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La N wrote: > William Black wrote: >> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>> He would still be the same non-existant leadership and Marxist twit.
>> You don't know what a Marxist is do you.
>> If you did you wouldn't type such twaddle.
> Ya think? And yet an incredible number of Americans believe that Obama is a > Marxist. It boggles the mind.
I blame their system of education.
It seems to be very unsophisticated politically
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
> La N wrote: >> William Black wrote: >>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>> He would still be the same non-existant leadership and Marxist >>>> twit.
>>> You don't know what a Marxist is do you.
>>> If you did you wouldn't type such twaddle.
>> Ya think? And yet an incredible number of Americans believe that >> Obama is a Marxist. It boggles the mind.
> I blame their system of education.
> It seems to be very unsophisticated politically
AIUI, the systems in the U.S. and Canada don't deal with ideology until the post-secondary level, and few students bother with poli-sci (I know I didn't except for an intro course). Marxist analysis is démodé (post- structuralism would seem to be the flavour of the age) and seems only to be taught in seminars. -- Andrew Chaplin SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
> : > :"Fred J. McCall" <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote in message > :news:tefcf5ddeb3v8i6vjb0de3i7c21ri9ag5k@4ax.com... > :> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote: > :> > :> : > :> :"Fred J. McCall" <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote in message > :> :news:fmsbf5hbjnb5dfs6680scj8i5gof2nsm2k@4ax.com... > :> :> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote: > :> :> > :> :> : > :> :> : he attracted the FBI with internet rants. defending suicide > bombers. > :> :> :it shows how desperate the military is to keep people. > :> :> : > :> :> > :> :> Oh, horseshit. You can't cashier an officer because you don't like > :> :> his opinions, Ray. I'm sure if they had you would be first in line > :> :> screaming about how it was prejudice because he was a Muslim. > :> :> > :> :> Here comes the Loony Left, and so the spin begins. > :> :> > :> : > :> : being a muslim is one thing, publicly defending suicide bombers is > :> :something else. > :> : > :> > :> Has anyone pointed out that you're insane, Mr O'Hara? > :> > :> It's the only explanation I can find for that remark. One more time: > :> You cannot cashier an officer for their opinions. > :> > : > : yes you can . > :
> No, you can't.
> : > :being in the military deprives you are several rights. > :
> And you know this from your many years in the military, do you, Ray? > Get back to me when you've worn some uniform other than 'fast food > waiter'.
> : > :and advocating attacks on Americans is not cool. > :
> No, it's not, but it would take pretty specific circumstances for it > to be actionable.
> : > :criticizing your superiors in public will get you bounced too. > :
> Don't be silly. The only person who ever tried that shit was Clinton.
Cite about Clinton. and tell Billy Mitchell it was okay for him to mouth off, to name a famous case.
William Black wrote: > La N wrote: >> William Black wrote: >>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>> He would still be the same non-existant leadership and Marxist >>>> twit. >>> You don't know what a Marxist is do you.
>>> If you did you wouldn't type such twaddle.
>> Ya think? And yet an incredible number of Americans believe that >> Obama is a Marxist. It boggles the mind.
> I blame their system of education.
> It seems to be very unsophisticated politically
If Obama is "Marxist", then Canada's current Conservative Party Prime Minister is "Marxist". Sheesh. I don't know that is lack of education on their part so much as fear. Americans tend to be conservative in their mindset. With this conservatism comes fear of (dramatic) change. OTOH, I keep hearing these conservative (right-wing) Americans utilizing the "Where is the change Obama promised" mantra as among their justifications to bring him down. From an outsider's POV, it's an interesting phenomenon.
> William Black wrote: > > La N wrote: > >> William Black wrote: > >>> Jim Yanik wrote:
> >>>> He would still be the same non-existant leadership and Marxist > >>>> twit. > >>> You don't know what a Marxist is do you.
> >>> If you did you wouldn't type such twaddle.
> >> Ya think? And yet an incredible number of Americans believe that > >> Obama is a Marxist. It boggles the mind.
> > I blame their system of education.
> > It seems to be very unsophisticated politically
> If Obama is "Marxist", then Canada's current Conservative Party Prime > Minister is "Marxist". Sheesh. I don't know that is lack of education on > their part so much as fear. Americans tend to be conservative in their > mindset. With this conservatism comes fear of (dramatic) change. OTOH, I > keep hearing these conservative (right-wing) Americans utilizing the "Where > is the change Obama promised" mantra as among their justifications to bring > him down. From an outsider's POV, it's an interesting phenomenon.
