"Mac the Kid (aka Mac from Texas)" <awrlibr...@hotmail.net> wrote in message
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V-22:
VTOL Payload:    6000lbs (or 24 combat ready troops)
VTOL Military Range (6000lbs loaded)     430 NM
STOL  Payload    8300bls
STOL Military Range (8300lbs loaded)      220 NM
Ferry Range:        2100 NM
Normal Range:    1100 NM
Max Cruise speed (MCP), SL, kts (km/h) : 241-257 (446-476)
Service ceiling, ISA, ft (m) : 24,700 (7,529)

CH47D
Payload:        25,000lbs
Speed:        170kts
Max Range (empty)    1039
Endurance     4.5 hours
Operational (nomral) range: 390 NM  (CH-47F)

The V-22 will never replace the CH-47 that's for sure but when you need to
get troops onsite at more than twice the range of the CH-47 then the
military doesn't have a thing in place exept the V-22.

NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your
part to save the USA and mankind.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/29/193445/904

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:n0QU-xqpkkIJ:www.apfn.org/pdf/DI...
(the above link is the html version of a pdf file... please click on
the pdf link it brings up and download the form that lets you help in
getting Bush impeached... you need Adobe to read and print the pdf
form)

Note there are also clauses in the Constitution by which we can get
impeached all the corrupt judges that the impeached Bush has stacked
the courts with....

Do Not Give Up Hope.

-- Bush Crime Family Is the "Mountain of Corruption" on which all the
other molehills live(dating back to granpappy Prescott Bush's
patnership with Adolph Hitler) ... it is a symbiotic coupling, cut off
the head of the serpent and the culture of corruption surrounding and
supporting Bush Crime Family will fade. NOVEMBER IS A REFERENDUM ON
IMPEACHMENT OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your part to save mankind...
vote Democrat (or if the Green Candidate is winning vote Green)

Karl Rove exposed, thus destroying, a legitimate undercover CIA
operation that was protecting the U.S. and the world from black market
nuclear weapons... WHY? because they had proven that Bush was lying
about WMD's in Iraq before the 2004 elections. Karl Rove, one of the
main people who tells Bush what to say(everyone knows Bush is dumb as a
rock) is guilty of TREASON.

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Keith Olbermann Delivers One Hell Of a Commentary on Rumsfeld
   WATCH IT AT THE BELOW LINK:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/30/keith-olbermann-delivers-one...

Keith had some very choice words about Rumsfeld's "fascism" comments
tonight. Watch it, save it and share it.

Video - WMV  Video - QT

Olbermann delivered this commentary with fire and passion while
highlighting how Rumsfeld's comments echoes other times in our
world's history when anyone who questioned the administration was
coined as a traitor, unpatriotic, communist or any other colorful term.
Luckily we pulled out of those times and we will pull out of these
times.

Remember - Rumsfeld did not just call the Democrats out yesterday, he
called out a majority of this country. This wasn't only a partisan
attack, but more so an attack against the majority of Americans.

The transcript of Keith's comments tonight is available below the
fold.

The man who sees absolutes, where all other men see nuances and

shades of meaning, is either a prophet, or a quack.

Donald H. Rumsfeld is not a prophet.

We end the countdown where we began, our #1 story.

with a special comment on

Mr. Rumsfeld's remarkable speech to the American Legion

yesterday. It demands the deep analysis - and the sober contemplation -
of every

American.

For it did not merely serve to impugn the morality or

intelligence - indeed, the loyalty - of the majority of Americans who

oppose the transient occupants of the highest offices in the land;

Worse, still, it credits those same transient occupants - our

employees - with a total omniscience; a total omniscience which neither

common sense, nor this administration's track record at home or
abroad,

suggests they deserve.

Dissent and disagreement with government is the life's blood of

human freedom; And not merely because it is the first roadblock against
the

kind of tyranny the men Mr. Rumsfeld likes to think of as "his" troops
still

fight, this very evening, in Iraq.

