Only they couldn't find the Victor - it took them about 7 hours.

It is said that the Victor moved at speed away from the exercise to pretend
that it just happened to be passing - but so far it is difficult to piece
everything together.

The helicopter crews said that they weren't very sure how they were expected
to lift the casualty if the sub kept hiding under the water.  Eventually it
did surface and Scottish TV showed pictures, from a Nimrod, of the Victor.

Just another sign that the old ( and dangerous ) games are still going on.  
I suppose the RN and USN still have subs sitting off Murmansk.

What happened to the Italians anyway? They used to be stars 2000 years
ago. Now they had problems beating up on the Ethiopians, Graziani with a
vastly superior force was whipped by the Brits in North Africa, the
Greeks beat the shit out of them, and they switch sides like a piece of
falling buttered toast.

I was there back in 16 May 66 for 14 weeks of run and fun. I couldn't find
any of the old buildings that I once had the pleasure of cleaning and
living in. I did see new in this picture that appear to be what was once
called Camp Moffet.

RTC isn't 14 weeks long as it was when I was there, it's now 8 to 9 weeks.
No longer are you a spastic puke, a shit bird, or a fucken drifty.  You're
now politicial correct Ricky Recruit  and Chucks.

One doesn't spend time washing ones cloths. These are all sent to a
laundry to be washed for you. No longer does one carry that useless 30.06
springfield around or wear leggings, nor do you wear your undress uniforms
such as your whites during the summer so you can scrub the shoulders out
of them trying to get that brown stain that was left by that 30.06 piece
that you carried around.

It's now boon dockers and dungrees. No more daily PI's where you pull the
collar of your Tee Shirt out three feet in front of you by your thumb so
the inside of the collar can be inspected.

Gone is the Company and the Company Commander. This has led way to Ship
and Division and the Division Commander(s).

One thing that has not changed in the Gas House.. It looks like the same
2000 year old white building that I once had the pleasure of running
around in and puking in front of.

Ski  ex-MM2(SS)  SSBN-618 Blue

Hey, every country has its weirdos.  I am sure that the British would not
take the actions of one moron to be representative of the entirety of the
Canadian submarine service.  Besides, I have heard some stories about RN
individuals that, if true, make Commander Cigar-Tube look extremely
tame.  I would a few to you here, but there might be children or easily
offended people reading this group.

cheers,

Karon

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Karon G. Campbell                    All Reality is Virtual

In reference to the gunnery aspect, I also remember that when the BB's
were being refitted, they wanted to put in a digital FCS, but when
comparative trials were run, they found the existing analog battlistic
computers to be as (if not more accurate)...

...ANyone else remmeber this?

--Den

Of course adding a device to measure the speed of the thingy leaving the barrel
would help (assuming you have very consistant charges).  I saw a picture of this
once, but I can't remember on what.