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Caldwell turns over command of Submarine Development Squadron
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{EXCERPT} The Dolphin, CT - Mar 31, 2005

Capt. James F. Caldwell, Jr. turned over command of Submarine
Development Squadron TWELVE (COMSUBDEVRON 12) to Capt. John M.
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Speech: Naval Operations  
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Clark, Vernon, Chief, U.S. Navy, Operations McNeill, Sheila,
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Admiral Clark spoke about the future of the Navy, the Navy role in
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acquisition, maritime strategy, uses of technology and intelligence,
and other readiness issues. The event was part of a conference titled
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Flag Officer Announcements  
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Flag Officer Announcements
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{EXCERPT} NEWS RELEASE from the United States Department of Defense

No. 311-05 IMMEDIATE RELEASE Apr 01, 2005 Media Contact: (703)697-5131
Public/Industry Contact: (703)428-0711

Flag Officer Announcements

_ _ Secretary of Defense Donald R. Rumsfeld announced today that the
President has made the following nominations:

Naval Reserve Captain Julius S. Caesar has been nominated for
appointment to the rank of rear admiral (lower half) while serving as
Director, Navy Reserve Area Air Defense Coordinator, Atlantic,
Norfolk, Va.

Naval Reserve Captain William P. Loeffler has been nominated for
appointment to the rank of rear admiral (lower half) while serving as
Commanding Officer, Navy Reserve Detachment 802, SIXTH Fleet, Atlanta,
Ga.

Naval Reserve Captain Joseph L. Metcalf has been nominated for
appointment to the rank of rear admiral (lower half) while serving as
Commanding Officer, Navy Reserve Detachment 106, OPNAV N76,
Washington, D.C.

Naval Reserve Captain Garland P. Wright Jr. has been nominated for
appointment to the rank of rear admiral (lower half) while serving as
Operations Officer and Exercise Planner, Navy Reserve Area Air Defense
Coordinator, Pacific, San Diego, Calif.
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Navy Standing Up Provisional Unit to Provide Guantanamo Guards  
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Navy Standing Up Provisional Unit to Provide Guantanamo Guards
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{EXCERPT} By Kathleen T. Rhem American Forces Press Service

NAVAL STATION GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba, April 1, 2005 - For the next 18
months to two years, the Navy will be providing a large chunk of the
guards at the U.S. enemy combatant detention facility here.

“Because it’s a joint mission, the Joint Staff decided it was the
Navy’s turn to source some of the guard-force requirements,” said Navy
Capt. Lewis Nygard, officer in charge of the Navy provisional guard
force here. “So the Navy said, ‘Aye, aye,’ and marched off and said,
‘We’ll build this provisional guard force and man the portion of the
mission down here.’”

The Navy guards here are members of the master-at-arms career field.
Navy masters-at-arms specialize in law enforcement, security, force
protection, and correctional custody. Nygard explained the detainee
mission at Guantanamo Bay has subtle differences from the MAs’ normal
day-to-day duties.

“It’s not a correctional job in which we’re trying to rehabilitate a
sailor who has gone wrong and made a mistake and is being disciplined
for that mistake,” Nygard said. “We’re here for the safe and humane
treatment of detainees for the period in which we’re assigned the
mission.”

Sailors in the provisional guard force typically are deployed here for
six months. Nygard said the sailors arriving here now likely will be
followed by at least two more rotations of other sailors.

The Navy doesn’t have deployable units of master-at-arms. Sailors in
this specialty generally are assigned to bases and ships in relatively
small numbers. The service is filling the requirement for more than
600 sailors on this mission by taking individual sailors and small
groups from units throughout the world.

“Those sailors then are coming from commands all over the world, from
shore stations in Italy to England to Japan to Guam, and ships from
both coasts and both fleets,” Nygard said.

“It is a large portion of the master-at-arms field,” he added. “But
the Navy’s decided that they can commit those forces to the mission
basically by taking onesies, twosies, up to five and six from
different forces.”

The selected sailors were sent to Naval Air Station Jacksonville,
Fla., where they formed into five companies, and performed
predeployment activities and started their training.

“Since we don’t have companies of MAs sitting around ready to deploy,
we needed to form something that fit the mission,” Nygard said.

From Jacksonville, the companies went to Fort Lewis, an Army base in
Washington state, for further training in detention operations.

The captain explained the sailors were trained using a “crawl, walk,
run” philosophy. They first learned individual tasks they would need,
then worked on putting them together into a unit mission, and finally
ran through “situational training exercises,” in which they practiced
dealing with scenarios possible in the detention facility.

A sailor here who recently completed the training at Fort Lewis said
the situational training exercise was the most interesting thing he’s
experienced in his year in the Navy.

“I’ve never experienced anything like that before,” said Seaman Andrew
Ellenberger. “We had two days of some very, very intense training to
learn how to deal with the different stresses that we may encounter
down here.”

Ellenberger said the first day of the STX was frightening. “I was
like, ‘Oh my God, what did I sign up for?’ But after I talked to a few
people that had already been down here, they said that (scenario
portrayed potentially the) absolute worst day down here. It probably
will never happen,” he said.

Nygard said the intense training was valuable “in getting the sailors
into the right mindset for what they needed to come down here for.”

To date, three companies of Navy guards have assumed their duties
“inside the wire” at Guantanamo Bay. The two remaining companies are
completing their training at Fort Lewis and preparing to deploy.
Nygard said the entire provisional force will have assumed their
duties here by mid-April.

