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Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

atlas-bug...@invalid.invalid (Malcom Mal Reynolds) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 05:58:45 UT

In article
<93ee764a-0400-499b-b519-37e47 ef04416@v2
5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Actually I was thinking of what they do
at the launch pad during launch, not the
tiles on the shuttle

Heightening turmoil in Andhra Pardesh, India over Telangana issue: Demand for a separate state

pakistan...@gmail.com (PakistanPal) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 05:31:12 UT

Times of India
[link]
HYDERABAD: The health of fasting TRS chief K Chandrasekhar Rao is
deteriorating and he urgently needs oral feed, a medical bulletin said
on Wednesday, PTI reported.
55-year-old Rao, whose indefinite fast for creation of a separate
Telengana state entered the 11th day, is “refusing intravenous

Question for Froggie: Do you think this could work? (paper batteries)

nilita2004nos...@yahoo.com (La N) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 05:27:03 UT

[link]
Scientists say paper battery could be in the works
Thu Dec 10, 9:47 am ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Ordinary paper could one day be used as a lightweight
battery to power the devices that are now enabling the printed word to be
eclipsed by e-mail, e-books and online news.

Re: Proposal for Small Business IP program to create jobs

jya...@abuse.gov (Jim Yanik) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 05:08:00 UT

Mark Borgerson <mborger...@comcast.net> wrote in
what's the point of doling out TARP funds to small business start-ups if
the Government is just going to tax and regulate them to death?
the proposed healthcare tax and penalty provisions put a huge damper on
small businesses.Then just wait for the EPA regulating CO2 and

Re: Force the data to fit

dboh...@mindspring.com (Frogwatch) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 05:03:24 UT

Ya know Jack, I'd even trust you to read a digital thermometer. Don't
you read your electric meter?

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

jya...@abuse.gov (Jim Yanik) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 05:01:39 UT

Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote in
Gun control does NOT "deter" criminals from getting guns.Only "goofballs"
believe that.
I note Japan,UK,and Mexico all have strict gun control,yet criminals in all
of them still get guns,and people in those nations still get robbed with or
shot by guns. The Yakuza make a BUSINESS of gun-running.In UK,they drive

Re: Force the data to fit

dboh...@mindspring.com (Frogwatch) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 04:53:41 UT

On Dec 10, 5:44 pm, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Uh, Jack, how sophisticated is a thermometer? Really, try to buy a
sophisticated thermometer.

Re: Proposal for Small Business IP program to create jobs

dboh...@mindspring.com (Frogwatch) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 04:51:06 UT

Mark:
Reviewing of Phase I SBIR is not too impressive and does not take
long. I have sat in the same room as reviews were done (they did not
know I was there). 30% are immedietly rejected fir failing to follow
directions (amazing but true). Another third can be immedietly
rejected for being too unclear to interpret. It is the remaining 30%

Re: Spiral light over Norway

spk_...@msn.com (BlackBeard) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 04:43:15 UT

OK, so the missile was traveling right to left across the sky. Then
it's path stopped and for several minutes stayed stationary and pin-
wheeled. If not it diverted 90 degrees- away and maintained it for
some time( accounting for the aspect change.) Of course, eye-witness
accounts (yes, I know how reliable they are) say the spiral appeared

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

fjmcc...@gmail.com (Fred J. McCall) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:44:12 UT

Actually, I think you'll find that a lot of people who are gun-rights
advocates would quite happily go along with that approach. They're in
favour of people having rights and personal responsibility, after all.

Re: Spiral light over Norway

fjmcc...@gmail.com (Fred J. McCall) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:37:57 UT

The path of the missile before it malfunctioned and started spinning.

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

d...@coldine.edu (Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:36:57 UT

"Yanick" was lying...gun goofball fear mongering
;-)

Re: Proposal for Small Business IP program to create jobs

fjmcc...@gmail.com (Fred J. McCall) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:34:35 UT

Leave it to RayRay to *really* not understand what's going on and what
will happen as a result of it.

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

fjmcc...@gmail.com (Fred J. McCall) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:32:31 UT

See what I mean?
No, it's just what I equate with being grown up. Get back to us if
you ever do.