> - nilita
"Liberal" lost its punch, "Marxist" has a nice historical ring to it.
Jack Linthicum wrote: > On Nov 8, 11:26 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> William Black wrote: >>> La N wrote: >>>> William Black wrote: >>>>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>>>> He would still be the same non-existant leadership and Marxist >>>>>> twit. >>>>> You don't know what a Marxist is do you.
>>>>> If you did you wouldn't type such twaddle.
>>>> Ya think? And yet an incredible number of Americans believe that >>>> Obama is a Marxist. It boggles the mind.
>>> I blame their system of education.
>>> It seems to be very unsophisticated politically
>> If Obama is "Marxist", then Canada's current Conservative Party Prime >> Minister is "Marxist". Sheesh. I don't know that is lack of >> education on their part so much as fear. Americans tend to be >> conservative in their mindset. With this conservatism comes fear of >> (dramatic) change. OTOH, I keep hearing these conservative >> (right-wing) Americans utilizing the "Where is the change Obama >> promised" mantra as among their justifications to bring him down. >> From an outsider's POV, it's an interesting phenomenon.
>> - nilita
> "Liberal" lost its punch, "Marxist" has a nice historical ring to it.
Yes, it installs even *more* fear in the minds of those afraid of "liberals".
>>> He would still be the same non-existant leadership and Marxist twit.
>> You don't know what a Marxist is do you.
>> If you did you wouldn't type such twaddle.
> Ya think? And yet an incredible number of Americans believe that Obama is > a Marxist. It boggles the mind.
> - nilita
no, a vocal minority who listen to Faux news think that. but they make for good TV bites so their effect and numbers are exagerated.
and as for Dithering, Cheney admitted at the same dinner he accused Obama of taking too much time on Afghanistan that his administration didn't put much thought into the war until the FALL OF 2008. so who exactly were the ditherers? republicans are liars. pure and simple.
> : > :Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were unrelated > :to him being a muslim? > :
> I think they probably weren't related at all. However, when embarking > on what is essentially 'suicide by cop', is it surprising that he > would try to make himself right with his god?
everything about this guy relates to his being a Muslim. if he was a Christian or an Athiest he wouldn't have had any of the issues that pushed him over the edge.
> : > :btw, if a civilian had been tracked for such postings, as allegedly this > :doctor had, that civilian would no doubt be put on the DO NOT FLY list. > :
> Oh, would they now? Cite for this rather preposterous claim?
> <loony remarks elided>
where have you been since 9/11 Fred.? who do you think gets on do not fly lists?
Ray O'Hara wrote: > "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OpBJm.51955$PH1.26037@edtnps82... >> William Black wrote: >>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>> He would still be the same non-existant leadership and Marxist >>>> twit.
>>> You don't know what a Marxist is do you.
>>> If you did you wouldn't type such twaddle.
>> Ya think? And yet an incredible number of Americans believe that >> Obama is a Marxist. It boggles the mind.
>> - nilita
> no, a vocal minority who listen to Faux news think that. > but they make for good TV bites so their effect and numbers are > exagerated.
FOX News is the No. 1 (read that: top rated) cable news network in the US. That does not sound like a small "minority" of Americans.
>>> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were >>> unrelated to him being a muslim?
>> I think they probably weren't related at all. However, when >> embarking on what is essentially 'suicide by cop', is it surprising >> that he would try to make himself right with his god?
> everything about this guy relates to his being a Muslim. > if he was a Christian or an Athiest he wouldn't have had any of the > issues that pushed him over the edge.
There is no way to know. Unless he comes right out and tells you. And I don't think he is prepared to do that.
> William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> :Fred J. McCall wrote: > :> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: > :> > :> :Frogwatch wrote: > :> :> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > :> :> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about > how > :> :> evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a > :> :> talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be > decapitated > :> :> and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq > :> :> due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh > :> :> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > :> :> things in the USA. > :> :> > :> :> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > :> :> to religion"? > :> : > :> :ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI > not have > :> :the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so desperate for > :> :shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > :> :counselling people who were suffering from PTSD? > :> : > :> > :> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his opinions, > :> Nilita. Not in this country, you can't. > :> > : > :Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good order > :and discipline'. > :
> Yes, but expressing what are essentially political and religious > opinions on your own time isn't considered to be such an action.
