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1.  Rita  
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 Mais opções 1 maio 2004, 06:13
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De: "Rita" <ritahans...@numail.org>
Data: Sat, 1 May 2004 05:13:01 -0400
Local: Sab 1 maio 2004 06:13
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons

"RH" <halcon7r...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Some photos of the sickness of some of our soldiers who are totally
> oblivious to any ethical standards, much less the Geneva convention.
> After killing a few Iraqi women and children, this probably seems like
> nothing to them. This news incident is just the tip of an iceberg that
> 99% will probably never see.

> http://www.empirenotes.org/prisoners.html

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, I really, really liked the one with the caption of "
Woman with cigarette taunting naked hooded Iraqi prisoners" written right
under a depiction of a boy with a cigarette in his mouth. Could you
fakefooks put together something a less believable than that?

Damn, incredible "war atrocities" again.

Rita


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2.  letou...@nospam.net  
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 Mais opções 1 maio 2004, 08:53
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De: letou...@nospam.net
Data: Sat, 01 May 2004 11:53:22 GMT
Local: Sab 1 maio 2004 08:53
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons
In <c6vpqo$goh9...@ID-230702.news.uni-berlin.de>, on 05/01/2004
   at 05:13 AM, "Rita" <ritahans...@numail.org> said:

>"RH" <halcon7r...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:524db79f.0404302059.18874798@posting.google.com...
>> Some photos of the sickness of some of our soldiers who are totally
>> oblivious to any ethical standards, much less the Geneva convention.
>> After killing a few Iraqi women and children, this probably seems like
>> nothing to them. This news incident is just the tip of an iceberg that
>> 99% will probably never see.

>> http://www.empirenotes.org/prisoners.html
>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>Oh, I really, really liked the one with the caption of "
>Woman with cigarette taunting naked hooded Iraqi prisoners" written right
>under a depiction of a boy with a cigarette in his mouth. Could you
>fakefooks put together something a less believable than that?
>Damn, incredible "war atrocities" again.

Talk to your hero duba. He said he's applaud -- well he tried to, but
couldn't think of the word.  Still he stumbled through it.


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3.  George Z. Bush  
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De: "George Z. Bush" <georgezb...@charter.net.nospam>
Data: Sat, 1 May 2004 08:28:36 -0400
Local: Sab 1 maio 2004 09:28
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons

<letou...@nospam.net> wrote in message

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Actually, the words Dubya used to describe what he felt about those photographs
were "deeply disgusted".  The rest of us ought to stop making excuses long
enough to feel at least the same as the President does.  It WAS a disgusting
exhibition that's going to cost our nation far far more than any possible
benefit that could have come of (1) treating their POWs in that fashion, (2)
taking photos of that treatment, and (3) allowing those photos to fall into the
hands of the media.

I hope the President was right when he said it would be looked into and the
matter would be taken care of.

George Z.


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4.  know-buddy  
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 Mais opções 1 maio 2004, 11:20
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De: know-buddy <know-bu...@hotmail.com>
Data: Sat, 01 May 2004 14:20:03 GMT
Local: Sab 1 maio 2004 11:20
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons
On Sat, 1 May 2004 08:28:36 -0400, "George Z. Bush"
<georgezb...@charter.net.nospam> wrote:

...

>Actually, the words Dubya used to describe what he felt about those photographs
>were "deeply disgusted".  The rest of us ought to stop making excuses long
>enough to feel at least the same as the President does.  It WAS a disgusting
>exhibition that's going to cost our nation far far more than any possible
>benefit that could have come of (1) treating their POWs in that fashion, (2)
>taking photos of that treatment, and (3) allowing those photos to fall into the
>hands of the media.

War is Hell. The American people are in desperate need of the truth -
with all of the lies from the Bush regime, and all the news media's
support for the invasion - they sanitize war and rarely show how
hellish it really is.  60 minites should do a report on the estimated
10,000 Iraqi women, children, and old men who have been killed, and
another report on the thousands of Iraqis (and the hundreds of US
soldiers) who have been crippled for life. Don't forget that the rest
of the world did not want to invade - they wanted to solve the problem
diplomatically. The warmongering Bush regime simply couldn't wait.

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During the first two weeks of this month, the American army committed
war crimes in Falluja on a scale unprecedented for this war. According
to the relatively few media reports of what took place there, some 600
Iraqis were killed during these two weeks, among them some 450 elderly
people, women and children.

The sight of decapitated children, the rows of dead women and the
shocking pictures of the soccer stadium that was turned into a
temporary grave for hundreds of the slain - all were broadcast to the
world only by the Al Jazeera network. During the operation in Falluja,
according to the organization Doctors Without Borders, U.S. Marines
even occupied the hospitals and prevented hundreds of the wounded from
receiving medical treatment. Snipers fired from the rooftops at anyone
who tried to approach.

This was a retaliatory operation, carried out by the Marines,
accompanied by F-16 fighter planes and assault helicopters, under the
code name "Vigilant Resolve." It was revenge for the killing of four
American security guards on March 31. But while the killing of the
guards, whose bodies were dragged through the streets of the city and
then hung from a bridge, received wide media coverage, and thus
prepared hearts and minds for the military revenge, the hundreds of
victims of the American retaliation were practically a military
secret.

