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Grupos de notícias: alt.military.uk, can.community.military, us.military.army, alt.military.police, alt.military, us.military.national-guard, us.military.navy
De: "ESLaPorte" <eslapo...@pronato.com>
Data: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 15:25:57 GMT
Local: Qui 1 abr 2004 12:25
Assunto: SFOR is disgracing and shaming us again in BiH..!
*Well - the mindless, stormtroopers of SFOR are at it again in BiH! For
starters, what SFOR does in the name of our beloved NATO - also "for the Atlantic Community" - is disgraceful! First of all, this Author is not "pro-Serb," "pro-Russian" - but pro-Atlantic Community and especially pro-North Atlantic Treaty. What SFOR does in BiH, espically in the town of Pale, is to spit on the North Atlantic Treaty and SFOR needs to stop calling itself part of NATO. I have stopped, for a long time, concidering SFOR as part of NATO, and therefore associated with the North Atlantic Treaty. This Author no longer associates SFOR with our beloved NATO Alliance and therefore with the North Atlantic Treaty and the Atlantic Community! Our Atlantic Alliance and the North Atlantic Treaty should not be dragged Second - the North Atlantic Treaty is for the Bosnian Serbs, just as it is Third - this notion the Serbia cannot be associated with NATO and the SFOR is utterly shameful and disgraceful to us all in the Atlantic Erin LaPorte ---- The Associated Press By RADUL RADOVANOVIC, Associated Press Writer PALE, Bosnia-Herzegovina Two helicopters landed in front of the building. Soldiers carried two people Pale is the site of the headquarters of Karadzic, the leader of Bosnia's He is indicted by the U.N. tribunal in The Hague, Netherlands, on suspicion Capt. Dave Sullivan, a spokesman for the NATO-led peacekeeping force in About 100 residents - some angry, others confused - gathered around the É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: alt.military.uk, can.community.military, us.military.army, alt.military.police, alt.military, us.military.national-guard, us.military.navy
De: "Jonathan Carroll" <carr...@gotadsl.co.uk>
Data: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 19:32:42 +0100
Local: Qui 1 abr 2004 15:32
Assunto: Re: SFOR is disgracing and shaming us again in BiH..!
To suggest that an attempt to arrest 2 indviduals, both indicted for mass
murder on a scale that makes 9/11 pale into insignificance, brings either SFOR or NATO into disrepute is frankly stupid. If you believe in a defensive alliance, then you must stand by the rule of How exactly do the Serbian people have "a right" to be part of NATO? NATO Sorry - can't take you seriously. Bye Bye. É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: alt.military.uk, can.community.military, us.military.army, alt.military.police, alt.military, us.military.national-guard, us.military.navy
De: "David Halpern" <photonicband...@earthlink.net>
Data: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:24:01 GMT
Local: Sex 2 abr 2004 07:24
Assunto: Re: SFOR is disgracing and shaming us again in BiH..!
news:9wWac.7430$yN6.1213@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Esla how is Arkan? VIVA Montenegro Forever :) D.H. É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: alt.military.uk, can.community.military, us.military.army, alt.military.police, alt.military, us.military.national-guard, us.military.navy
De: "ESLaPorte" <eslapo...@pronato.com>
Data: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 16:33:15 GMT
Local: Qui 1 abr 2004 13:33
Assunto: NATO supporter would like to say SORRY to Boanian Serbs!
First of all, I am the biggest supporter of the NATO Alliance that can be
found anywhere. I am graduate student of European security studies, mainly in NATO studies, and I have attended international events with NATO leaders and I am associated with Atlantic Councils. I am currently involved with starting a pro-NATO, Atlantic oriented organization for students, and will be attending "NATOfest" in Norfolk, VA, near the ACT headquarters later this month to talk about the organizations that I am associated with. I have spent several years researching and writing about the North Atlantic Treaty and the foundations of my beloved NATO Alliance. Second, I am not Serbian, but we in the Atlantic Community (which produced Now, as a student and supporter of NATO I have followed the actions of SFOR There are those in NATO and the Atlantic Councils who are trying to bring The Bosnian Serbs are going to be parties to the North Atlantic Treaty, as As a NATO patriot, student of the North Atlantic Treaty and fellow peace and Rather than shooting at Bosnian Serbs - we should be passing out the North Please join me ! Erin LaPorte É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: alt.military.uk, can.community.military, us.military.army, alt.military.police, alt.military, us.military.national-guard, us.military.navy
De: "ESLaPorte" <eslapo...@pronato.com>
Data: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 17:30:56 GMT
Local: Qui 1 abr 2004 14:30
Assunto: Letter to SecGen on brutal behavior of SFOR
I have just faxed the letter below of protest to the SecGen's office (to one
phone number) in Brussels... If you are interested in putting up a meaningful effort to change SFOR's I intend to at least do something... --- Dear Mr. Scheffer: Second - along with the brutal actions of SFOR, this notion the Serbia Third - I have noted that for sometime, from the news reports, that there is SFOR is utterly shameful and disgraceful to us all in the Atlantic Community What this Author is also alarmed at is that after the serious wounding of a --- É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: us.config, us.military.navy
Encaminhar para: us.config
De: "us.* group stats" <us-st...@usenetnews.us>
Data: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 18:25:43 GMT
Local: Qui 1 abr 2004 15:25
Assunto: [MONTHLY POSTING STATS] us.military.navy 3-1-04 to 3-31-04
Newsgroup 'us.military.navy' - Monthly Stats 01-Apr-04