> : > :Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, > :for example, writing letters highly critical of operations or > :personalities or policies? > :
> Given the list of people who have been critical of things here, I > suspect our line for that is quite different from yours.
defending the acts of the enemy and advocating suicide bombings is not expressing religious belief. and Religious beliefs have limits, advocating human sacrifice or underage sex gets you in trouble. the fringe Mormon leader Rulon Jeffs was chased all over and his son Rulon Jeffs was just sentenced to 10 years in prison for "ading and abetting" underage sex with girls who were married to older men they claim this is a religious right and biblically sanctioned. all "rights" have limits.Property rights? hah! don't pay your taxwes and see what you "own".
>> : >> :Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were unrelated >> :to him being a muslim? >> :
>> I think they probably weren't related at all. However, when embarking >> on what is essentially 'suicide by cop', is it surprising that he >> would try to make himself right with his god?
> everything about this guy relates to his being a Muslim. > if he was a Christian or an Athiest he wouldn't have had any of the issues > that pushed him over the edge.
He could be a deep cover long term sleeper.
In which case he's performed admirably for his masters...
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
> > La N wrote: > >> tankfixer wrote: > ><SNIP> > >>> Speaking of that role.. > >>> When will he start filling it ?
> >> Tanky, there is nothing Obama could do or say that would make you > >> happy.
> > What about switching from being Democrat to being Republican? :^)
> At least the Republicans know who our friends and enemies are; > who to support and who to oppose. > Obama supports our enemies and opposes our friends.
> -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik > at > localnet > dot com
Yeah I like your concept of circular firing squads and how you're eating your young. How about the NY race? or how the governorship is shaping up in Texas. Jeez, that's going to be about as funny as Kinky Freedman running for governor. And you know what, the state is in such a mess I wished he would have won.
Eugene Griessel wrote: >>There is some sort of law that says you have to say "suspected" until >>the perp is convicted. Something tied to the "innocent until proven >>guilty" concept. It sounds funny but prior to this interpretation the >>press could rail on about the "guilty" party until the trial found him >>or her innocent.
Point conceded. Innocent people get labeled by the press as guilty all the time.
> We live in a crazy world where the current overriding sin seems to be > the causing of offence to anyone. I was recently reading that Wiccans > are upset by Halloween as they find it "offensive". Jawel no fine. I > am trying to propagate the concept that I find it offensive that woman > use the word "no" - so far with complete lack of success. Sigh.
Item 2 in Bill of Non-Rights:
"You do not have the right to never be offended. In this country, freedom of speech is a constitutionally guaranteed right for everyone, not just you. You may express a different opinion, change channels, leave the room, etc.; but the world is full of idiots and probably always will be."
To which I add -
"Somedays you're the village, somedays you're the idiot!"
> Ray O'Hara wrote: >> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:OpBJm.51955$PH1.26037@edtnps82... >>> William Black wrote: >>>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>>> He would still be the same non-existant leadership and Marxist >>>>> twit.
>>>> You don't know what a Marxist is do you.
>>>> If you did you wouldn't type such twaddle.
>>> Ya think? And yet an incredible number of Americans believe that >>> Obama is a Marxist. It boggles the mind.
>>> - nilita
>> no, a vocal minority who listen to Faux news think that. >> but they make for good TV bites so their effect and numbers are >> exagerated.
> FOX News is the No. 1 (read that: top rated) cable news network in the US. > That does not sound like a small "minority" of Americans.
. you're talking at best 3% of TV viewers and Faux has the highest negatives among all viewers. all the nuts go to Faux while the rational people are split.among the Broadcast networks MSNBC and CNN. so number 1 cable news still doesn't get many viewers all the cable news trail ESPN by a good margin.
> > La N wrote: > >> tankfixer wrote: > ><SNIP> > >>> Speaking of that role.. > >>> When will he start filling it ?
> >> Tanky, there is nothing Obama could do or say that would make you > >> happy.
> > What about switching from being Democrat to being Republican? :^)
> At least the Republicans know who our friends and enemies are; > who to support and who to oppose. > Obama supports our enemies and opposes our friends.
> -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik > at > localnet > dot com
Yeah I like your concept of circular firing squads and how you're eating your young. How about the NY race? or how the governorship is shaping up in Texas. Jeez, that's going to be about as funny as Kinky Freedman running for governor. And you know what, the state is in such a mess I wished he would have won.
