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1.  `G' `O' `D' `S' __`C' `R' `E' `A' `T' `O' `R'  
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De: `G' `O' `D' `S' __`C' `R' `E' `A' `T' `O' `R' <Really_...@Go.Com>
Data: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 07:26:07 GMT
Local: Ter 1 jun 2004 04:26
Assunto: Re: ALL RELIGIONS MUST BE CRIMINALIZED
Midjis wrote:
> "<-J-C->" <jaa_c...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>> The numbers of people killed under the Stalinist regime are
>>> staggering, however you look at it.

>>   I did, they were CRIMINALS...

> Then it is fortunate we do not have to look for you to administer our
> justice system.  You appear incapable of rational thought.

........
......
.....

    Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive shit!)

     Religious Criminals..., Religious Terrorist...
     Whats the difference ?

        Both are like Zombie monsters and *MUST* be... Neutralized.

    The Compassionate Conservative method of "Neutralization" is;
     Have them destroy each other ;-)

      That is the current U.S. tactic... Will it work on
      the Iraq1 Shites, Kurds and Sunis Islamics... ??

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                   GOD'S  CREATOR  ( My only sin... )

    Wise men study the unknown, and boldly seeks answers !
    Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...

   Today's Terrorists News:
   http://www.antiwar.com/

   Today's U.S. Terrorists:
   http://www.dbr.nu/noin/rogues.html


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2.  `G' `O' `D' `S' __`C' `R' `E' `A' `T' `O' `R'  
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De: `G' `O' `D' `S' __`C' `R' `E' `A' `T' `O' `R' <Really_...@Go.Com>
Data: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 02:52:36 GMT
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Assunto: Re: ALL RELIGIONS MUST BE CRIMINALIZED

    Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive shit!)

     Any partially human, zombie like monster, that is
     detrimental to the well being of humanity.

     Examples; G.W. Bush, Ariel Sharon, Tony Blair...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                   GOD'S  CREATOR  ( My only sin... )

    Wise men study the unknown, and boldly seeks answers !
    Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...

   Today's Terrorists News:
   http://www.antiwar.com/

   Today's U.S. Terrorists:
   http://www.dbr.nu/noin/rogues.html


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3.  Saul_Sabia  
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De: saul_sa...@yahoo.com (Saul_Sabia)
Data: 2 Jun 2004 12:56:16 -0700
Local: Qua 2 jun 2004 16:56
Assunto: Re: ALL RELIGIONS MUST BE CRIMINALIZED
`G' `O' `D' `S' __`C' `R' `E' `A' `T' `O' `R' <Really_...@Go.Com> wrote in message <news:Uhbvc.18593$Tn6.3380@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

> Midjis wrote:
> > `G' `O' `D' `S' __`C' `R' `E' `A' `T' `O' `R' <Really_...@Go.Com> wrote:
> > That depends on how you are defining 'criminal'.  In the days before 9/11,
> > Britain considered terrorism a crime rather than a military action.  So in
> > my mind, terrorists are criminals, but of course not all criminals are
> > terrorists.

> > What do YOU consider the definition of 'criminal' here?

>      Any partially human, zombie like monster, that is
>      detrimental to the well being of humanity.

>      Examples; G.W. Bush, Ariel Sharon, Tony Blair...

By whose standards?

Seems like any of these people are a part of humanity just as much as the
rest of us, they just stand on the opposite political spectrum than you
do.
Oh, so of course that makes them criminals, to be hated!

Does your definition include those with mental illness, those who can't
function well outside of a psychiatric ward or hospital? Many of these
people can't speak coherently, or refrain from violent outbursts....
wouldn't they be criminals, too? I mean, all they do is use up our hard-
earned tax money, they are such a drain on the rest of us!

... pfff ....

Better think about how you define your words a little better.

