipsos in vltimis terre finibus constitutos
quasi primos ad suam fidem sanctissimam conuocauit. Nec eos per quemlibet in
dicta fide confirmari voluit set per suum primum apostolum vocacione quamuis
ordine secundum vel tercium, sanctum Andream mitissimum beati Petri
Germanum, quem semper ipsis preesse voluit vt Patronum.

  Hec autem Sanctissimi Patres et Predecessores vestri sollicita mente
pensantes ipsum Regnum et populum vt beati Petri germani peculium multis
fauoribus et priuilegijs quamplurimis Munierunt, Ita quippe quod gens nostra
sub ipsorum proteccione hactenus libera deguit et quieta donec ille Princeps
Magnificus Rex Anglorum Edwardus, pater istius qui nunc est, Regnum nostrum
acephalum populumque nullius mali aut doli nec bellis aut insultibus tunc
assuetum sub amici et confederati specie inimicabiliter infestauit. Cuius
iniurias, Cedes, violencias, predaciones, incendia, prelatorum
incarceraciones, Monasteriorum combustiones, Religiosorum spoliaciones et
occisiones alia quoque enormia et innumera que in dicto populo exercuit,
nulli parcens etati aut sexui, Religioni aut ordini, nullus scriberet nec ad
plenum intelligeret nisi quem experiencia informaret.

  A quibus Malis innumeris, ipso Juuante qui post uulnera medetur et sanat,
liberati sumus per strenuissimum Principem, Regem et Dominum nostrum,
Dominum Robertum, qui pro populo et hereditate suis de manibus Inimicorum
liberandis quasi alter Machabeus aut Josue labores et tedia, inedias et
pericula, leto sustinuit animo. Quem eciam diuina disposicio et iuxta leges
et Consuetudines nostra, quas vsque ad mortem sustinere volumus, Juris
successio et debitus nostrorum omnium Consensus et Assensus nostrum fecerunt
Principem atque Regem, cui tanquam illi per quem salus in populo nostro
facta est pro nostra libertate tuenda tam Jure quam meritis tenemur et
volumus in omnibus adherere.

  Quem si ab inceptis desisteret, regi Anglorum aut Anglicis nos aut Regnum
nostrum volens subicere, tanquam inimicum nostrum et sui nostrique Juris
subuersorem statim expellere niteremur et alium Regem nostrum qui ad
defensionem nostram sufficeret faceremus. Quia quamdiu Centum ex nobis viui
remanserint, nuncquam Anglorum dominio aliquatenus volumus subiugari. Non
enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem
solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. Hinc est, Reuerende
Pater et Domine,

  Quod sanctitatem vestram omni precum instancia genuflexis cordibus
exoramus quatinus sincero corde Menteque pia recensentes quod apud eum cuius
vices in terris geritis cum non sit Pondus nec distinccio Judei et greci,
Scoti aut Anglici, tribulaciones et angustias nobis et Ecclesie dei illatas
ab Anglicis paternis occulis intuentes, Regem Anglorum, cui sufficere debet
quod possidet cum olim Anglia septem aut pluribus solebat sufficere Regibus,
Monere et exhortari dignemini vt nos scotos, in exili degentes Scocia vltra
quam habitacia non est nichilque nisi nostrum Cupientes, in pace dimittat.
Cui pro nostra procuranda quiete quicquid possumus, ad statum nostrum
Respectu habito, facere volumus cum effectu.

  Vestra enim interest, sancte Pater, hoc facere qui paganorum feritatem,
Christianorum culpis exigentibus, in Christianos seuientem aspicitis et
Christianorum terminos arctari indies, quantumque vestre sanctitatis memorie
derogat si (quod absit) Ecclesia in aliqua sui parte vestris temporibus
patiatur eclipsim aut Scandalum, vos videritis. Excitet igitur Christianos
Principes qui non causam vt causam ponentes se fingunt in subsidium terre
sancte propter guerras quas habent cum proximis ire non posse. Cuius
inpedimenti Causa est verior quod in Minoribus proximis debellandis vtilitas
proprior et resistencia debilior estimantur. Set quam leto corde dictus
dominus Rex noster et Nos si Rex Anglorum nos is pace dimitteret illus
iremus qui nichil ignorat satis novit. Quod Christi vicario totique
Christianitati ostendimus et testamur.