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

fjmcc...@gmail.com (Fred J. McCall) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:30:54 UT

Nobody said it was 'acceptable', you stupid, lying twat. Merely that
it doesn't constitute an 'attack' on those people.
Don't bet your mortgage on it.
No, you just failed to get the point and then started lying about it.
<yawn>
Show me some evidence that you're on the same planet as the sane
people.

Re: Spiral light over Norway

fjmcc...@gmail.com (Fred J. McCall) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:25:54 UT

It's HAARP!!!!!!! :-)

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

r_c_br...@hushmail.com (r_c_brown@hushmail.com) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:26:16 UT

Absolutely.
Well, I'm a firearm rights advocate, so I guess that you would label
me as right-wing. :-)
Anyway, why not try the approach that both you and I agree is
superior? Just because it isn't as easy as the incorrect approach
doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done.

Re: Proposal for Small Business IP program to create jobs

fjmcc...@gmail.com (Fred J. McCall) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:25:11 UT

I've been saying that since Obama got elected (but for different
reasons than you, I'm sure). Nice that you caught up only a year
late.
Their *WHAT*? It doesn't take 'party discipline' to vote against bad
ideas, RayRay.
And you've just shown how clueless you are. There are more than three
and 'christian right' (whether you capitalize it or not) isn't one of

Re: Day Fourteen and Counting - Networks? Silence on ClimateGate

fjmcc...@gmail.com (Fred J. McCall) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 03:12:00 UT

Hell, I thought it was all George Bush's fault and that's why anything
that goes wrong isn't Obama's fault.

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

d...@coldine.edu (Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 02:43:33 UT

...gun goofballs insist that since some people get heroin, then no law deters anyone.
i.e. they don't know what "deter" means...and they're goofballs
QED.
;-)

Re: Anti-War Up - Resisting Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) recall

d...@coldine.edu (Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 02:22:58 UT

Sir, thank you for this *excellent* article on resisting.
Courage to Resist 510-488-3559

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

tre...@spamblockrageaudio.com.au (Trevor Wilson) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 02:09:12 UT

**"Increasingly violent crime"? Prove it. Cite your data and source.

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

use...@jac.users.panix.com (John Clear) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 01:34:29 UT

In article <ba83eea9-016a-4181-8eb4-677ff e95d...@l13g2000yqb.googlegrou ps.com>,
Yeah, the blankets on the top top arent't as heat resistant as the
tiles, but I don't think MV-22 or F-35B exhaust is quite as hot as
hitting the atmosphere at 17,000mph.
Wiki says one type of blanket (FRSI) is good to 700F and another (FIB)

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

dhssresearc...@netscape.net (frank) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 00:09:56 UT

Pray tell, young Skywalker, what type of electronics have you designed
that has a few thousands pounds of metal land on it, controlled by a
navel aviatrix, blasting used JP4 and other noxious and profane gasses
as high speeds and easily a thousand degrees of the Farenheits? I'm
getting a case of beer and a lot of popcorn, this is going to be a

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

dhssresearc...@netscape.net (frank) — Fri, 11 dez 2009 00:05:56 UT

we don't care. we just go to Congress and say 'you need to support the
troops'. billion here, billion there. what, the electronics goes on
the other end of the airplane???
ka-ching........

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

dhssresearc...@netscape.net (frank) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:59:24 UT

Learn that steam burns, did you? Let me guess, you're an engineer.

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

dhssresearc...@netscape.net (frank) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:57:07 UT

Still not really durable enough to handle aircraft weight. Was less
heat resistant than bottom portion. Think of it this way, bottom part
gets really hot on reentry, shields top part. You could see some
scorch marks on most of the post landing photos. Looks like little
black scuff marks on foreward part near wing.

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

dhssresearc...@netscape.net (frank) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:50:38 UT

Last company that did that was in upstate NY. It closed in the last 4
years or so. It was sold to.....drum roll.....China.

Re: China's sixth-generation fighter aircraft design based on nuclear propulsion

dhssresearc...@netscape.net (frank) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:45:29 UT

On Dec 10, 11:33 am, Jeff Dougherty <dougherty.jeff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
ARRGH, and to keep it topical was probably pirated....

