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1.  DNG  
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De: "DNG" <D...@DMT.Sonofon.DK>
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: Michael Dokes.

internet <pwd100 @ widomaker.com> wrote in article
<01bf6bb3$13e29e40$59b360d1@ppppwd100>...

> He was a fast starter, he could punch and he had a good jab and gave
> Holyfield everything he could handle.  He might have been ahead on points
> prior to the knock out to Evander.  He was good but not great and several
> of his best years went out the window due to drug use. He still is a
Former
> hchampion and more than just a foot note in boxing history, currently, he
> is in jail.......   Pat pwd...@widomaker.com

... thanks for sharing these brilliant insights.

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Feb. 6 on FOX  
1.  Dannews  
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Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Feb. 6 on FOX
From America Presents:

CHICAGO FIRE!
HECTOR CAMACHO, JR. & FRES OQUENDO
FEBRUARY 6 -- GRAND VICTORIA CASINO -- FOX SN

        ELGIN, ILL -- Undefeated World Boxing Association - North America super
lightweight champion HECTOR CAMACHO, JR., and undefeated heavyweight contender
FRES OQUENDO, headline a six-bout card, Sunday, February 6, at the Grand
Victoria Casino in Elgin, ILL.  The fight will be televised live nationally on
FOX Sports Net, 7 - 9 p.m. EST.

        Camacho, 26-0 (15 KOs), from Puerto Rico, the WBA's No. 1-rated super
lightweight contender, will be making his first defense of the WBA-North
America title he won last summer at the Grand Victoria Casino.  Camacho will be
taking on two-time world title challenger HAROLD WARREN, 42-11 (20 KOs), from
Corpus Christie, TX., the IBF's and WBO's No. 4-rated contender.

        Camacho has become a fan favorite since being featured on back-to-back world
championship pay-per-view broadcasts during the summer of 1998.  Since then,
his fights have been televised live nationally by FOX and Telemundo garnering
the networks their highest ratings for their respective boxing series
throughout 1999.  Camacho displays the same speed and power that have been a
trademark of his famous namesake father, Hector Camacho, Sr., who captured
world titles in three different weight classes.  Camacho, Jr., captured the
WBA-NA super lightweight title July 10, 1999, with an impressive ninth-round
knockout over Miguel Angel Ruiz.  Six days later, he was back in the ring,
stopping Mike Cooley in two rounds, on the undercard of David Reid's first
world title defense, in Atlantic City.  All-in-all, 1999 proved to be a very
busy year for Camacho, where he won all seven bouts, five by knockout, while
rising to the WBA's mandatory super lightweight challenger position.

        Warren, 42-11 (20 KOs), is one of the division's toughest competitors.  Twice
Warren has challenged for world titles, falling just short each time.  In 1993
he lost a 12-round decision to WBA super featherweight champion Genaro
Hernandez and in 1998 he lost a 12-round decision to Roberto Garcia for the
vacant IBF junior lightweight title.  In between those two bouts, Warren
captured the NABF featherweight and USBA junior lightweight titles over Daryl
Pinckney and John Brown, respectively.  Last June, Warren captured the NABO
lightweight title with a decisive win over David Tetteh.  In his last bout, he
stopped Sandro Marcos in three rounds.

        Oquendo, 16-0 (9 KOs), from Chicago, will rumble with Dale Crowe, 18-2 (11
KOs), from Norwood, OH., in a 10-round bout.

        A former U.S. National Amateur champion, Oquendo has been speaking  softly and
carrying a big stick since turning professional in 1997.  In 1999, Oquendo
methodically stepped up the quality of opposition he faced in the ring, scoring
upset victories over previously unbeaten Duncan Dokiwari, and veteran world
title challengers, Phil Jackson and Bert Cooper, in consecutive bouts, en route
to a 6-0 record for the year.  Against the previously unbeaten Dokiwari,
Oquendo sent the 1996 Olympic super heavyweight bronze medalist to the canvas
for the only time in his professional career.  Now trained by Felix Trinidad,
Sr., Oquendo is on the cusp of becoming a force in the heavyweight division.