  Quibus si sanctitas vestra Anglorum relatibus nimis credula fidem sinceram
non adhibeat aut ipsis in nostram confusionem fauere non desinat, corporum
excidia, animarum exicia, et cetera que sequentur incomoda que ipsi in nobis
et Nos in ipsis fecerimus vobis ab altissimo credimus inputanda.

  Ex quo sumus et erimus in hiis que tenemur tanquam obediencie filii vobis
tanquam ipsius vicario parati in omnibus complacere, ipsique tanquam Summo
Regi et Judici causam nostram tuendam committimus, Cogitatium nostrum
Jactantes in ipso sperantesque firmiter quod in nobis virtutem faciet et ad
nichilum rediget hostes nostros.

  Sanctitatem ac sanitatem vestram conseruet altissimus Ecclesie sue sancte
per tempora diuturna.

  Datum apud Monasterium de Abirbrothoc in Scocis Sexto die mensis Aprilis
Anno gracie Millesimo Trescentesimo vicesimo Anno vero Regni Regis nostri
supradicti Quinto decimo.

Endorsed: Littere directe ad dominum Supremum Pontificem per communitatem
Scocie.

Names inscribed on some of the seal tags: Alexander de Lambertoun, Edwardus
de Keth, Johannes de Inchmertyn, Thomas de Meiners, Johannes Duraunt, Thomas
de Morham (and one illegible).


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"Bush made no mention of the key reasons for the Taliban's resurgence: the diversion of U.S. troops to Iraq" Victory? -- November is Impeachment Referendum  
1.  robbbinhoodzorr...@hotmail.com  
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De: robbbinhoodzorr...@hotmail.com
Data: 30 Sep 2006 15:40:38 -0700
Local: Sab 30 set 2006 19:40
Assunto: "Bush made no mention of the key reasons for the Taliban's resurgence: the diversion of U.S. troops to Iraq" Victory? -- November is Impeachment Referendum

NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your
part to save the USA and mankind.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/29/193445/904

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:n0QU-xqpkkIJ:www.apfn.org/pdf/DI...
(the above link is the html version of a pdf file... please click on
the pdf link it brings up and download the form that lets you help in
getting Bush impeached... you need Adobe to read and print the pdf
form)

Note there are also clauses in the Constitution by which we can get
impeached all the corrupt judges that the impeached Bush has stacked
the courts with....

Do Not Give Up Hope.

-- Bush Crime Family Is the "Mountain of Corruption" on which all the
other molehills live(dating back to granpappy Prescott Bush's
patnership with Adolph Hitler) ... it is a symbiotic coupling, cut off
the head of the serpent and the culture of corruption surrounding and
supporting Bush Crime Family will fade. NOVEMBER IS A REFERENDUM ON
IMPEACHMENT OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your part to save mankind...
vote Democrat (or if the Green Candidate is winning vote Green)

Karl Rove exposed, thus destroying, a legitimate undercover CIA
operation that was protecting the U.S. and the world from black market
nuclear weapons... WHY? because they had proven that Bush was lying
about WMD's in Iraq before the 2004 elections. Karl Rove, one of the
main people who tells Bush what to say(everyone knows Bush is dumb as a
rock) is guilty of TREASON.

===========================================================

"Bush made no mention of the key reasons for the Taliban's resurgence:
the diversion of U.S. troops to Iraq"  ... VICTORY????

>From The Mercury News, 9/29/06:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/15642585.htm

Bush hails liberation of Afghanistan as a `great achievement'

By William Douglas and Jonathan S. Landay
McClatchy Newspapers

(MCT)

WASHINGTON -

Amid signs that the Taliban insurgency is regaining strength, President
Bush on Friday defended his efforts to stabilize war-savaged
Afghanistan and blasted critics who charge that his policies there are
failing.

Afghanistan is reeling from its worst bloodshed since the 2001 U.S.-led
intervention as the Taliban and allied warlords tie down 42,000
American and NATO-led troops and President Hamid Karzai struggles with
colossal corruption, record opium production and nose-diving
popularity.

