Signing kids up in High School for enlistment after graduation is pretty
common. Thats what I assumed was meant but it wasn't very clear in the
original post.

: 2. I never heard of an Aviation Assistance Equipment Tech. Again, it
: looks like somebody's chain is being pulled.

I'm guessing its Aviation Support Equipment which is or was the AS rating
and pretty demanding because of its complexity. Got to maintain both
piston and turbine engines, hydraulic systems, airconditions, electric
generators and lots of other stuff.

: 3. Being pulled over by the police and not being ticketed doesn't get
: recorded anywhere so how could the Navy know about it? In any case, if
: he was a juvenile (<18) at the time any police records are privileged
: information and not available to the Navy. Where are you hearing this
: stuff, from the Navy or from your son???

Getting ticketed generally involves going to court and paying a fine
which certainly does create a public record. There used to be a dollar
limit for a maximum fine payment to get a security clearance which nuke
candidates generally need.

: 4. If he's really that unhappy (or is it unsuited) with the Navy,
: they'll cut him loose without too much of a hassle. Then he can come
: home and become another unemployed High School drop out.

Probably.

: 5. Having both spent a bit of time in the Navy and having raised four
: kids (and listened to some pretty wild BS), I'd tend to listen to the
: Navy's story, rather than my son's, on this one.

Only did 22 years active and raised 3 kids and I'll agree with that. Only
problem is that the Navy ain't gonna talk to the parents unless the
parent writes to the CO asking for specific information.

Drop the nukes rule argument and the bleeding heart nuke subs can't
get underway with out us bit. As the DBFers can attest to, that diesel
in AMR is more that capable of getting the boat underway. Besides,
subs get underway for only one serious reason -- the TORPEDO ROOM and
its weapons.

Mike Talmon <ctal...@mht.iai.co.il> wrote in article
<32265B3B.7...@mht.iai.co.il>...

Pete wrote on August 29th, 1996:

PH>In addition, the Japanese torpedoes were bigger: 24"
PH>diameter instead of 21" typical for other navies, and as a result
PH>the torpedoes were superlatively faster, longer ranged, and more
PH>heavily armed than any others.  Finally, touchy mechanical
PH>elements such as depth control, exploders, etc. all seemed to work
PH>properly, whereas the American's in particular did not.

But - was the longer range of the torps really effective?
The German sub commanders were told not to fire torpedoes on enemy vessels  
if the distance to them was more than 1 kilometer.
Most commanders even decreased the distance to 400 or 500 meters, just to  
make sure that even a single torpedo was a sure hit and not to waste  
torpedos by firing two or even three on one single target.

So I wonder whether a max. range of 44,000 yards really could effectively  
be used...

Any comments?

Sincerely,

I'm sorry if that's the way I came across. This is NOT the case. When I
saw the Boxer it was around 22:00. The ship's hanger deck was all light
up with people all over the place. She looked like a building next to
the DD's and FFG's that are around her. There are some other ships near
her that appear to be cargo landing craft, LP?. I've seen ships of this
type in Virginia but do not know an LPH form an LP-anything else. The
Boxer makes these look smaller than they really are due to the Boxer's
size.

In article <Pine.BSI.3.91.960827192734.17114A-100...@aurora.cybcon.com>,

        I think she'll do her namesake justice.  She's the key to our
Navy-Marine Corps 911 service.

I want to clear something up. I entered a message about the USS Boxer
stating that I saw this ship in June of 1996 in San Diego which I indeed
did.

I made a comment to the fact that the ship was like a building tie to
the pier with sailors on it. That statement came across as sounding like
the ship is there rusting away which is not the intent or meaning of my
statement.

What I had in mind when I wrote that statement was the ship was the
largest thing in that area and looked like a building next to the FFG's
and DD's that are around her. It was 22:00 when I saw her and with all
of the hanger deck lights on you could see people moving around all over
the place. The ship looked like a very large building all light up and
very busy.

If my previous message made her sound like a perminate piece of the
waterfront I'm sorry. I did not mean it to sound that way.

Right name, wrong ship!  The USS Boxer is in fact BASED in San Diego, but it is
a very different ship from the CVS-21.  The new Boxer is LHD-4, an amphibious
assault ship, made for putting ashore a couple of thousand Marines and supporting
them with helos and AV-8Bs off of the flight deck!  Spent three days aboard doing
some system testing a couple of months ago!

First rate ship, absolutely a first rate crew, but actually one of the newer ships
in the USN, not the CVS-21.