Generated by David Casey (davidca...@spamcop.net) These results are based on the messages on the Easynews server. Total Posts this period: 608 ------------------------START SECTION 'POSTERS'----------------------- Number of posts by Person (84 people posted during this period) TT = This Time TT LT Person # AML QP PGM PGB --------------------START SECTION 'BANDWIDTH HOGS!'------------------- Person Hog Factor --------------------END SECTION 'BANDWIDTH HOGS!'-------------------- -----------------------START SECTION 'SUBJECTS'----------------------- Number of posts by Subject (116 subjects during this period) TT LT Subject # PGM PGB É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: us.military.army, us.military, us.military.navy, alt.military
De: bill.wh...@us.army.mil (RTO Trainer)
Data: 1 Apr 2004 13:30:34 -0800
Local: Qui 1 abr 2004 18:30
Assunto: Re: Transformation of the US Military - Wish List
If what I'm finding is accurate (it's largely speculation--you'd
probably have access to better info bing able to access LG Petraeus) the BN might end up looking like mini-ACRs; a combined arms team. I'm not familiar enough with teh MEU composition to have made that statement but it makes sense in a lot of ways. The Expeditionary nature is one of the things that the Army is trying to capture and the Marines have been doing that successfully for a long time. > I do not believe the choice was arbitrary or Interestingly greater teeth to tail is what is supposed to be achieved > driven by the DA but rather based upon the studies that were > developed prior to the adoption of the Airland concept of > the 1980s that indicated that the Brigade was likely the > ideal manuever unit that could operate as a separate, self > sufficient and autonomous force in the enemy second echelon > and lines of supply (which BTW was the way that NATO would > counter the problem of numerical inferiority when it's 8-12 > divisions were faced with 144 potential Soviet Divisions). > The Brigade still has those capabilities even though in the > late 1980s and 1990s the supporting assets were moved to > Division and Corps levels as they were once again the units > of choice for cost cutting measures (increasing teeth to > tail ratio it has been called since the days after the > Vietnam War where every brigade was indeed self contained). by this as well even though they are moving Corps and Div assets down. We'll just have to wait and see I guess. Yep. Now for Part Two, Part One being the Maneuver part. There are functions that need to be "promoted" out of the individual É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: us.military.army, us.military, us.military.navy, alt.military
Data: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:07:41 GMT
Local: Qui 1 abr 2004 19:07
Assunto: Re: Transformation of the US Military - Wish List
news:ed856011.0404011330.4f4e430b@posting.google.com
> If what I'm finding is accurate (it's largely "mini-ACR" with supporting arms (aviation and arty), transportation/logistics (aviation and vehicular) along with MP units integrated into the Brigade TO&E which make the Brigade more akin to a regiment in both size and organization than the current versions. The Airborne and Air Assault versions of this are even more amorphous and somehow it doesn't look all that light, fast and deployable at this time. I am of the opinion that it should look more like a USMC MEU but to do that means to sacrifice sustainability and quite a bit of survivability IMO. I think it is the concept they're trying to achieve but, to add sustainability and survivability to it for the kinds of missions that are envisioned adds a *lot* of weight and personnel of which only some small part can at this time be eliminated by automation or lightened by substitution of existing technologies. One of the aspect of this that I'm not particularly enamored of, is the discussion of removing all artillery and heavy armor from the units. I know, I think I'm going to adapt redc1c4's attitude on this. :-O OK. How about Theater level Intelligence? I'm pretty much convinced that even that could and should be done by a joint service team. I think that Medical is also one that can be joint all the way down to the lowest echelon and would put them out of the chain of command which is not a bad idea. Also add R&D to procurement as anything being developed should work into an overall operational doctrine. Snark É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: us.military.army, us.military, us.military.navy, alt.military
De: Howard Berkowitz <h...@gettcomm.com>
Data: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:00:45 -0500
Local: Qui 1 abr 2004 23:00
Assunto: Re: Transformation of the US Military - Wish List
In article <No0bc.11608$lt2.3...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"ssn...@bangserver.na" <ssn...@earthlink.net> wrote: Agreed, at least at the analytical level. Depends on the level where you > OK. How about Theater level Intelligence? I'm pretty much put certain assets that aren't in the TENCAP program, but are still mostly nationally controlled. For example, large airborne collectors aren't going to be well supported by the Army, which doesn't have facilities for large fixed-wing aircraft. The Air Force will have problems with tactical submarine-deployed sensors. > I think that Medical is also one that can be joint all the You'll have to have some options for specialization. Aerospace and > way down to the lowest echelon and would put them out of the > chain of command which is not a bad idea. diving medicine, for example, are legitimate specialties that won't be needed in all units. É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: us.military.army, us.military, us.military.navy, alt.military
Data: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:16:20 GMT
Local: Sex 2 abr 2004 01:16
Assunto: Re: Transformation of the US Military - Wish List
news:hcb-B5BFAA.21004501042004@text.giganews.com
> In article <No0bc.11608$lt2.3...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, At the theater level I'd be surprised if there were not Air Bases and if need be Naval staff available to monitor the data from fleet sensor platforms and systems. There were whenever we had RIMPAC exercises in CinCPAC. >> I think that Medical is also one that can be joint all That would be reasonable although the Aerospace and Diving the >> way down to the lowest echelon and would put them out of the >> chain of command which is not a bad idea. > You'll have to have some options for specialization. Medical specialties already exist in three of the services. Snark É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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