Shokaku in WW2
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: yang...@math.ntu.edu.tw (B.Y.)
Data: 1996/06/01
Assunto: Shokaku in WW2
Can someone give a brief description of what actions this carrier that -- É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Gary J. Mac Donald)
Data: 1996/06/01
Assunto: Re: Shokaku in WW2
B.Y. (yang...@math.ntu.edu.tw) writes: I'm not sure if this is a complete list: > Can someone give a brief description of what actions this carrier that > was named "the second most valiant carrier of the war" in a book that > I saw? [The MOST valiant one being, perhaps the USS Enterprise?] 1. All kido butai actions for the first 4 months of the Pacific war 2. Coral Sea (damaged). 3. Battles of EasternSolomons and Santa Cruz during the Guadalcanal 4. Air group used in Operation "I" for strikes from Rabaul against 5. Phillipine Sea. Sunk by submarine torpedos. I find it hard to think why this ship might be considered the 2nd "most GaryJ É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: stew...@tdbank.ca (Kevin Stewart)
Data: 1996/06/02
Assunto: Re: Shokaku in WW2
ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Gary J. Mac Donald) wrote: >3. Battles of EasternSolomons and Santa Cruz during the Guadalcanal She was near missed at the Eastern Solomons action and had six killed, >campaign. Damaged in one but I can't recall which. not counting air group losses. At Santa Cruz she was hit by 3 1,000 bombs and suffered major damage. >I find it hard to think why this ship might be considered the 2nd "most But Zuikaku fought one more battle, Leyte Gulf-Cape Engano. >valiant" carrier of the war, although it might be given the nod over >sister Zuikaku because it survived action damage Ark Royal had a great record, but only survived two years of war. My list would be É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Boorda's Replacement
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: forcoo...@aol.com (FOR COOKIE)
Data: 1996/06/01
Assunto: Re: Boorda's Replacement
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: mic...@aol.com (MICOMA)
Data: 1996/06/02
Assunto: Re: Boorda's Replacement
In article <4opkru$...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, forcoo...@aol.com (FOR COOKIE) writes: hardly >Prueher! Just what we need, someone who approves of handcuffing women to >the urinal. Mike Weeks MIC...@aol.com É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: metaj...@aol.com (MetaJohn)
Data: 1996/06/03
Assunto: Re: Boorda's Replacement
In article <4or4ua$...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mic...@aol.com (MICOMA) >In article <4opkru$...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, forcoo...@aol.com (FOR >>Prueher! Just what we need, someone who approves of handcuffing women >hardly >Mike Weeks MIC...@aol.com careers go awry. ADM Prueher is a very competent and hard working individual and has probably done more useful work by accident than this "forcoo...@aol.com (FOR COOKIE)" has on purpose!! BY what light does "forcookie" make this revelatory statement "someone who approves of handcuffing women" other than a complete misperception of the original incident, and then ADM Preuher's response to it! It is these "gibberish" versions of current history which should give us real pause! If nominally educated people can all hear the same basic news story, which in this example reported and differed little in their accounts of the "facts", and then begin to actively distort that information in random spasms of verbage months to years later, what hope is there for rational informed decision making by the "great unwashed"? Suspicions, accusatory remarks, and humbrage may all be taken liberally with the appropriate qualifying remarks, and discalimers. But the open assassination of character by unself-reported and apparently willful distortion is very bad form: "Judge not sir, lest ye. . . " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Valdez tanker misinformation - how does this happen?
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: stew...@tdbank.ca (Kevin Stewart)
Data: 1996/06/01
Assunto: Re: Valdez tanker misinformation - how does this happen?
wroll...@nmsu.edu (WILLIAM HAROLD ROLLINS) wrote: >Kevin Stewart (stew...@tdbank.ca) wrote: I think I'd qualify as a "bunny hugger". The key question is the >: Spill a few million gallons of crude into a pristine area, >: and you're suprised people don't view subsequent actions >: with total objectivity? >Yeah, especially the bunny huggers. They want their houses heated and >gasoline for their cars but won't accept any risk to the environment to >get it. >Wonder how many boats have lost their cargo into the water since the >first cave man figured out how to build the damn things? amount of risk to be taken. Am I willing to pay more for oil to reduce the risk of a spill? Sure. The obvious measures, taken since the disaster, of closer Coast Guard monitoring of ship tracks, and of having tugs accompany arriving and departing tankers, cost little and should have been standard practice before March 24, 1989. IMHO, allowing single hulled tankers to operate in Alaskan waters is insanity, as is the common practice of outfitting a 200,000 ton tanker with a single screw. That did in the Amoco Cadiz... And then we could talk about operating supertankers under flags of convience, to avoid safety and labor regulations. Saves the operators millions, but even if the savings was passed on to the consumer it would probably be a fraction of a cent per gallon. We're not cavemen. We can do much, much, better. i É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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USS Jacksonsville collides with merchant ship - how does this happen?
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: edward_Te...@queen.annes.revenge (BlackBeard)
Data: 1996/06/03
Assunto: Re: USS Jacksonsville collides with merchant ship - how does this happen?
In article <31ac903f.14552...@news.norfolk.infi.net>, w...@infi.net (W.E. Nichols) wrote: I'm certain it was probably at least twice as long as it took me to read > schap...@notis.com Banged on the keyboard and wrote: > + > One thing you still don't understand about naval science (aka F****** > Now if I told how much retirement time it took to type that.............. it, but then, I was on subs, we don't have to move our lips when we read ;) hehehe.. BlackBeard É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: ad...@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Tim McFeely)
Data: 1996/06/03
Assunto: Re: USS Jacksonsville collides with merchant ship - how does this happen?
As it was, the cable connection flooded out more often than not and
the OOD either ended up wearing sound powered phones or had the lookout do it, while the AEF (IC type person) worked frantically to dry it out and get the suitcase to work properly. Now think about have to stand the watch under the above conditions, but add the AEF sitting on your feet playing around with electrical stuff. Another problem was the disconcerting tendency for the collision alarm to sound everytime the suitcase got really wet!!!!! >Later Scope's under... >D >-- >>Dale Hillier |Time is the only excuse that keeps < >>Advanced Nautical Science |everything from happening at once." < >>Marine Institute of Memorial | < >>University of Newfoundland |Phillip Hiller, M/V Emerald Star < Tim McFeely ex-TM2(SS)...a dying breed ad...@osfn.rhilinet.gov É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: sci.military.naval
De: ad...@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Tim McFeely)
Data: 1996/06/03
Assunto: Re: USS Jacksonsville collides with merchant ship - how does this happen?
ji...@ix.netcom.com (Jim Lutz) wrote: 688 first and second flights = 15 feet. >Terry Stover <tsto...@amd.com> wrote: >>BS. Did you ever see them moored next to each other. 594's (at least >>the short hulls) had a 25 ft. sail, 688's had at least a 30 ft sail. PD >>on a 688 is 10+ feet deeper. >30 ft?! The SSN751 sail is about 1/2 ft higher than the earlier >classes and its sail is approximately 17 ft. 751 = ~ 16 feet. PD is classified, but I would bet they were close to the same even >Jim Scope's under... Tim McFeely ex-TM2(SS)...a dying breed ad...@osfn.rhilinet.gov É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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