In his most extensive remarks on Afghanistan recently, Bush sought to
accentuate the positive, praising Karzai's democratic government,
hailing the training of the Afghan National Army and noting the
multinational contributions to the anti-Taliban fight.

"The liberation of Afghanistan was a great achievement," Bush told the
Reserve Officers Association, which represents the interests of
military reservists in Washington.

The president acknowledged setbacks, such as faltering police reform.

But he made no mention of the key reasons for the Taliban's resurgence:

the diversion of U.S. troops to Iraq;

America's failure to make good on a promise of a reconstruction program
akin to the rebuilding of post-World War II Europe;

endemic corruption;

and the support the Taliban receive from Pakistan.

Bush instead praised Pakistan as a strong ally in fighting terrorism.

Several of the president's statements about Afghanistan's judicial and
legal reforms were misleading:

_He praised Karzai for naming new Supreme Court judges. But he failed
to mention that the Afghan parliament rejected Karzai's nominee for
chief justice, a conservative cleric blamed for stalling reform, who
favored Islamic laws mandating that adulterers be stoned to death and
thieves have their hands amputated.

_He praised Italy for helping to train Afghan judges and prosecutors.
Many Western officials and experts say the effort is seriously flawed
and that Afghanistan's legal system is in a state of collapse.

_He said the Afghan National Police "have faced problems with
corruption and substandard leadership." He contended that Karzai's
government began tackling the problem after appointing a new leadership
team this summer. But he didn't mention that Karzai named to his team
14 senior police generals whom U.S., European and U.N. officials
opposed because of their alleged involvement in human-rights abuses and
corruption.

__________________________________________________________

Once again, instead of truth, the American people get spin spin spin

Harry
(see all of Harry Hope's excellent posts as they break, put this link
in your browser, use it, this is a search on google groups, on the
author Harry Hope sorted by date... nothing fancy):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=-nIhF...

With history moving so fast these days you might also want to sort
Harry Hope's posts by "relevance" particulary if the lies and
misdirection that we are all being sujected to by the extensive Bush
Crime Family Propagand machine are confusing you. Using the "sort by
relevance" option has a way of letting you take in the big picture.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&enc_author=-nIhFBQAAACtBOU...


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2.  Nebulous  
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Data: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:49:23 +0100
Local: Sab 30 set 2006 19:49
Assunto: Re: "Bush made no mention of the key reasons for the Taliban's resurgence: the diversion of U.S. troops to Iraq" Victory? -- November is Impeachment Referendum

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  To the most Holy Father and Lord in Christ, the Lord John, by divine
providence Supreme Pontiff of the Holy Roman and Universal Church, his
humble and devout sons Duncan, Earl of Fife, Thomas Randolph, Earl of Moray,
Lord of Man and of Annandale, Patrick Dunbar, Earl of March, Malise, Earl of
Strathearn, Malcolm, Earl of Lennox, William, Earl of Ross, Magnus, Earl of
Caithness and Orkney, and William, Earl of Sutherland; Walter, Steward of
Scotland, William Soules, Butler of Scotland, James, Lord of Douglas, Roger
Mowbray, David, Lord of Brechin, David Graham, Ingram Umfraville, John
Menteith, guardian of the earldom of Menteith, Alexander Fraser, Gilbert
Hay, Constable of Scotland, Robert Keith, Marischal of Scotland, Henry St
Clair, John Graham, David Lindsay, William Oliphant, Patrick Graham, John
Fenton, William Abernethy, David Wemyss, William Mushet, Fergus of
Ardrossan, Eustace Maxwell, William Ramsay, William Mowat, Alan Murray,
Donald Campbell, John Cameron, Reginald Cheyne, Alexander Seton, Andrew
Leslie, and Alexander Straiton, and the other barons and freeholders and the
whole community of the realm of Scotland send all manner of filial
reverence, with devout kisses of his blessed feet.
  Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of
the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has
been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia by
way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long
course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they
be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred
years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the
west where they still live today. The Britons they first drove out, the
Picts they utterly destroyed, and, even though very often assailed by the
Norwegians, the Danes and the English, they took possession of that home
with many victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time
bear witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since. In their
kingdom there have reigned one hundred and thirteen kings of their own royal
stock, the line unbroken a single foreigner.

