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1.  Paul Dalrymple  
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De: "Paul Dalrymple" <PaulE...@worldnet.att.net>
Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: L.A. Notes 7/1/00
July 01, 2000 | Updated 6:44 a.m. PT

Williams, Valdez Put Up a Fight

By VINCE KOWALICK , L.A. Times Staff Writer

Professional boxing in the region has taken a beating in recent months.
Fight cards featuring up-and-coming fighters in four-round bouts have been
few and far between since the last bout was staged at Reseda Country Club in
December 1998.

Robert Valdez and Ron Williams are attempting to change that.

Far from the first promoters to play the local game, Valdez, of Oxnard, and
Williams, of Valencia, aren't exactly going toe-to-toe, nor are they
stablemates.

Both are finding the fight game a challenge, as far as assembling quality
cards while keeping afloat financially.

"We exchange ideas and give each other leads," said Valdez, whose third
program at Sagebrush Cantina in Calabasas is scheduled for July 11.

In recent years, the Country Club and the Woodland Hills Marriott Hotel were
the sites of regular boxing until promoters started taking it on the chin at
the gate.

Undaunted, Williams and Valdez continue to recruit young fighters and stage
small-time shows. Both claim to be gaining momentum.

"Strategically, we're right on target, although I hope to branch out more in
the San Fernando Valley," Williams said. "We do have a captive audience in
the Santa Clarita Valley, while his Oxnard-Sagebrush [program] caters to the
locals there."

Said Valdez: "It doesn't hurt me that Ron is doing his shows. It's really
two different crowds."

Valdez was in attendance last weekend for Williams' third show this year at
the Valencia Hyatt Hotel, an outdoor program that attracted only a modest
crowd, despite a competitive card.

RW Promotions, Williams' fledgling company, has tentatively scheduled its
next show in early September, probably at the Hyatt.

Valdez's Primitive Sports Promotions has held shows in Oxnard, Ventura and
Woodland Hills in the last three years.

Don't expect marquee names or mouth-watering matchups on either promoter's
cards. Valdez's next show will feature an eight-round main event between
featherweights Memo Moreno of Beaumont and Nobuto Honmo of Japan.

Williams' program last week featured a WBC FECAR junior-lightweight title
bout, won by Roger Medal of Pasadena with a 12th-round knockout of Israel
Correa of Oxnard.

That's about as big-time as it gets. But that doesn't mean the bouts aren't
competitive.

* * * *
Juan Ruiz of Santa Clarita, a former soccer player at Hart High, figures to
be a regular attraction on Williams' cards after two performances that
impressed ringside observers.

Ruiz, 20, body-punched his way to a six-round unanimous decision over
formidable Arturo Flores of Pacoima in a junior-featherweight bout. Ruiz
(2-0) handed Flores his first defeat after three victories.

Ruiz delivered a barrage of compact combinations to the midsection, dropping
Flores to one knee in the fifth round with a hard left hook to the body.

* * * *
Lance Whitaker of Granada Hills, a.k.a. "Mount Whitaker" and the WBC
Continental Americas champion, will continue his quest toward the summit of
the heavyweight division against David "Dangerous" Dixon in a 10-round
nontitle bout July 21 at the Regent Las Vegas that will be broadcast on
Showtime.

The fight is billed as a co-feature to the 12-round main event between IBF
Intercontinental champion David Tua and former cruiserweight champion Robert
Daniels.

Whitaker, 20-1 with 17 knockouts, successfully defended his title June 11
with a second-round knockout against overmatched Thomas Williams. The bout
was Whitaker's first since suffering a knee injury while defeating Monte
Barrett for the title last August. It was his second fight since losing to
Lou Savarese in March 1999.

Savarese was flattened by Mike Tyson in 38 seconds last week in Scotland.

"He looked a little stiff, a little scared," Whitaker said of Savarese. "His
hesitancy was definitely there."

Despite his loss by decision to Savarese, Whitaker, who stands 6 feet 8,
claimed he would give the 5-10 Tyson a better match--although he doubted he
will ever fight the former world champion.

Alex Stewart is the only other common opponent of Tyson and Whitaker. Tyson
stopped Stewart in one round in 1990, his second fight after losing his
title to James "Buster" Douglas. Whitaker recorded a seventh-round technical
knockout over Stewart in January 1999 on the undercard of Tyson's knockout
of Francois Botha.

"I'm a totally different fighter [than Savarese]," Whitaker said. "My
strategy would be to keep my jab in front of him. But I don't think it will
ever happen. I think he's pretty much through."


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WBC Super Lightweight Title and Miguel Angel Gonzalez  
1.  Tejay Schwartz  
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De: bermudaschwa...@webtv.net (Tejay Schwartz)
Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: Re: WBC Super Lightweight Title and Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Are u suggesting the WBC somehow isn't fair?

