>Is it possible though, that the F-14 radars might have some problems
maintaing
>lock in aircraft of that vintage?

>What about sidewinders? Do WII vintage a/c generate enough heat?

>If these thing were true, then perhaps it wouldn't be such a turkey
shoot at
>least as far as aircraft goes.

>>Is it possible though, that the F-14 radars might have some problems
> maintaing
>>lock in aircraft of that vintage?

>>What about sidewinders? Do WII vintage a/c generate enough heat?

>>If these thing were true, then perhaps it wouldn't be such a turkey
> shoot at
>>least as far as aircraft goes.

> Is everbody forgetting gun pods?? At the very least the ship has about
> 48 planes with guns, F-14s and A-7/F-18s (depending on which time frame
> we are considering). It would be no contest for even an A-7 to fly a
> full deflection shot at several planes in one pass. The enemy would
> never know they were being attacked until it was too late. An even
> better tactic would be several planes diving from FL450 onto the
> unsuspecting formation, chewing it up as they passed thru! Imagine
> using the jets speed to get away and back into position.

> Something else I forgot to say in my previous post:
> After the Nimitz eliminates the JapFleet, and before it can commence
> operations against Germany, the US would have to switch production to
> JP-4 or JetA...not that hard considering they are just specific
> mixtures of Kerosene...and then get the feul to the ship via whatever
> oilers (yes, more than one) would be in position.

> This brings up an interesting question: Did the USN keep any kerosene
> at the PH oil farms? How much would the ship be able to find in the
> Pacific in Dec41? IIRC, kerosene was used mostly as a farm fuel, not as
> a military fuel. Can anyone verify?

>I agree with Mr. Paul Adam.  The WWII group will have an impossibly
>difficult time finding the CVBG.  Even if the monster attack group of
>900 aircraft has the Nimitz CVN and group localized and flies straight
>toward it,

>umm, how fast does a laden VAl or Dauntless go?  200 knots for a round
>number? OK, for more simplicity say they fly in from 400 nm out.  OK,
>two hours flight time inbound.  I'm not an expert, but I imagine the
>Hawkeyes would have a battle group big enough to launch 900 planes
>easily spotted at 400 nm out.

>OK.  Now let's say the CVBG is nice enough not to have A-6s and such
>planting bombs in the enemy carrier decks before sunrise to the point
>that the 900 possible is now much reduced before the actual launch.

>900 inbound hostiles get bounced by uhhh, 20 F-14s with about 8
>missiles each.  8x20 = 160.  900-160 = 740.  Tomcats go back to
>rearm/refuel.  ummm, about 40 F/A-18s bounce the hostiles with about 6
>missiles each.  6x40 = 240.  740 - 240 = 500.  Now the Ticonderoga
>class CG and about 3 x FFG get about say, 150 with their SM-2s.
>500-150 = 350.  Hostiles definitely into the kamikaze fatalistic
>mentality now.

>Now perhaps the Tomcats are back into it.  8x20 missiles again is 160
>and 350-160 is 190.  Tomcats go in to gun range and get maybe two each
>(very generous to the prop planes here) so 2 x 20 = 40 and 190 - 40 =
>150.

>Now say the hostiles have reached the CVBG.  Sea Sparrow, Phalanx,
>76mm, etc start picking off the incoming. How many of the surviving
>100maybe hostiles are bombers?  MAYBE they'd do a great deal of
>kamikaze damage, but I think a good deal of the fleet would survive
>and still be combat effective even.
>        I realize this is a very rough estimate, but whatever.  I
>would rather be on the Nimitz on this battle.

>: "When you have shot and killed a man, you have defined your attitude towards
>: him. You have offered a definite answer to a definite problem. For better
>: or for worse, you have acted decisively.
>:               In fact, the next move is up to him."         <R.A. Lafferty>

>: Paul J. Adam                                      p...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk

>Mr Adam I don't understand this quote.  If you killed a man, how is
>the next move up to him??

>Edmund Rowe

>>  [snip]I realize this is a very rough estimate, but whatever.  I
>>would rather be on the Nimitz on this battle.

>>You are forgetting that the NIMITZ didn't have any other ships, she
>>was all by her lonesome.  You are cheating!  You can't use a Ticonderoga...
>>I called.

>Look at the subject line. It says 'Single Nimitz BG'. This means that
>the Nimitz had a battlegroup. This could mean the Nimitz and an ocean
>tug, or the Nimitz and 30 Arleigh Burke DDGs, 20 Ticondeiga CGs, and
>10 Tarawa/Wasp's armed with Harrier II+ and AMRAAMs. Of course, it
>probably means about 7 or so ships, at least two of which carry Aegis.

>That reminds me -- in the movie "The Final Countdown", what the HELL
>was the Nimitz doing unescorted?
>--
>Joseph P. Hillenburg
>Email:    mailto:johil...@indiana.edu
>WWW Page: http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~johillen/