The only conclusion that has been drawn thus far from the
indiscriminate killing in Falluja is the expulsion of Al Jazeera from
the city. Since the start of the war, the Americans have persecuted
the network's journalists - not because they report lies, but because
they are virtually the only ones who manage to report the truth. The
Bush administration, in cooperation with the American media, is trying
to hide the sights of war from the world, and particularly from
American voters.

This week, for the first time, the Americans permitted pictures to be
published of the coffins of dead American soldiers being sent back
home. Until this week, such pictures were forbidden. Therefore, it is
no wonder Bush's poll results are better than ever, even though the
number of Americans killed in Iraq in April has reached 115.

Above article continues here:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/421014.html
Title: Remember Falluja        
By Orit Shohat

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

When I was here [in Iraq] in January, there was a pervasive atmosphere
of discontent, frustration, and anger with the occupation. But most
people were still just trying to ride it out, stay patient, and hope
that things improved. The wanton brutality of the occupation has at
long last put an end to that patience.

Before, the occupation might have succeeded -- not in building real
democracy, which was never the goal, but in cementing U.S. control of
Iraq. It cannot succeed now. The resistance in Fallujah will be beaten
down, with the commission of more war crimes; if the United States
invades Najaf, it will be able to win militarily there as well. But
from now on, no military victory will make Iraqis stop resisting.

Excerpted from:
Blogging from Bhagdad
http://www.empirenotes.org/

XXXXXXXXXX

For the most part, American corporate news industry is a cash cow for
the super rich who also own the American politicians. They want to
make more and more and more and more money,  NOT to tell the people
the truth about what's going on, or to support democracy.  Only the
truth will set us free from tyrants, fear, and needless bloodshed.

Two pretty good sources for daily news:

http://www.commondreams.org
http://www.democracynow.org

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no peace; without peace there can be no future." The World Teacher  
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5.  Rita  
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 Mais opções 1 maio 2004, 18:41
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De: "Rita" <ritahans...@numail.org>
Data: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:41:30 -0400
Local: Sab 1 maio 2004 18:41
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons

"George Z. Bush" <georgezb...@charter.net.nospam> wrote in message
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Excuse me, George Z., but after the alleged atrocities are fully
investigated, and it is found that anyone in our Armed Forces are
responsible, I'll feel more than "deeply disgusted," but you don't mind if I
wait, do you? I mean I *am* disgusted that a woman has seemingly morphed
into a man, and I *am* disgusted if our soldiers are involved with
brutality, and especially if they were idiotic enough to have pictures made
of the event, and I *am* disgusted that people take as gospel what may very
well be a huge shot of smoke up their butts without waiting for an
appropriate investigation to decide the legitimacy of the charges. War
atrocities are real. They happen in every war. I don't want our Armed Forces
participating in anything of the sort, and I hope for their severe
punishment if they are found to be guilty. On the other hand, war propaganda
is also very real, and truth to tell, those pictures alone don't have enough
fake-fellatio "torture" in order for me to believe them right now. They look
nothing but disgustingly stupid.

Rita

  >>It WAS a disgusting

Indeed. That may be the most disgustingly dumbest excuse for torture that's
ever been.

Rita


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6.  quartz  
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De: "quartz" <lastparr...@yahoo.co.uk>
Data: Mon, 3 May 2004 03:02:16 +0100
Local: Dom 2 maio 2004 23:02
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons
and these pictures, do youy belive them???
http://www.albasrah.net/images/iraqi-pow/iraqi-pow

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7.  William Boyd  
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De: William Boyd <will...@cowboy.net>
Data: Sat, 01 May 2004 08:49:59 -0500
Local: Sab 1 maio 2004 10:49
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons

Rita wrote:

Dammed, Rita don't you sleep, you posted this in the middle of the
night!

CHEERS>> PE


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8.  Rita  
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De: "Rita" <ritahans...@numail.org>
Data: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:15:02 -0400
Local: Sab 1 maio 2004 20:15
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons

"William Boyd" <will...@cowboy.net> wrote in message

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> Rita wrote:

> Dammed, Rita don't you sleep,

Sometimes not.

 you posted this in the middle of the

> night!

Yes, I know, and then I went to work before dawn.

> CHEERS

Not hardly, coming home and finding out what I suspect is a very sad and
very nauseating truth. I'd say "hang 'em," but that might upset Europe.

Rita


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9.  raven  
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De: "raven" <ra...@hetnet.nl>
Data: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:31:26 +0200
Local: Qui 6 maio 2004 07:31
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons
hey Rita what do you know about the thougts and feelings of the european
people ?? do you really think that our politiciens represents us ? well it
isn,t our leaders don,t hear us!!! further it seems that the phoenix program
is going on in iraq! but i think that our soldiers the dutch, could commit
the same warcrimes. anyway i think that
attacking iraq doesn,t stop in what way ever terrorism.
it is again the black gold oil. raven
"Rita" <ritahans...@numail.org> schreef in bericht
news:c71b5h$h2grv$1@ID-230702.news.uni-berlin.de...


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10.  Rita  
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Data: Thu, 6 May 2004 20:21:17 -0400
Local: Qui 6 maio 2004 21:21
Assunto: Re: US War Crimes in Iraqi Prisons

"raven" <ra...@hetnet.nl> wrote in message

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> hey Rita what do you know about the thougts and feelings of the european
> people ??

I know I don't want to see any more of your idiotic ranting in my mailbox,
and now you know it.

Rita


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