He also had a message for the sailors’ families and loved ones. “Your
sailors are performing marvelously down here, and they’re doing what
the country has asked them to do,” he said. “And to a man or woman,
they’re proud to be serving the country.”

Related Sites:

Joint Task Force Guantanamo [
http://www.jtfgtmo.southcom.mil/

Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, Cuba [
http://www.nsgtmo.navy.mil/

Related Articles:

Building Military Police Unit From Scratch No Easy Task [
http://www.dod.mil/news/Mar2005/20050324_301.html

Military Police Unit Stands Up at Guantanamo Bay [
http://www.dod.mil/news/Mar2005/20050322_270.html

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USS San Francisco Heroes and Villains  
1.  Paul Clay  
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I have never seen such an inept analysis and this serves as an example of
why the Internet provides an avenue for an analysis by everyone with a
keyboard.

"Anyone who knows anything about nuclear submarines, and their crews"

My credentials -
STSSN(SS)
QM2(SS)
YNC(SS) - Retired

"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message

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"Paul Clay" <paulclay@charter*nospam*.net> wrote in message

news:mcE3e.3929$3M1.315@fe03.lga...

> I have never seen such an inept analysis and this serves as an example of
> why the Internet provides an avenue for an analysis by everyone with a
> keyboard.

> "Anyone who knows anything about nuclear submarines, and their crews"

> My credentials -
> STSSN(SS)
> QM2(SS)
> YNC(SS) - Retired

Well, what DO you know, and what makes Jim Dunnigan's op-ed piece so
"inept"?  Do tell us.  We're breathless with anticipation

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3.  Ogden Johnson III  
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"slick_sleeve" <hell_no_we_STILL_wo...@go.net> wrote:
>"Paul Clay" <paulclay@charter*nospam*.net> wrote in message
>news:mcE3e.3929$3M1.315@fe03.lga...
>> I have never seen such an inept analysis and this serves as an example of
>> why the Internet provides an avenue for an analysis by everyone with a
>> keyboard.

>> "Anyone who knows anything about nuclear submarines, and their crews"

>> My credentials -
>> STSSN(SS)
>> QM2(SS)
>> YNC(SS) - Retired
>Well, what DO you know, and what makes Jim Dunnigan's op-ed piece so
>"inept"?  Do tell us.  We're breathless with anticipation

I think it was the "The non-judicial punishment hurts, but  does
not destroy, the career of a submariner." statement that may have
set Paul off.

The XO and Nav better be planning their retirement, and probably
will never see submarine service again.  Nor will the Senior
Chief ever make Master Chief, and he was fired from the submarine
service.  He is at his terminal rank.  I don't know whether E-8
vests one for a full 30, somehow 26-ish is laying back there in
what I currently fantasize is a memory.  While the others may
make it, in the one case back, to First Class, they'll never get
a Chief's hat.  In fact, the two busted to PO3 may not ever get a
chance to reenlist and make it back to PO2.  The former PO1, as a
PO2 retains his "vestment" [unless they've changed that, too, in
the past few years] to serve until he reaches 20 years unless an
Enlistment Performance Evaluation Board refuses any reenlistment
he needs to finish his 20.

I think that qualifies as Jim Dunnigan being a little "inept" in
some of his opinions.  NJPs can "destroy careers", when you're on
a second or third enlistment and counting on a career.
--
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4.  Fred J. McCall  
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Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:

:*The non-judicial punishment hurts, but does not destroy, the career of a
:submariner. This is because the navy has a hard time recruiting qualified
:people for this kind of work.*  That's right, Captain:  Give 'em a tap on
:the wrist, lest they not re-up and leave for the private sector in droves.

The careers of the officers involved in this are probably pretty much
done.  It is unlikely that anyone with such a reprimand in their
record will ever be given a command.  

The Service tends to be more forgiving of such screw ups by enlisted
personnel.

:USS San Francisco Heroes and Villains
:
:James Dunnigan
:
:The lack of courts martial indicates that the navy didn't feel it had strong
:enough evidence for that approach, which is more like a jury trial, and
:demands more compelling evidence.

Preposterous.  It indicates no such thing.  Did anyone request a
Court?  They do have that option (although such requests can be
refused in this case).

What it more likely indicates is that it was obvious to the recipients
that a Court would penalize them much more severely based on the
evidence than anything they would get out of a non-judicial
proceeding.  Based on that, everyone decided to take their lumps and
move on.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
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5.  sfb  
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Don't ignore that as soon as courts martial action starts people lawyer
up and shut up. For the safety and combat effectiveness of the force,
the Navy needs to know exactly what went wrong and why. Sometimes the
greater good necessitates obtaining lessons learned at the expense of
more serious penalties.


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Marine DIs beat, drown 'maggot' and couldn't care less  
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In article <5fa2958cf8ddc19c3ec7a88bd5f0d...@dizum.com>,
nob...@dizum.com says...

>Jarheads kill another recruit at Parris Island, and that video footage shows
>a DI punching the victim prior to his death.  It was shown on MSNBC and
>probably every NBC affiliate in the country.  The gyrines' reactions:
>Something along the lines of "tough luck, the little pussy faggot couldn't
>take it, ha, ha," like it was rip-roaring hilarious. Small wonder the USMC
>can't make its enlistment quota anymore.  When the draft is reinstated, you
>just watch. At induction centers the draftees will be lined up against a
>wall and a gunny will select every sixth man to go with him, just like
>during 'Nam.

When I was in the Marines, whenever there was some injury at Parris Island,
Enlistment went up. Quotas just about filled themselves.

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