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2.  Undisputed  
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Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: Feb. 6 on FOX

>Camacho displays the same speed and power that have been a
>trademark of his famous namesake father, Hector Camacho, Sr., who captured
>world titles in three different weight classes.

So that would be "lots" and "none", respectively?

-Undisputed


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3.  The Sanity Cruzer  
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Undisputed wrote in message ...
>>Camacho displays the same speed and power that have been a
>>trademark of his famous namesake father, Hector Camacho, Sr., who captured
>>world titles in three different weight classes.

>So that would be "lots" and "none", respectively?

Be he got his head rattled by Edwin Rosario, Camacho used to sit-down more
on his punches and they had some authority behind them.  Following his win
over Rosario, Camacho became a safety-first fighter.  And safety-second too.

TSC


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Calzaghe Looking to Steal the Show  
1.  Paul Watkins  
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Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: Calzaghe Looking to Steal the Show
    Lets face facts here,  Joe hasn't fought for a while because he has had a
series
of injuries, there have been unconfirmed reports of surgery. Given these
circumstances
 and a prolonged period of r&r coupled with a fighter who has a very similar
style, it is not
surprising that we witnessed a fight that was less than dazzling.
Joe has proved to me at least that he has all the qualities of a worthy
champion, a chin,
a punch (although not a one shot fighter), speed, accuracy that any sniper would
proud of
and the stamina to fight for 12 full rounds.
It's just a shame he has to fill the boots of great champions like Collins,
Eubank and the
dark destroyer Nigel Benn


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What Makes A Fight Great?  
1.  pdellys  
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Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: What Makes A Fight Great?
I've been reading more rsb than usual lately, and it occurred to me
that we (boxing fans) really have been short-changed by some of the so-
called 'greats' in boxing today. It seems to me that great fighters
should put on great fights...so how come Oscar/Tito, Oscar/Ike,
Lewis/Holyfield and many others that I could mention have been no
better than average club fights, and in lots of cases, much worse?

We've probably become immune to the size of these guys paychecks, but
consider the simple notion that Oscar earns more for one fight than
most men men would earn in *several* lifetimes. They can achieve this
because of the number of PPV buys their bouts attract. Now I don't
think anyone expected the Tyson/Francis bout to be a barnstormer, so
Tyson's millions in this fight(though obscene on an hourly or minute by
minute basis) are just fodder. When I see two of the best welterweights
in the world square off for $10m plus each or whatever, I want to see a
good fight, not vertical freestyle wrestling or roadwork with gloves.

So what makes a fight great? Well for many it's the 'feel' of a fight.
I remember waiting for Hagler/Hearns and Hagler/Leonard on TV, and
feeling a growing anticipation at the arena that seemed to almost come
out of the set. I got a similar feeling with Tyson in his first
incarnation, with Fighting Harada and Famechon in 1968...well you get
the picture. What do I get now when I watch Oscar step into the ring?
A fear that I've just wasted some of my elusive sponduliks. At least
with Tyson you can rightly anticipate *something* will happen that will
justify your viewing...a KO, a broken ankle, a maiming...whatever.

So, once the anticipation is done with, what is going to define a fight
as great? It need not be a KO, it need not be a shut-out. Some of the
greatest fights of all time have been close, hard fought decisions.
I think it has to do with will...when both fighters have an unquenchable
thirst for victory, but chances are only one will emerge the victor.
This, for me at least, is the essence of a great fight. It can probably
be well described by opposite example...like...Henry Akinwande. Who
would pay to see this chump fight? Bruce Seldon is another spiritless
wonder. I'm sure you have your own list. What was that, TSC?? Chris
B*rd you say? Maybe....

Now let me tell you what I think is the best fight I've seen in the
last 10 years. There was no title at stake, the fighters were
not 'great' in the common sense of the term and there was no KO.
Hell, there really was virtually no anticipation at all...yet I sat
riveted to my seat as these two guys just hit each other with
everything they possibly could, right up until the final bell, and
neither gave an inch. Whoahhhh....what a fight!!!!!