Saul Sabia
saul_sa...@yahoo.com


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Pat Tillman killed by US heroes' friendly fire  
1.  sanjian  
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De: "sanjian" <haibane_please_dont_spam_me_r...@yahoo.com>
Data: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:48:43 -0400
Local: Ter 1 jun 2004 11:48
Assunto: Re: Pat Tillman killed by US heroes' friendly fire

Pat "Bearkiller" Hines wrote:
> sanjian wrote:
>>> Savage is one of the most venomous right-wing socialists on radio
>>> today.

>> Right-wing socialist?  Can you explain how you came about that
>> little gem?

> Hmmm, you don't know?  Figures.  I'll venture a short version of the
> explanation, you'll have to learn the full details on your own.

> The modern meaning of right-wing versus left-wing are a mythology created
> almost single-handedly by the Soviet Union and it's operatives in the

The "right wing" and "left wing" ideals are far older than that, going back
to 19th century european parliments.  If you're as wise as you seem to
think, surely you knew that, and were just testing me.

> West, particularly in America.  They did that in order to position
> themselves at the other end of a political spectrum, of their own
> creation, from the National Socialists in Germany.  The National

That much you got right.  National Socialism, Maxist Communisim, Fascisim...
while they pay lip service to different ideals, they're all collectivist
with a heavy-handed central government.  They're all cut from the same
cloth.  Properly, fascists and nazis belong on the far left, not the right.

> Socialists were but a competing form of socialism, but the Soviets

I often think that it's by design that we retain the term "Nazi."  I even
wonder if kids today are even taught what it's abbeviated from.

> couldn't allow that truth to stand, so they launched
> a successful campaign, aided by communist in the F. D. Roosevelt
> Regime (Alger Hiss wasn't the only one, Harry Hopkins was another of
> many), the Soviets built
> a monumental myth that International Communists were on one end of
> the political spectrum and the National Socialists were on the other
> end.  That enabled Roosevelt to enter into an alliance with the most
> horrendous tyrant to ever
> exist against what may have been only the third or fourth worst
> tyrant.

Second and third, respectively.  I believe that the final numbers (so far)
put Mao above Stalin now days.  Granted, I'm sure both parties have more
"unaccounted for" than they're willing to say.

> In actual fact, the National Socialists, as with all fascists, are at or
near
> the same end of the political spectrum as are all socialists.  Both the
> Democrats and Republicans are just a short distance behind the
> fascists.

It's that last part that I take issue with.  You still have a strong anchor
in the Republican party trying to take back what rightfully belongs to us.
It's people like Sen. John Kyl and Congressman Jeff Flake who I support in
trying to keep the Republicans from falling into that pit.  Yet the very
rank and file we need to keep our party are leaving us.  You say we're
abandoning our principles?  That's not the case.  It's that you are
undercutting our conservative/libertarian base by leaving us to the
Democrats who have chewed through their own party and are now looking for
new meat.

It's all nice and cynical to say that the Republicans and Democrats are the
same.  Sounds nice and jaded, makes you sound cool in front of your
pseudo-intellectual friends, but that's just not the case.

> At the approximate middle of the political spectrum are found various
> types of libertarians and at the far opposite end from Communists,
> fascists, and the two large American political parties are the
> anarchists, those that want no government.

The libertarians are hardly the middle.  They are on the far right, and God
bless them for it.  It seems you had the right concept with your idea, but
you had the spectrum distorted.  Still, even by your own admission, you
can't be a right-wing socialist.  Socialisim and anarchy are mutally
exclusive, and Savage is neither.

> Again, that's a mere outline of the facts, you should be able to find
> a more fulsome explanation online or in your local library.

If you understand the facts that well, I must wonder how you can come up
with calling Savage a right-wing socialist.

>>>> The OP mocked Pat Tillman for dying in defence of his country.

>>> Let's get something straight right now, Tillman did not die
>>> defending

>> You can take that "Let's get something straight right now" and cram it up
>> your kiester.  It's clear that you're the one who doesn't have things
straight.

> Clearly I do.

And yet you don't exhibit functional mastery of the information.

>>> his country at all.  Tillman died because he was duped into
>>> believing
>>> that the USG was going after those that attacked New York in 2001,

>> Just like all those soldiers in WWII who were duped into thinking
>> that the government was going after those who attacked Pearl Harbor?