Bermuda Schwartz


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ANNOUNCEMENT  
1.  i cheehuahua  
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Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT

steven reynolds wrote:

> Since we're talking grammar and such and such here: in caps? You want
> all the words in a title to be wearing little hats? I don't know if I
> have the font for that.

LO FREAKIN L x's 100!!!!   Thank God some of you guys in here come with
Wit!

i cheehuahua


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2.  George Singer  
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Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT
<I've written that very post, but since it now runs to 4 megabytes, I
doubt I'll ever send it.>

If you're not joking, P L E A S E send it.


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3.  Robert Phillips  
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De: Robert Phillips <R...@cfl.rr.com>
Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT

Paul Dalrymple wrote:
>     I usually ignore this kind of thread also. But after seeing a popular
> old joke on a mailing list yesterday, I couldn't resist. I'm sure you've
> seen/heard it before. :)
>     You have a redneck student at Harvard who isn't as bright as the
> "intellectual" students

All right, this is driving me crazy.  I'd heard the joke before, but I saw it
again in the past day or two - on a mailing list, I'm sure.  (This version had a
fellow at the U of Texas, where the student told him something about the way
they're taught at "the finest institution of learning," something like that.)
So put me out of my misery, Paul - what mailing list did *you* see it on?  Maybe
it was the same one....

Pie


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About Lennox Lewis not speaking of Tua...  
1.  Brian  
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Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: About Lennox Lewis not speaking of Tua...
I've noticed Lennox hardly ever talks up his fight with Botha which is just
weeks away.  He is weeks away from facing the South African but in interviews he
talks about wanting to "finish" Tyson.  Lennox realizes that he has to crush
Tyson and send him away for good to finish his goal of bringing order to the
heavyweights.  So Tua people and critics of Lennox you should calm down and
prepare to eat some serious crow if Lennox fights Tua this Fall.

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Lewis: I'll Finish Off 'Misfit' Tyson  
1.  Calvin 6S  
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Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: Re: Lewis: I'll Finish Off 'Misfit' Tyson
I would much rather see Tua beat Lewis and then see Tua v. Tyson.  Lewis is not
a finisher.  He's a points man.  If people want Tyson to go away he's gonna
have to be annihilated.  Lewis can't do that.  Tua has more of a chance of
doing that.  He has the heart to win decisively.  Lewis would beat Tyson but it
would go the distance.  And there would always be that public feeling that "if
Tyson just really took it serious he would knock Lewis out".  It's hard to
argue anything when your hero (Tyson) is on the canvas unaware of his
surroundings.

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2.  optik_b  
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Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: Re: Lewis: I'll Finish Off 'Misfit' Tyson
calvi...@aol.com (Calvin 6S) wrote:
>I would much rather see Tua beat Lewis and then see Tua v.

Tyson.  Lewis is not

>a finisher.

Tell that to Golota, Grant, Briggs, Bruno, Ruddock etc etc...

>He's a points man.

Sounds like you only saw his fights with Holyfield where he won
by points.  Lewis can easily outbox most of his opponents but he
has a right hand that can also put most boxers to sleep.

>If people want Tyson to go away
he's gonna
>have to be annihilated.  Lewis can't do that.

Yes he can.  Lewis has bone crunching power.

>  Tua has more of a
chance of
>doing that.  He has the heart to win decisively.

Tua is overweight and fights subpar class B fighters instead of
top competion for the last 2 years.

>  Lewis would
beat Tyson but it
>would go the distance.  And there would always be that public
feeling that "if
>Tyson just really took it serious he would knock Lewis out".
It's hard to
>argue anything when your hero (Tyson) is on the canvas unaware
of his
>surroundings.

The way I see it Tua is such a plodding boxer and relies so much
on his power that he will probably lose a decision to Tyson. Tua
has been behind in nearly all his fights against legit competion.
 He was being outboxed by Rahman before he hit Rahman after the
bell.  Tua's only chance is to win by knockout and he will be
opening himself up to Tyson when he swings for those knockouts.
Tua has a tremendous chin and I would pick him to beat Tyson but
I think Lewis could break Tyson down better.

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I'm back!  
1.  i cheehuahua  
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Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: Re: I'm back!

Ryan Wissow wrote:

> Is K-mart where you bought your hair Weave?
> i cheehuahua

> -My hair is natural, dammit!-

What, do you think I am stupid?!  I know Donkey Tail is natural.

i cheehuahua


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2.  Ryan Wissow  
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De: ryankidsmo...@webtv.net (Ryan Wissow)
Data: 2000/07/01
Assunto: Re: I'm back!
I didnt even mean my comment to be a slam towards Sony. I was just
saying that my new WebTV is from a different company, in addition to
being a newer model terminal, so hopefully this terminal wont have the
same problems as the old one.

Ryan Wissow
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http://members.tripod.com/~kid_smooth/


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