>>>> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were >>>> unrelated to him being a muslim?
>>> I think they probably weren't related at all. However, when >>> embarking on what is essentially 'suicide by cop', is it surprising >>> that he would try to make himself right with his god?
>> everything about this guy relates to his being a Muslim. >> if he was a Christian or an Athiest he wouldn't have had any of the >> issues that pushed him over the edge.
> There is no way to know. Unless he comes right out and tells you. And I > don't think he is prepared to do that.
a christian wouldn't believe that we are "making war on Islam" they think we are making war on christmas.
> >> Frogwatch wrote: > >>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > >>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about > >>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He > >>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be > >>> decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get > >>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he > >>> yells, "Allahuh Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious > >>> nuts doing similar things in the USA.
> >>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > >>> to religion"?
> >> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI > >> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH???
> > Due process ? > > Sloppyness ? > > Just two explinations..
> That's a start ...
> >> Are the military so desperate for > >> shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > >> counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
> > In charge of ? > > I doubt this fellow was in charge of anything.
> He was in charge of his case load. He was in charge of providing mental > health support and counselling including dispensation of psychotropic > medication, to his clients. That's a helluvalot to be in charge of. > Somebody(ies) authorized him to do that.
He was responsable for the care he provided. But he was not "in charge of" anything.
> >> Frogwatch wrote: > >>> On Nov 7, 5:59 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>>> Jack Linthicum wrote:
> >>>>>> On Nov 7, 5:19 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> On Nov 7, 5:17 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Fred J. McCall wrote: > >>>>>>>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Frogwatch wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who > >>>>>>>>>>> tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly > >>>>>>>>>>> rants about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and > >>>>>>>>>>> Afghanistan are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about > >>>>>>>>>>> how unbelievers should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for > >>>>>>>>>>> advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq due to > >>>>>>>>>>> religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh > >>>>>>>>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing > >>>>>>>>>>> similar things in the USA.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be > >>>>>>>>>>> related to religion"?
> >>>>>>>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military > >>>>>>>>>> and/or FBI not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are > >>>>>>>>>> the military so desperate for shrinks that they felt a need > >>>>>>>>>> to maintain this MAJOR in charge of counselling people who > >>>>>>>>>> were suffering from PTSD?
> >>>>>>>>> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his > >>>>>>>>> opinions, Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
> >>>>>>>> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to > >>>>>>>> good order and discipline'.
> >>>>>>>> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving > >>>>>>>> officers, for example, writing letters highly critical of > >>>>>>>> operations or personalities or policies?
> >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> William Black
> >>>>>>>> "Any number under six"
> >>>>>>>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the > >>>>>>>> Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men > >>>>>>>> he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
> >>>>>>> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were > >>>>>>> unrelated to him being a muslim?
> >>>>>> He killed several medical/psychiatric personnel. Were they killed > >>>>>> because he was a Muslim?
> >>>>> Watch. Froggie is going to say that the killer voted for Obama, > >>>>> and that has something to do with it.
> >>>> :<rolling eyes>
> >>>> Watch. Nilita can't address any of the real issues, so she'll keep > >>>> trying to talk about Obama.
> >>>> <your eyes wouldn't roll like that if there was anything behind > >>>> them>
> >>>> -- > >>>> "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar > >>>> territory." > >>>> --G. Behn
> >>> I have not mentioned Obama but LaN somehow brings him into this, an > >>> obsession maybe?
> >> Whether you like it or not, those of you who suffer from Obama > >> Derangement Syndrome (ODS), he *is* the Commander-in-Chief. Only > >> partisans such as yourself(ves) would try to sever him from that > >> role.
> > Speaking of that role.. > > When will he start filling it ?
> Tanky, there is nothing Obama could do or say that would make you happy.
Sure there is, step up and do the job he got elected to do.
The campaign is over, he need to stop running around feuding with media outlets and be the president.
> > >> Frogwatch wrote: > > >>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > > >>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about > > >>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He > > >>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be > > >>> decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get > > >>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he > > >>> yells, "Allahuh Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious > > >>> nuts doing similar things in the USA.
> > >>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > > >>> to religion"?
> > >> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI > > >> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH???
> > > Due process ? > > > Sloppyness ? > > > Just two explinations..
> > That's a start ...