> That's right, as my father informed me many times.  That's my father
> with 65 combat missions and the Distinguished Flying Cross.

You father fought in WWII, as did my grandfathers.  What's your point?

>>  Maybe you
>> weren't paying attention.  This is a global war on terrorism, not
>> just Al Queda.

> Now that is absurd.  There is no global war on terrorism, never was,
> and never will be.  That's just a failing attempt by those that
> profit from wars, together with those that gain power during wars, to
> replace the Cold War with something else.  The beauty of a "War on

How nice and cynical.  Now, do you have anything to back it up, or are you
just wanting to look cool?

> Terrorism" is that since there's no country or political ideology to
> fail or go bankrupt, the war will never have to end like
> the Cold War suddenly did.  It's made to order for war profiteers.

Have you been paying attention these last few decades?  These people have
been screwing around with us since before the Reagan era.  Ronald Reagan
made a mistake in listening to congress and backing down.  Clinton didn't
learn from him and did the same.  At least Bush decided to stop the game.
You can blather on about there being no war on terrorism, but the terrorists
sure as hell know they've got one against us.

> The real problem for these warmongers is that the power of
> information is no longer controlled totally by government.  And while
> there will be increasing attempts to intimidate those that, like me,
> shout out the truth as often and in
> as many places as possible, those attempts will fail.

We're not trying to intimaidate you, we're throwing the bullshit flag.
That's what happens when you spout crap, you get called on it.  If that's
too intimidating for you, then maybe you should stick to kindergarteners.

>>  We've decided that we're not going to play this shell game anymore.

> The "we" you're so blatantly bandying about is less than one half the
> American citizenry and fewer of them all the time.  Like all old
> socialist "ideas" your "we" gets smaller and smaller everyday.

Are you the same guy who said the US was against the war in Iraq at the very
same time that and ABC (ie, left-leaning outlet) poll showed 75% supported
it?  Maybe your supporters count twice?

You guys are so quick to call them war crimes.  Maybe that's why I can't
stop laughing at you.  "War Crimes" are not defined as "things we don't
like."  Learn to live with it.

> That makes Bush, and many in his regime, guilty of more war crimes
> than was Clinton.

Would you prefer if we just sit back and wait for the next attack?  And the
one after that?

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Meeting on Depleted Uranium  
1.  Greg Butterfield  
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De: gr...@wwpublish.com (Greg Butterfield)
Data: 1 Jun 2004 07:56:44 -0700
Local: Ter 1 jun 2004 11:56
Assunto: Meeting on Depleted Uranium
Audience packs New York meeting
'Depleted uranium: Pentagon poison'

By Minnie Bruce Pratt
New York

Deadly radioactivity is drifting in the sands and fertile fields of
Iraq, in rain falling in Europe, in breezes that toss palm trees in
Vieques, Puerto Rico, in the water of South Korea--the toxic debris of
exploded U.S. depleted uranium (DU) shells.

The International Action Center continued its historic exposé of this
terrible danger with a forum in New York City on May 25, "Poison
Dust--Another U.S. War Crime: the Use of Radioactive Weapons in the
Gulf."

DU is a byproduct of the process used to make nuclear bombs and
reactor fuel. Because this metal is 1.8 times denser than lead and
burns on impact with steel, bullets and shells made of DU can cut
through tank armor like butter.

U.S. tanks, Bradley fighting machines, A-10 attack jets and "Apache"
helicopters routinely fire DU rounds. When a DU shell hits a target,
as much as 70 percent burns on impact, releasing invisible and
insoluble uranium oxide, a radioactive dust that people inhale and
ingest.

'Metal of Dishonor'

To the political hip-hop of Movement in Motion arts collective
chanting "Drop beats, not bombs," 200 people crowded the United
Nations Church Center for the meeting on "Poison Dust." The meeting
was co-chaired by Naomi Santos of Move ment in Motion and IAC
co-director Sara Flounders.