It is also essential. Because just every once in awhile... it

is right - and the power to which it speaks, is wrong.

In a small irony, however, Mr. Rumsfeld's speechwriter was

adroit in invoking the memory of the appeasement of the Nazis.

For, in their time, there was another government faced with true

peril - with a growing evil - powerful and remorseless.

That government, like Mr. Rumsfeld's, had a monopoly on all the

facts. It, too, had the secret information. It alone had the true

picture of the threat. It too dismissed and insulted its critics in

terms like Mr. Rumsfeld's - questioning their intellect and their

morality.

That government was England's, in the 1930's.

It knew Hitler posed no true threat to Europe, let alone to

England.

It knew Germany was not re-arming, in violation of all

treaties and accords.

It knew that the hard evidence it had received, which

contradicted it's own policies, it's own conclusions - it's own
omniscience - needed to be

dismissed.

The English government of Neville Chamberlain already knew

the truth.

Most relevant of all - it "knew" that its staunchest critics

needed to be marginalized and isolated. In fact, it portrayed the
foremost

of them as a blood-thirsty war-monger who was, if not truly senile - at

best morally or intellectually confused.

That critic's name... was Winston Churchill.

Sadly, we have no Winston Churchills evident among us this

evening. We have only Donald Rumsfelds, demonizing disagreement, the
way

Neville Chamberlain demonized Winston Churchill.

History - and 163 million pounds of Luftwaffe bombs over England

- had taught us that all Mr. Chamberlain had was his certainty - and
his own

confusion. A confusion that suggested that the office can not only make
the

man, but that the office can also make the facts.

Thus did Mr. Rumsfeld make an apt historical analogy

excepting the fact that he has the battery plugged in backwards.

His government, absolute and exclusive in its knowledge, is not the

modern version of the one which stood up to the Nazis. It is the modern

version of the government... of Neville Chamberlain.

But back to today's Omniscient Ones.

That about which Mr. Rumsfeld is confused is simply this:

This is a Democracy. Still. Sometimes just barely. And as such,

all voices count - not just his. Had he or his president perhaps

proven any of their prior claims of omniscience - about Osama Bin

Laden's plans five years ago - about Saddam Hussein's weapons four
years ago

- about Hurricane Katrina's impact one year ago - we all might be
able to

swallow hard, and accept their omniscience as a bearable, even useful

recipe, of fact, plus ego.

But, to date, this government has proved little besides its own

arrogance, and its own hubris.

Mr. Rumsfeld is also personally confused, morally or

intellectually, about his own standing in this matter. From Iraq to

Katrina, to flu vaccine shortages, to the entire "Fog of Fear" which
continues to envelope this

nation - he, Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney, and their cronies, have -
inadvertently

or intentionally - profited and benefited, both personally, and
politically.

And yet he can stand up in public, and question the morality and

the intellect of those of us who dare ask just for the receipt for the

Emporer's New Clothes.

In what country was Mr. Rumsfeld raised?

As a child, of whose heroism did he read?

On what side of the battle for freedom did he dream one day

to fight?

With what country has he confused... the United States of

America?

-

The confusion we - as its citizens - must now address, is

stark and forbidding. But variations of it have faced our forefathers,
when

men like Nixon and McCarthy and Curtis LeMay have darkened our skies
and

obscured our flag. Note - with hope in your heart - that those earlier

Americans always found their way to the light and we can too.

The confusion is about whether this Secretary of Defense, and

this Administration, are in fact now accomplishing what they claim the

terrorists seek: The destruction of our freedoms, the very ones for

which the same veterans Mr. Rumsfeld addressed yesterday in Salt Lake
City,

so valiantly fought.

-

And about Mr. Rumsfeld's other main assertion, that this country

faces a "new type of fascism."

As he was correct to remind us how a government that knew

everything could get everything wrong, so too was he right when he

said that - though probably not in the way he thought he meant it.