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net (Scout) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 21:55:45 UT

Sorry, but you can't deny that option to criminals. Criminals WILL get guns
if they want them, and history shows no ban in the history of the world has
ever kept criminals from getting guns.
Well in the UK alone the number of illegal guns is reported to have gone
from 3 Million to 4 Million in just 2 years and without having to confront

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

daniel.c.bertr...@gmail.com (Daniel) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:20:12 UT

Hopefully, the airflow would be colder than what's required to start a
wildfire. Missing adequate structural expansion joints, the workaround
would be reflective coating and/or increasing thermal inertia with a
few tons of liquids trapped between the deck and a lining. Other
standard solutions include:

Re: Su-30s Got A Little MiG In Them

froni...@gmail.com (mkf) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:18:52 UT

And this F-117 has a ****load of MiG in it...

Re: Spiral light over Norway

tsalagi18nos...@hotmail.com (Dennis) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:17:02 UT

Reminds me of the old saying -
Doctors' mistakes are in the cemetary,
Lawyers' mistakes are in jail,
Preachers' mistakes are in hell, but
Engineers' mistakes stay right out where everyone can see them!
To that we might add:
Missile engineers's mistakes are all over the Net!
Dennis

Re: Su-30s Got A Little MiG In Them

william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk (William Black) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:14:50 UT

Ron wrote:
While I'm sure the Indian military authorities would love to make an
incident like that disappear, I very much doubt the Indian press would.

Re: One shipyard still builds privateers

william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk (William Black) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:11:52 UT

He died in bed, after spending his final years drinking with his mates,
all of whom were probably due to be hanged and all of whom had got
away with it.
It's how he would have wanted to go...
He also found time in this period to sue the man who wrote the book that
made him famous, and got �200 pound in damages, which was a very

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

b...@iphouse.com (Bert Hyman) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:10:55 UT

In news:q62dnawvz-TU5rzWnZ2dnUVZ_g4AAAAA@supernews.com "Dr. Vincent
You're apparently as much a jerk as the OP.
People simply "insisted" on their rights.

The concept you're searching for is "punishment for an actual crime."

Who was "deterred" by alcohol prohibition? Who's being deterred by the
War on (Some) Drugs?

Re: Fred, one of yours?

tsalagi18nos...@hotmail.com (Dennis) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:10:25 UT

Hm. Do they have to do that literally, as sometimes happens, or just
symbollically?
[link]
Islamic law
"In traditional Islamic law, someone who suckles the breast of a
woman is that woman's child, either biologically or through a foster
relationship. However, according the Jurist Abu's-Su`ud (c.1490�1574), this

Re: Fred, one of yours?

tsalagi18nos...@hotmail.com (Dennis) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 23:03:37 UT

My understanding is that a "fatwa" is what we in the West would call
an "amicus curiae brief," an informed opinion that helps an Islamic court
reach a decision. I don't think it's binding.
I know what you mean. I just meant that that sort of thing is more
likely in a shame-based culture than a guilt-based one like Western ones.

Re: Spiral light over Norway

spk_...@msn.com (BlackBeard) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:52:47 UT

Well, I'm in the " wow, great laser show, dude" crowd of one.
BB

Re: Pearl Harbor mini-submarine mystery solved?

raymond-oh...@hotmail.com (Ray O'Hara) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:52:16 UT

A Japanese passenger who survived the Titanic sinking was shunned as a
disgrace when he got back home.

SUBJ/SECNAV HOLIDAY MESSAGE TO THE FLEET//

themilitaryto...@pacbell.net (Otis Willie PIO The American War Library) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:51:06 UT

SUBJ/SECNAV HOLIDAY MESSAGE TO THE FLEET//
[link]
{EXCERPT} RMKS/1. THE HOLIDAY SEASON IS NORMALLY THOUGHT OF AS A TIME FOR CELEBRATION WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY, BUT FOR MANY IN THE NAVY AND MARINE CORPS ? IT IS ANOTHER WEEK OR MONTH ON DUTY, PROTECTING THE COUNTRY FAR AWAY FROM HOME.