Flounders alerted the gathering that over half of the 700,000 veterans
of the first U.S. invasion of Iraq in 1991 have the chronic illness
dubbed "Gulf War Syndrome."

Millions of Iraqis died of preventable diseases from the obliteration
of water and health systems by bombing and 12 years of sanctions
starting in 1990. More recently, Iraqi doctors began to note an
ominous increase in cancer and diseases of the immune systems.

Sharon Eolis, a health care worker who traveled to Iraq in 1998 and
2000, confirmed that both U.S. documents and independent scientists
strongly link this pattern of sickness and death to DU.

IAC founder and former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark first raised
the issue of DU shortly after the 1991 Gulf War. The IAC has continued
to inform the public through its DU Education Project with such
publications as "Metal of Dishonor: How the Pentagon Radiates Soldiers
and Civilians with DU Weapons."

The project also challenged U.S. government denials of DU's impact in
a video, also called "Metal of Dishonor," produced by the People's
Video Network. At the meeting Sue Harris of PVN announced development
of a new video, "Poison Dust," which will go on tour to military bases
and communities. The film is necessary, she said, "because the
situation is getting worse."

The U.S. dropped 375 tons of DU on Iraq during the first Gulf War, and
2,200 tons during the current invasion. The U.S. has also used DU
weapons during its assaults on Afghanistan and the former Yugoslavia,
in training exercises in Vieques, Okinawa and South Korea, and
doubtless in numerous U.S. military testing grounds. Other countries
also use DU weapons.

Clark: 'DU is war against the poor'

Ramsey Clark traced his journey toward understanding the murderous
impact of DU on the people of Iraq. He noted that the first signs came
two years after heavy U.S. bombing of the desert near Kuwait in 1991.
Nomadic Bedouin people, seeking help, began to bring newly born
deformed babies into urban hospitals.

In March 2001, Dr. Aws Albait, an Iraqi physician who worked in
Baghdad from 1990-1999, said that leukemia and lymphomas in Iraqi
children had increased 12-fold, and in adults, six-fold.

Illness and genetic damage is also occurring in the children of U.S.
soldiers. Children of male Gulf War veterans are born with twice the
usual rate of birth defects. In female veterans, the rate is three
times normal, with double the rate of miscarriages.

A study in the April 2003 New Scientist magazine suggests DU toxicity
combines synergistically with its radioactivity to produce much more
serious effects than either poison alone.

Clark stressed that the impact of DU unfolds over many years, and that
the movement must be committed to an equally long struggle: "We have
to reach out, be unified, with every ounce of energy. This is a war
against the poor with the U.S. military there only to protect and
increase the wealth of the few."

'A huge catastrophe'

Juan Gonzalez, president of the Nation al Association of Hispanic
Journ alists and a co-producer of the "Democracy Now!" radio show, is
currently running a series of columns on DU in the New York Daily
News. He acknowledged that he was standing on the shoulders of the IAC
and other activists, saying: "A huge, huge catastrophe has been
visited upon the planet by use of these weapons and the spread of
low-level radiation."

Gonzalez broke the story on DU after the mother of a U.S. soldier on
leave from Iraq came to him for help. Her son, serving with a New York
State National Guard unit, was suffering from serious respiratory
problems--and being forced to return to combat. The mother added that
many other members of his unit in Iraq were also so sick with high
temperatures, kidney ailments and respiratory problems that they'd
been sent home to Fort Dix.

Gonzalez saw a connection to the effects of DU, and arranged for
independent testing of the soldiers. Of nine tested, four were
absolutely positive for DU contamination, and three were probable.

Denied testing at Walter Reed Military Hospital, they were examined in
a German clinic under the supervision of Dr. Asaf Durakovic, professor
of radiology and nuclear medicine at Georgetown Univer sity in
Washington, D.C., and a colonel in the U.S. Army Reserves. Dr.
Durakovic, who is the Veterans Administration's nuclear-medicine
expert, has characterized DU as a "threat to humanity."