This country faces a new type of fascism - indeed.

-

Although I presumptuously use his sign-off each night, in feeble

tribute... I have utterly no claim to the words of the exemplary
journalist

Edward R. Murrow.

But never in the trial of a thousand years of writing could

come close to matching how he phrased a warning to an earlier
generation of

us, at a time when other politicians thought they (and they alone) knew

everything, and branded those who disagreed, "confused" or "immoral."

Thus forgive me for reading Murrow in full:

"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty," he said, in 1954.

"We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that
conviction

depends upon evidence and due process of law.

We will not walk in fear - one, of another. We will not be

driven by fear into an age of un-reason, if we dig deep in our history

and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful
men;

Not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to

defend causes that were - for the moment - unpopular."

And so, good night, and good luck.

Scottsdale school rape suspect in U.S. illegally  

By Mike Sakal and Amanda Keim
Tribune
August 31, 2006

A custodian at Saguaro High School accused of raping a 14-year-old girl
on the Scottsdale campus is an illegal immigrant from Mexico and
shouldn’t have been eligible to work in the United States, an
immigration official said Wednesday

Russell Ahr, a spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement,
said the paperwork that Roberto Lemus-Retana provided to ABM Janitorial
Services, the company that contracts with the Scottsdale Unified School
District, is counterfeit.

Or, there is a possibility Lemus-Retana was using someone else’s name
and Social Security number, Ahr said.

The school district wasn’t aware Lemus-Retana was an illegal immigrant
until speaking with the Tribune on Wednesday evening, said Dave
Peterson, the district’s chief financial officer.

However, the district had already discussed severing ties with ABM,
Peterson said. The district is waiting for investigations to be
complete before making any decisions about its relationship with the
company.

Since the incident, the district has run its own background check on
Lemus-Retana’s Social Security number, and asked Scottsdale police to
do the same, Peterson said. But neither the district’s nor the police’s
background check indicated he was in the country illegally, Peterson
said.

The district had contacted ICE to look into Lemus-Retana’s immigration
status, before the Tribune called, Peterson said.

Lemus-Retana had cleared a background check on the state level and had
provided all the required paperwork to work at ABM, where he was hired
July 31, according to Mark Safsten, vice president of safety and risk
management for ABM. Safsten also said Lemus-Retana provided his past
employment history.

Safsten said Wednesday he couldn’t comment on the latest development
involving Lemus-Retana.

“Anyone can go into a swap market and get certified documents,” Ahr
said. “Someone gave him a Social Security number, loaned him one, he
made one up or he went to the flea market and bought one.”

Lemus-Retana was charged Wednesday with seven felony counts of sexual
assaultrelated offenses with a minor and is being held without bail in
the Maricopa County Fourth Avenue Jail in Phoenix.

The charges stem from his arrest about 5:30 p.m. Friday at Saguaro High
School. Police said the arrest came after the freshman girl told them
Lemus-Retana made unwanted advances to her in a locked bathroom and
forced her to have sex in a computer classroom.

Lemus-Retana admitted to having sex with the girl, but said it was
consensual and she told him she was 17, according to a court document.

The incident, which has shaken students at the school, has caused
district administrators to rethink security measures. For instance,
custodians are now required to work in pairs.

Lemus-Retana had been arrested in Mohave County on suspicion of driving
under the influence May 14, and supplied a driver’s license at the
time. He was removed by U.S. Border Patrol agents four days later from
that county’s jail to be returned to Mexico, Ahr said. The ICE
spokesman could not confirm that Lemus-Retana left the United States.

Lemus-Retana didn’t have a Social Security number and was not a U.S.
citizen when he was arrested May 14, and he shouldn’t have had a valid
one when he was hired by ABM, Ahr said.

Peterson said the school district became aware of the DUI arrest this
week, but a misdemeanor DUI would not have prevented Lemus-Retana from
working in the district.

The district has met with ABM multiple times since Friday and will meet
with them again today, Peterson said.

