Heh. Nice try, Rick. Actually, with the related talk of swallowing
your dolphins, I wonder if the two phrases are related.

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Scott D. Orr (sd...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: With the dearth of cruisers, I can see, in a certain sense, why they
: started naming subs after cities -- but then, if they hadn't named
: some cruisers after states, they could have named THOSE after cities,
: and if they hadn't started the extraordinarily tacky process of naming
: carriers after people (that's what DD's and FF's are for, after all),
: they could have named them after battles, freeing up all those Tico's
: for real cruiser names....

yea, but there are only so many bnattles to name them after. After all
would you want to serve on a carrier named Truk?
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I wouldn't want to be a skimmer but if I was the USS Truk would be a worthy
and honarable name.

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In <3vfarj$...@knot.queensu.ca> saund...@qlink.queensu.ca (Graydon)
writes:
Actually, I think a lot more of them are named after light cruisers
than heavy cruisers -- at any rate ALL cruisers in the WWII period
were named after cities.

However, earlier (pre-Dreadnought) cruisers were named after states,
starting with USS Georgia.

Subs never were an auxiliary fleet arm -- they are, in a certain sense,
a different fleet, though that's been changing, slowly, in the past
few decades.

With the dearth of cruisers, I can see, in a certain sense, why they
started naming subs after cities -- but then, if they hadn't named
some cruisers after states, they could have named THOSE after cities,
and if they hadn't started the extraordinarily tacky process of naming
carriers after people (that's what DD's and FF's are for, after all),
they could have named them after battles, freeing up all those Tico's
for real cruiser names....

Scott Orr

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Actually, the initial 12 688's (flight 1 boats) were named after the
cities of the congressmen whose votes were needed to build the the
first 688's.  I know, I know, Congressmen represent states. They chose
large cities from the represented state.

Kevin

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Can anyone tell me if Agosta and Daphne class SS's can cross the Atlantic
on patrol?  I know d-e subs used to during WW-II and that Soviet ones
used to hang around off of Iceland etc.  But what about in modern nuclear
boat dominated times?

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Yes they can, the Agosta has an endurance of 8500nmi at 9 kts (transit while
snorkeling and approx 350nmi at 3 kts submerged) and the Daphne has an
endurance of 10000 nmi at 7 kts or 2700 at 12.5 kts. The modern D/E are more
capable than the WW2 vintage submarines.

        I don't know about the CWO-5, did the guy who told you that
        ever ask to get a bottle of relative bearing greese;-)

        The U.S. Navy (I think) the LDO are comssioned for skills such
        as Helo flying. the Warrant Officers are very senior NCOs.

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Anthony E. Sterrett (sterr...@nosc.mil) wrote:
: >> There is now a CWO(5) grade.
: >understand why the Navy filled the Warrent Officer ranks when they also
: >had LDO's (Limited Duty Officer).  I was an Airdale and saw a number of
: >LDO's at Pt. Mugu, but only a couple of CWO's.  BTW, I NEVER saw a W-1.
: >Does the Navy even use the W-1 rank?  One other comment, as of about
: >four years ago an Air Farce type told me that the Air Farce did away
: >with the warrent officer ranks.
: >
:       I don't know about the CWO-5, did the guy who told you that
:       ever ask to get a bottle of relative bearing greese;-)

:       The U.S. Navy (I think) the LDO are comssioned for skills such
:       as Helo flying. the Warrant Officers are very senior NCOs.

:               Jaya SriSri RadhaKrishna!
:               Nkosi sikelel'iAfrika
: --Red Wings,Pistons Rule, Tigers Rule, Lions Rule!-----------------

: >Scott E. Farleigh (formerly PR-2)
: >------------------------------------------------------------------------
: >Rule #1:  DO NOT piss-off a rigger

According to the most recent pay scales for U.S. Military, there is no
W-5, only 1 through 4.  I have seen W-1 Ordnance (Gunner) and optechs
(Bos'n).  The rank is referred to as Non-Commissioned Warrant Officer, or
WO-1.  W-2 through W-5 are referred to (in the Navy) as Chief Warrant
Officer, and their rank is given as Commissioned Warrant Officer.  The
W-1 hats don't have the eagle on them, only fouled anchors with a
national shield in front, and gold chinstrap.  CWOs have the Commission
badge, with the spread eagle.

Warrant Officers were originally used as technical experts assigned to
the Wardroom.  Their original function in the wardroom was the same as
the Chief's is nowadays -- technical expert or engineer for a particular
ship function.  

The status of commissioned has legal implications with regard to
signature authority, command eligiblity (i.e., "officer eligible for
command at sea), perquisites, and discharge and retirement benefits.  

By the way, aviators are not normally LDOs.  They are usually reserve
line officers with aviation specialty, but are eligible for command at
sea, which LDOs are not.  All CV commanders are aviators.

George Pinkham