DU is the latest manifestation of the dangerous low-level radiation
that is a byproduct of U.S. military use of nuclear weapons. Gonzalez
cited a January 2000 federal report on occupational sickness of
Department of Energy personnel that documented 50 years of deliberate
government exposure of military and civilian personnel to radiation.

A 1990 report on the effects of DU, from the U.S. Army Armaments,
Munitions and Chemical Command, was clear: "[L]ong term effects of low
doses [of DU] have been implicated in cancer ... There is no dose so
low that the probability of effect is zero."

Gonzalez was emphatic: "These weapons have to be eliminated or the
whole planet will be contaminated."

Resisting war crimes

Navy veteran Dustin Langley of SNAFU (Support Network for an Armed
Forces Union) stated that DU was just one more crime of the U.S.
against its own soldiers, in a line stretching back to exposing troops
to atomic testing during the Cold War and Agent Orange in Vietnam.

He described how soldiers--working people forced to enlist by the
"poverty draft"--come home with contaminated equipment, store it in
the garage or laundry room, and sicken their own families. "DU doesn't
wash off with Tide," he said.

Langley urged the crowd to join the IAC and SNAFU in turning out for
the June 5 March on Washington to end the U.S. occu pation of Iraq,
Palestine, Haiti, the Philippines, Korea and everywhere. He indicted
the Bush administration as a regime that is "stockpiling weapons of
mass destruction, using them against its own people, and funding a
worldwide network of terrorism" through U.S. military aggression. But
by "regime change," he said, he didn't mean the Democrats or Ralph
Nader's campaign.

The solution? "A global mass movement--a multinational, multi-gendered
anti-war movement that will shock and awe the war-makers in
Washington."

For inspiration, he pointed to the heroic resistance in Falluja and to
the growing number of U.S. soldiers who refuse to com mit war crimes,
like Marine Corps resister Stephen Funk and Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia, a
Nicaraguan immigrant sentenced on May 21 to a year's imprisonment.
Mejia would not return to his unit in Iraq, saying, "This is an
oil-driven war."

More inspiration for resistance came from Frank Velgara of the Vieques
Sup port Campaign, who told how on May 3, 2003, a decades-long
struggle by determined Puerto Rican activists shut down the U.S. Navy
bombing range in Vieques, a "victory against the most powerful
military in the world."

Kadouri al-Kaysi, an International Action Center member from Basra,
Iraq, seconded that determination, focusing the evening on action:
"Iraqis want the U.S. out of Iraq. The fight is still going on, and
they will never give up. Most important is to come to Washington on
June 5 to say to the Iraqis: We are with you, not with the U.S.
government!"

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Commentary - Discipline and Behavior in Combat Areas  
1.  K. A. Cannon  
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De: K. A. Cannon <kcan...@insurgent.orgy>
Data: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:52:39 -0400
Local: Ter 1 jun 2004 12:52
Assunto: Re: Commentary - Discipline and Behavior in Combat Areas
"ssn...@bangserver.na" <ssn...@earthlink.net> posted
<ZWwuc.16197$Tn6.3...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> in us.military
on Mon, 31 May 2004 02:40:57 GMT:

>We also learned about
>responsibility and accountability and that if you are in
>charge listen to your senior NCOs and your subordinates
>before you decide anything and once you have you make the
>decision and take the consequences for that decision for
>good or ill.

There is the big problem.
It's obvious the wonder boi techno-geeks don't listen to the
subordinates, senior NCOs and your basic combat soldier.

If they did...I think the Stryker wouldn't be so goddamn HUGE.
The XM-8 wonder rifle...heh....Hummvee's wouldn't be lacking in armor.
Etc. etc. etc.

I consider myself lucky...Since every Brigade and Battalion commander
I had made a point of getting the scoop from the Line Dogs.
You'd be surprised how showing a Field grade officer why something or
some piece of Equipment sucks will cause radical change...

Show the Colonel.
Hear the Col. say, "You're right soldier, that does fucking suck."
Hear the Col. yell "Sergeant Major!"
In about 24 hours...fixed.

Rumsfeld doesn't listen, if it's not his idea it's not a good idea.