Before the incident, ABM merely had to certify they had completed
background checks on employees, Peterson said. That practice is already
changing.

“We are requiring an independent, outside agency verify their results
and send them directly to us,” Peterson said.

While the district can’t dictate which company ABM uses to verify the
background checks, the district will have to approve which company is
picked, Peterson said.

ABM also is required to run new background checks on each of its
approximately 130 employees working in the Scottsdale district and have
those background checks independently verified by Sept. 8, Peterson
said.

It isn’t known at this time how long Lemus-Retana has been in the
United States, but Scottsdale police officer David Pubins said in an
e-mail to the Tribune this week that Lemus-Retana had committed some
offenses as a juvenile.

Phoenix Municipal Court records revealed that Lemus-Retana had failed
to appear in court for driving without a valid driver’s license or
valid registration when he was 15 years old in March 1996.

The school district has already implemented new security measures at
all of its high schools, including adjusting hours of security guards
and administrators so they are on campus from 6:30 a.m. until 5:30
p.m., Peterson said.

The district also is looking at additional lighting and video
surveillance at the campuses, he added.

However, the district probably won’t require construction workers on
campus to go through background checks, Peterson said.

Background checks aren’t feasible since so many construction workers
and subcontractors are involved in campus projects, Peterson said.

NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your
part to save the USA and mankind.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/29/193445/904

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:n0QU-xqpkkIJ:www.apfn.org/pdf/DI...
(the above link is the html version of a pdf file... please click on
the pdf link it brings up and download the form that lets you help in
getting Bush impeached... you need Adobe to read and print the pdf
form)

Note there are also clauses in the Constitution by which we can get
impeached all the corrupt judges that the impeached Bush has stacked
the courts with....

Do Not Give Up Hope.

-- Bush Crime Family Is the "Mountain of Corruption" on which all the
other molehills live(dating back to granpappy Prescott Bush's
patnership with Adolph Hitler) ... it is a symbiotic coupling, cut off
the head of the serpent and the culture of corruption surrounding and
supporting Bush Crime Family will fade. NOVEMBER IS A REFERENDUM ON
IMPEACHMENT OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your part to save mankind...
vote Democrat (or if the Green Candidate is winning vote Green)

Karl Rove exposed, thus destroying, a legitimate undercover CIA
operation that was protecting the U.S. and the world from black market
nuclear weapons... WHY? because they had proven that Bush was lying
about WMD's in Iraq before the 2004 elections. Karl Rove, one of the
main people who tells Bush what to say(everyone knows Bush is dumb as a
rock) is guilty of TREASON.

=============================================

War profiteers and Bush's wars

The study surveys all publicly held U.S. corporations among the top
100 defence contractors that had at least 10 percent of revenues in
defence.

It found that the top 34 CEOs combined have earned almost a billion
dollars since the 9/11 attacks on the United States.

This would have been enough money to employ and support more than a
million Iraqis for a year to rebuild their country.

The defence executives' average compensation jumped from 3.6 million
during the pre-9/11 period of 1998-2001 to 7.2 million dollars during
the post-9/11 period of 2002-2005.

Among other startling facts revealed in the report is that in 2005
alone, defence industry CEOs garnered 44 times more pay than military
generals with 20 years experience, and 308 times more than Army
privates.

The report names United Technologies CEO George David as the winner of
the top spot in executive profits after the Iraq war with more than
200 million dollars in pay since 9/11, despite investigations into the
quality of the company's Black Hawk helicopters.

Health Net's CEO Jay Gellert secured the biggest personal pay raise
after 9/11, a gigantic 1,134 percent leap over the preceding four
years.

"The company owes its earnings growth to American taxpayers, who may
not realize they pick up a hefty share of cost overruns in the
privatized military health care system," said the report.

Halliburton CEO David Lesar made a modest 26.6 million dollars last
year, even though his company has been criticised for its links to
U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney.