> > >> Are the military so desperate for > > >> shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > > >> counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
> > > In charge of ? > > > I doubt this fellow was in charge of anything.
> > He was in charge of his case load. He was in charge of providing mental > > health support and counselling including dispensation of psychotropic > > medication, to his clients. That's a helluvalot to be in charge of. > > Somebody(ies) authorized him to do that.
> He was responsable for the care he provided. > But he was not "in charge of" anything.
> > > >> Frogwatch wrote: > > > >>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > > > >>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about > > > >>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He > > > >>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be > > > >>> decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get > > > >>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he > > > >>> yells, "Allahuh Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious > > > >>> nuts doing similar things in the USA.
> > > >>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > > > >>> to religion"?
> > > >> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI > > > >> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH???
> > > > Due process ? > > > > Sloppyness ? > > > > Just two explinations..
> > > That's a start ...
> > > >> Are the military so desperate for > > > >> shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > > > >> counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
> > > > In charge of ? > > > > I doubt this fellow was in charge of anything.
> > > He was in charge of his case load. He was in charge of providing mental > > > health support and counselling including dispensation of psychotropic > > > medication, to his clients. That's a helluvalot to be in charge of. > > > Somebody(ies) authorized him to do that.
> > He was responsable for the care he provided. > > But he was not "in charge of" anything.
> You know this?
Fairly certain, given how medical units are organized..
Jack Linthicum wrote: > On Nov 8, 4:46 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> In article <6rtJm.51061$Db2.41977@edtnps83>, >> nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com says...
>>> tankfixer wrote: >>>> In article <I%hJm.50938$Db2.13635@edtnps83>, >>>> nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com says...
>>>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who >>>>>> tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants >>>>>> about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan >>>>>> are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers >>>>>> should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how >>>>>> not to get deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins >>>>>> shooting he yells, "Allahuh Akbar". There is a history of muslim >>>>>> religious nuts doing similar things in the USA.
>>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be >>>>>> related to religion"?
>>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI >>>>> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH???
>>>> Due process ? >>>> Sloppyness ? >>>> Just two explinations..
>>> That's a start ...
>>>>> Are the military so desperate for >>>>> shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of >>>>> counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
>>>> In charge of ? >>>> I doubt this fellow was in charge of anything.
>>> He was in charge of his case load. He was in charge of providing >>> mental health support and counselling including dispensation of >>> psychotropic medication, to his clients. That's a helluvalot to be >>> in charge of. Somebody(ies) authorized him to do that.
>> He was responsable for the care he provided. >> But he was not "in charge of" anything.
> You know this?
When you have designated patients, you are their case manager. You are in charge of the cases that you handle. You are in charge of managing their files, their treatment plans, and followup. Period.
> > > > >> Frogwatch wrote: > > > > >>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > > > > >>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about > > > > >>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He > > > > >>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be > > > > >>> decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get > > > > >>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he > > > > >>> yells, "Allahuh Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious > > > > >>> nuts doing similar things in the USA.
> > > > >>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > > > > >>> to religion"?
> > > > >> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI > > > > >> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH???
> > > > > Due process ? > > > > > Sloppyness ? > > > > > Just two explinations..
> > > > That's a start ...
> > > > >> Are the military so desperate for > > > > >> shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > > > > >> counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
> > > > > In charge of ? > > > > > I doubt this fellow was in charge of anything.
> > > > He was in charge of his case load. He was in charge of providing mental > > > > health support and counselling including dispensation of psychotropic > > > > medication, to his clients. That's a helluvalot to be in charge of. > > > > Somebody(ies) authorized him to do that.
> > > He was responsable for the care he provided. > > > But he was not "in charge of" anything.
> > You know this?
> Fairly certain, given how medical units are organized..
> La N wrote: > > William Black wrote: > >> Jim Yanik wrote:
> >>> He would still be the same non-existant leadership and Marxist twit.
> >> You don't know what a Marxist is do you.
> >> If you did you wouldn't type such twaddle.
> > Ya think? And yet an incredible number of Americans believe that Obama is a > > Marxist. It boggles the mind.
> I blame their system of education.
> It seems to be very unsophisticated politically
What you both are missing is that Marxist is a very dirty word here. I doubt most people that use the term truly believe he is. Just as those that call him a dirty c**k-sucker don't really profess to know of any such encounters or the cleanliness of the moment...
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