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

d...@coldine.edu (Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:50:44 UT

True, Prohibition was a disaster, as people insisted on their "right" to drive drunk.
Thankfully, we have better laws today, deterring many from driving drunk.
the word gun goofballs can't understand...deterring
;-)

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

d...@coldine.edu (Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:50:22 UT

more nonsense...fear mongering...this stuff is extremely rarely, if ever, done by criminals.
;-)

Re: SUBSCOL dedicates Submarine Escape Trainer

wb8...@panix.com (David Lesher) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:47:14 UT

At one point Koch Oil's refinery managed to burn down their CO2 plant....
We never figgured it out, either...

Re: Force the data to fit

jacklinthi...@earthlink.net (Jack Linthicum) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:44:01 UT

An amateur? Be serious. All those measurements are made with
sophisticated equipment such as you make. Would you take the research
of someone who did a homemade version of one of your prizes over a
customer?

Re: Force the data to fit

skelt...@cogeco.ca (Peter Skelton) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:41:04 UT

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:14:01 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
I believe Arved gave you a clue there. Cherry-picking analysis to
suit pre-conceived notions generally bites you in the ass.
Peter Skelton

Re: Spiral light over Norway

nilita2004nos...@yahoo.com (La N) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:40:17 UT

Mr. Lothian. Have you thought of researching the Book of Revelation to see
if there is any mention of this? We could be experiencing end times,
although my money is on 2012.
- nilita

Military dolphins to guard naval base

themilitaryto...@pacbell.net (Otis Willie PIO The American War Library) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:39:39 UT

Military dolphins to guard naval base
[link]" id
{EXCERPT} Mother Nature Network The program, which was also used during the Vietnam War, is part of a 40-year history of military -trained dolphins and sea lions. According to the Navy,...

Navy christens newest Virginia-class submarine Missouri

themilitaryto...@pacbell.net (Otis Willie PIO The American War Library) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:39:39 UT

Navy christens newest Virginia-class submarine Missouri
[link]" id
{EXCERPT} The Dolphin With the spray of bubbly from a champagne bottle, PCU Missouri (SSN 780), the Navy's newest Virginia-class attack submarine, was christened during a late...

Re: Spiral light over Norway

alanloth...@mac.com (Alan Lothian) — Thu, 10 dez 2009 22:33:44 UT

In article
<1015515a-7526-4166-a16a-1de7e 72f1...@v7g2000pro.googlegroup s.com>,
Ah, Sean. They are all just UFO deniers. We know the Truth. And the
Truth will Fret us See. Something like that.

sci.military.naval Google Group

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

Heightening turmoil in Andhra Pardesh, India over Telangana issue: Demand for a separate state

Question for Froggie: Do you think *this* could work? (paper batteries)

Re: Proposal for Small Business IP program to create jobs

Re: Force the data to fit

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: Force the data to fit

Re: Proposal for Small Business IP program to create jobs

Re: Spiral light over Norway

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: Spiral light over Norway

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: Proposal for Small Business IP program to create jobs

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: Spiral light over Norway

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: Proposal for Small Business IP program to create jobs

Re: Day Fourteen and Counting - Networks? Silence on ClimateGate

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: Anti-War Up - Resisting Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) recall

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

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Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

Re: China's sixth-generation fighter aircraft design based on nuclear propulsion

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: The Melting Deck Plates Muddle - V-22 on LHD deck....

Re: Su-30s Got A Little MiG In Them

Re: Spiral light over Norway

Re: Su-30s Got A Little MiG In Them

Re: One shipyard still builds privateers

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: Fred, one of yours?

Re: Fred, one of yours?

Re: Spiral light over Norway

Re: Pearl Harbor mini-submarine mystery solved?

SUBJ/SECNAV HOLIDAY MESSAGE TO THE FLEET//

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: The gun goofball philosophy ;-)

Re: SUBSCOL dedicates Submarine Escape Trainer

Re: Force the data to fit

Re: Force the data to fit

Re: Spiral light over Norway

Military dolphins to guard naval base

Navy christens newest Virginia-class submarine Missouri

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Question for Froggie: Do you think this could work? (paper batteries)