--
K. A. Cannon
kcannon at insurgent dot org
(change the orgy to org to reply)

mhm33x1

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process
he does not become a monster. And when you look into the abyss,
the abyss also looks into you"
- Nietzsche, From Beyond Good and Evil, (1886)

"The person who stands up and says, 'This is stupid,' either is asked to
 `behave' or, worse, is greeted with a cheerful 'Yes, we know! Isn't it
 terrific!'"                    - Frank Zappa

Tom/Mark in alt.test sez:
"People like you are pure scum, K.A. Cannon."


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2.  ssnark@bangserver.na  
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De: "ssn...@bangserver.na" <ssn...@earthlink.net>
Data: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 16:07:49 GMT
Local: Ter 1 jun 2004 13:07
Assunto: Re: Commentary - Discipline and Behavior in Combat Areas
"K. A. Cannon" <kcan...@insurgent.orgy> wrote in message
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<snip>

> Rumsfeld doesn't listen, if it's not his idea it's not a

good idea.

My impression is that he listens selectively to those who
say what he wants to hear.  Which is why the XM-8 which was
formerly the OICW which didn't work as a unit and is being
fielded as two separate components neither of which is any
significant improvement over the systems they are supposed
to replace.  The "privatization" of CS and CSS which so far
has proven to be more costly and less effective than when
they were integral parts of the Army etc., etc.

No matter who becomes CinC one thing should be made crystal
clear Rummy should go.

Snark


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DDG 91 dedicated  
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Data: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 12:59:57 -0500
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Assunto: DDG 91 dedicated
Port Hueneme, Californya - The Navy dedicated its latest ship to a World War
2 sailor who earned the Navy Cross, but whose race prevented him from rising
in the ranks.
Several thousand people lined the docks of Naval Base Ventura County as
naval officials commissioned the Pinckney, a guided-missile destroyer. It is
only the 10th vessel named for a Black in the 229-year history of the USN.
Bill Pinckney was a cook aboard the aircraft carrier Enterprise when he
earned the Navy Cross in 1942.
During the Battle of Santa Cruz, Japanese bombs killed 44 sailors on the
Enterprise. After regaining consciousness after a blast knocked him out,
Pinckney hauled a wounded shipmate through flames in an ammunition-handling
area. He lost consciousness a second time, but revived and managed to hoist
the man up several decks before heading back down on a futile search for
other survivors. Pinckney suffered burns and shrapnel injuries. He left the
Navy in 1946 to work as a cook on Merchant Marine vessels for 26 years
before retiring.
His widow attended the commissioning ceremonies Saturday.
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Ship Named For Hero of World War II Associated Press  
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Assunto: Ship Named For Hero of World War II Associated Press
Ship Named For Hero of World War II Associated Press

(EXCERPT) Sunday, May 30, 2004; Page A12

PORT HUENEME, Calif., May 29 -- Navy officials commissioned a
guided-missile destroyer Saturday that is named for a World War II
hero who rescued a wounded sailor in the South Pacific.

The USS Pinckney is named for Navy Cook 3rd Class William Pinckney,
who was awarded the Navy Cross for service on the aircraft carrier
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Speech: The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors  
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Speech: The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors

(EXCERPT) National Museum of the Pacific War Fredericksburg, Texas
(United States)

Hornfischer, James D., Author

Mr. Hornfischer talked about his book, The Last Stand of the Tin Can
Sailors: The Extraordinary World War II Story of the U.S. Navy's
Finest Hour, published by Bantam. In the book, the author examines the
Battle off Samar, fought in the Philippine Sea on October 25, 1944. A
group of U.S. Navy ships was surprised and engaged by a superior
Japanese battleship force. The outgunned American warships, some
facing Japanese vessels 35 to 60 times their size, were all that stood
between the Japanese battleships and General Douglas MacArthur’s
invasion fleet. In spite of the odds against them, the Americans
fought gamely and ultimately won the day. A number of veterans of the
Battle off Samar were present in the audience for this presentation.
Mr. Hornfischer answered questions from members of the audience.

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