  The high qualities and deserts of these people, were they not otherwise
manifest, gain glory enough from this: that the King of kings and Lord of
lords, our Lord Jesus Christ, after His Passion and Resurrection, called
them, even though settled in the uttermost parts of the earth, almost the
first to His most holy faith. Nor would He have them confirmed in that faith
by merely anyone but by the first of His Apostles -- by calling, though
second or third in rank -- the most gentle Saint Andrew, the Blessed Peter's
brother, and desired him to keep them under his protection as their patron
forever.

  The Most Holy Fathers your predecessors gave careful heed to these things
and bestowed many favours and numerous privileges on this same kingdom and
people, as being the special charge of the Blessed Peter's brother. Thus our
nation under their protection did indeed live in freedom and peace up to the
time when that mighty prince the King of the English, Edward, the father of
the one who reigns today, when our kingdom had no head and our people
harboured no malice or treachery and were then unused to wars or invasions,
came in the guise of a friend and ally to harass them as an enemy. The deeds
of cruelty, massacre, violence, pillage, arson, imprisoning prelates,
burning down monasteries, robbing and killing monks and nuns, and yet other
outrages without number which he committed against our people, sparing
neither age nor sex, religion nor rank, no one could describe nor fully
imagine unless he had seen them with his own eyes.

  But from these countless evils we have been set free, by the help of Him
Who though He afflicts yet heals and restores, by our most tireless Prince,
King and Lord, the Lord Robert. He, that his people and his heritage might
be delivered out of the hands of our enemies, met toil and fatigue, hunger
and peril, like another Macabaeus or Joshua and bore them cheerfully. Him,
too, divine providence, his right of succession according to or laws and
customs which we shall maintain to the death, and the due consent and assent
of us all have made our Prince and King. To him, as to the man by whom
salvation has been wrought unto our people, we are bound both by law and by
his merits that our freedom may be still maintained, and by him, come what
may, we mean to stand.

  Yet if he should give up what he has begun, and agree to make us or our
kingdom subject to the King of England or the English, we should exert
ourselves at once to drive him out as our enemy and a subverter of his own
rights and ours, and make some other man who was well able to defend us our
King; for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any
conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor
riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone,
which no honest man gives up but with life itself.

  Therefore it is, Reverend Father and Lord, that we beseech your Holiness
with our most earnest prayers and suppliant hearts, inasmuch as you will in
your sincerity and goodness consider all this, that, since with Him Whose
Vice-Regent on earth you are there is neither weighing nor distinction of
Jew and Greek, Scotsman or Englishman, you will look with the eyes of a
father on the troubles and privation brought by the English upon us and upon
the Church of God. May it please you to admonish and exhort the King of the
English, who ought to be satisfied with what belongs to him since England
used once to be enough for seven kings or more, to leave us Scots in peace,
who live in this poor little Scotland, beyond which there is no
dwelling-place at all, and covet nothing but our own. We are sincerely
willing to do anything for him, having regard to our condition, that we can,
to win peace for ourselves.

  This truly concerns you, Holy Father, since you see the savagery of the
heathen raging against the Christians, as the sins of Christians have indeed
deserved, and the frontiers of Christendom being pressed inward every day;
and how much it will tarnish your Holiness's memory if (which God forbid)
the Church suffers eclipse or scandal in any branch of it during your time,
you must perceive. Then rouse the Christian princes who for false reasons
pretend that they cannot go to help of the Holy Land because of wars they
have on hand with their neighbours. The real reason that prevents them is
that in making war on their smaller neighbours they find quicker profit and
weaker resistance. But how cheerfully our Lord the King and we too would go
there if the King of the English would leave us in peace, He from Whom
nothing is hidden well knows; and we profess and declare it to you as the
Vicar of Christ and to all Christendom.

  But if your Holiness puts too much faith in the tales the English tell and
will not give sincere belief to all this, nor refrain from favouring them to
our prejudice, then the slaughter of bodies, the perdition of souls, and all
the other misfortunes that will follow, inflicted by them on us and by us on
them, will, we believe, be surely laid by the Most High to your charge.