"While Halliburton's future Iraq work is uncertain, Lesar will enjoy
the nearly 50 million dollars he has made since the 'War on Terror'
began," the report says.

Oil company chief executives are also making three times the pay of
CEOs in comparably sized businesses.

In 2005, the top 15 U.S. oil industry CEOs got a 50 percent raise over
2004.

They now average 32.7 million dollars, compared with11.6 million
dollars for all CEOs of large U.S. firms, the report finds.

The top three highest-paid U.S. oil chiefs in 2005 were William
Greehey of Valero Energy at 95.2 million dollars, followed by Ray R.
Irani of Occidental Petroleum at 84 million dollars and Lee Raymond,
the outgoing CEO of ExxonMobil, at 69.7 million dollars.

The lowest paid was Chad Deaton, CEO of Baker Hughes, at 6.6 million
dollars.

"The average construction worker at an energy company would have to
work 4,279 years to equal what Greehey collected last year," the
report noted.

Executive pay at U.S.-based oil companies also far outpaced pay at oil
companies based outside the United States, says the report.

International oil giants BP and Royal Dutch Shell, the second and the
third largest internationally, paid their top executives only
one-eighth what their U.S. counterparts received -- 5.6 and 4.1
million dollars in 2005, respectively.

Both companies operate in the same global marketplace as their
U.S.-based competitors.

Since 1990, the overall CEO-worker pay gap in the United States has
grown from 107-to-1 to last year's 411-to-1, said the report

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0831-01.htm

Published on Thursday, August 31, 2006 by the Inter Press Service

Executives Cash In on War and Oil Bonanza

by Emad Mekay

WASHINGTON -

Top oil and defence industry executives in the United States are
raking in record personal profits on the backs of the U.S. wars
following the terror attacks of Sep. 11, 2001 and sky-high oil prices,
two think-tanks said Wednesday.

"CEOs (chief executive officers) in the defense and oil industries
have been able to translate war and rising oil prices into personal
jackpots," says the new report "Executive Excess 2006," a 60-page
study by the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington and the
Boston-based United for a Fair Economy.

The report's authors say U.S. taxpayers are funding much of this
bonanza and faulted U.S. political and congressional leaders for not
exercising better and more thorough oversight.

"Americans across the political spectrum should be outraged by the
sight of executives cashing in on war windfalls," says report
co-author Sarah Anderson.

____________________________________________________

2,641 American troops are dead, 19,773 have been wounded, tens of
thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead and wounded.

Harry
(see all of Harry Hope's excellent posts as they break, put this link
in your browser, use it, this is a search on google groups, on the
author Harry Hope sorted by date... nothing fancy):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=-nIhF...

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug06/Petras29.htm

audio/video link for excellent interview with James Petras about the
power/influence of the pro-Israel lobby in the USA:

http://easylink.playstream.com/currentissues/petras.wvx

audio/video link for interview with Paul Craig Roberts:

http://easylink.playstream.com/currentissues/roberts.wvx

Iran: The Next War:

How do you explain these gems? Why should ANYONE believe a damn thing
you post when you are so consistently WRONG?

From:           dontcowerfromthetr...@yahoo.com - view profile
Date:           Sat, Aug 12 2006 3:33 pm

You're gonna be cowering from the truth when it doesn't happen and this

piece of idiocy is dragged out every time you copy someone else's essay

(are you capable of indepedent thought and stringing a dozen or so
words into a coherent sentence) to demonstrate your cretinhood....

RESNIP

He's GOTTA be right eventually, don't he??

From:           dontcowerfromthetruth - view profile
Date:           Fri, Jun 2 2006 1:15 pm

Former CIA Analyst Says Iran Strike Set For June Or July

Etc, etc, etc

http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/09/reviews-of-without-pr...

http://tinyurl.com/o4j57

SCANDAL: 9/11 Commissioners Bowed to Pressure to Suppress Main Motive
for the 9/11 Attacks.

http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=9630

http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com