  To conclude, we are and shall ever be, as far as duty calls us, ready to
do your will in all things, as obedient sons to you as His Vicar; and to Him
as the Supreme King and Judge we commit the maintenance of our cause,
csating our cares upon Him and firmly trusting that He will inspire us with
courage and bring our enemies to nought.

  May the Most High preserve you to his Holy Church in holiness and health
and grant you length of days.

  Given at the monastery of Arbroath in Scotland on the sixth day of the
month of April in the year of grace thirteen hundred and twenty and the
fifteenth year of the reign of our King aforesaid.

Endorsed: Letter directed to our Lord the Supreme Pontiff by the community
of Scotland.

Additional names written on some of the seal tags: Alexander Lamberton,
Edward Keith, John Inchmartin, Thomas Menzies, John Durrant, Thomas Morham
(and one illegible).


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Grupos de notícias: us.military.army, alt.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.republican, us.military.navy
De: "c-bee1" <c-b...@insightbb.com>
Data: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 18:54:51 -0500
Local: Dom 1 out 2006 20:54
Assunto: Re: "Bush made no mention of the key reasons for the Taliban's resurgence: the diversion of U.S. troops to Iraq" Victory? -- November is Impeachment Referendum

"Pat Roller" <dontmai...@here.com> wrote in message

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> robbbinhoodzorr...@hotmail.com wrote in
> news:1159656038.784218.144590@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> > NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your
> > part to save the USA and mankind.

> [blah blah blah]

> And the relevance of this to Scottish culture is..?

  If it's not Scottish - IT'S CRAP!!!!!

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Data: 30 Sep 2006 15:59:00 -0700
Assunto: Republicans hope torture bill will win them political points on the campaign trail. <-- sadistical kooks, crooks, war-profiteering Traitors.. November is Impeachment Referendum

NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your
part to save the USA and mankind.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/29/193445/904

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:n0QU-xqpkkIJ:www.apfn.org/pdf/DI...
(the above link is the html version of a pdf file... please click on
the pdf link it brings up and download the form that lets you help in
getting Bush impeached... you need Adobe to read and print the pdf
form)

Note there are also clauses in the Constitution by which we can get
impeached all the corrupt judges that the impeached Bush has stacked
the courts with....

Do Not Give Up Hope.

-- Bush Crime Family Is the "Mountain of Corruption" on which all the
other molehills live(dating back to granpappy Prescott Bush's
patnership with Adolph Hitler) ... it is a symbiotic coupling, cut off
the head of the serpent and the culture of corruption surrounding and
supporting Bush Crime Family will fade. NOVEMBER IS A REFERENDUM ON
IMPEACHMENT OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your part to save mankind...
vote Democrat (or if the Green Candidate is winning vote Green)

Karl Rove exposed, thus destroying, a legitimate undercover CIA
operation that was protecting the U.S. and the world from black market
nuclear weapons... WHY? because they had proven that Bush was lying
about WMD's in Iraq before the 2004 elections. Karl Rove, one of the
main people who tells Bush what to say(everyone knows Bush is dumb as a
rock) is guilty of TREASON.

===========================================================

Republicans hope torture bill will win them political points on the
campaign trail.

>From The Associated Press, 9/29/06:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/29/AR200...

Congress Sends Bush Terror Tribunal Bill

By ANNE PLUMMER FLAHERTY
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON --

Congress sent President Bush a bill Friday that endorses his plan to
interrogate and prosecute terror suspects, legislation Republicans
hope will win them political points on the campaign trail.

Once Bush signs it, which he was expected to do very soon, the
military can begin prosecuting terror suspects.

Many Democrats opposed the legislation because they said it eliminated
rights of defendants considered fundanamental to American values, such
as a person's ability to protest court detention and the use of
coerced tesimony as evidence.

_______________________________________________________

Harry
(see all of Harry Hope's excellent posts as they break, put this link
in your browser, use it, this is a search on google groups, on the
author Harry Hope sorted by date... nothing fancy):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=-nIhF...

With history moving so fast these days you might also want to sort
Harry Hope's posts by "relevance" particulary if the lies and
misdirection that we are all being sujected to by the extensive Bush
Crime Family Propagand machine are confusing you. Using the "sort by
relevance" option has a way of letting you take in the big picture.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&enc_author=-nIhFBQAAACtBOU...


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