If you haven't seen Troy Dorsey v Rudy Zavala, do so. But do so before
you buy your next PPV, OK?

Peter D

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2.  The Sanity Cruzer  
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Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: What Makes A Fight Great?

pdel...@hotmail.com wrote in message <8768kd$4b...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>...so how come Oscar/Tito, Oscar/Ike,
>Lewis/Holyfield and many others that I could mention have been no
>better than average club fights, and in lots of cases, much worse?

I say, it's because they fight 'not to lose'.  They don't really fight to
beat the other fighter often, but to get the "W" and avoid getting hurt.  I
can't blame a guy for not wanting to get hurt, but if Oscar wants to kick
overmatched and little guys' asses and play safety first against real
competition, he sure as shit won't get my money. Oscar "Next time I'm going
to be a warrior" de la Hoya.  Yeah, he'll do it when he fights a guy he
knows cannot hurt him.

>When I see two of the best welterweights
>in the world square off for $10m plus each or whatever, I want to see a
>good fight, not vertical freestyle wrestling or roadwork with gloves.

I think that can be said for most every viewer who's a boxing fan.  DLH's
groupies are not included in that mix.

>So what makes a fight great? Well for many it's the 'feel' of a fight.
>I remember waiting for Hagler/Hearns and Hagler/Leonard on TV, and
>feeling a growing anticipation at the arena that seemed to almost come
>out of the set. I got a similar feeling with Tyson in his first
>incarnation, with Fighting Harada and Famechon in 1968...well you get
>the picture.

You get some of that same sense when Arturo Gatti fights.  You know
something is going to happen and someone is going to get hit.  Yeah, this is
boxing and we pay to see people get hit.  Yes, I appreciate good defense,
but people in general don't tune into boxing to see an artistic display of
defensive.  Pernell Whitaker, as incredible as he was, never made what he
could have made in the ring had he had some "pop" in his punches.  Once you
had seen the first round to many of his fights, you'd generally seen how the
remainder of the fight would go.

> What do I get now when I watch Oscar step into the ring?
>A fear that I've just wasted some of my elusive sponduliks.

And that will IMO cost him in the long run.

>So, once the anticipation is done with, what is going to define a fight
>as great? It need not be a KO, it need not be a shut-out. Some of the
>greatest fights of all time have been close, hard fought decisions.
>I think it has to do with will...when both fighters have an unquenchable
>thirst for victory, but chances are only one will emerge the victor.

Agreed.  The will of one fighter is tested against that of another.

>This, for me at least, is the essence of a great fight. It can probably
>be well described by opposite example...like...Henry Akinwande. Who
>would pay to see this chump fight? Bruce Seldon is another spiritless
>wonder. I'm sure you have your own list. What was that, TSC?? Chris
>B*rd you say? Maybe....

Are you referring to Chris B**d? ;->

                                                        TSC


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3.  Ivan Weiss  
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Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: What Makes A Fight Great?
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 pdel...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Now let me tell you what I think is the best fight I've seen in the
> last 10 years. There was no title at stake, the fighters were
> not 'great' in the common sense of the term and there was no KO.
> Hell, there really was virtually no anticipation at all...yet I sat
> riveted to my seat as these two guys just hit each other with
> everything they possibly could, right up until the final bell, and
> neither gave an inch. Whoahhhh....what a fight!!!!!

> If you haven't seen Troy Dorsey v Rudy Zavala, do so. But do so before
> you buy your next PPV, OK?

I agree with Peter on this one. But Troy Dorsey vs. Kevin Kelley was even
better.

Ivan Weiss     PHILOSOPHY, n. A route of many roads
Vashon WA      leading from nowhere to nothing.
               -- Ambrose Bierce: "The Devil's Dictionary"


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4.  Bob Sheehy  
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Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: What Makes A Fight Great?
This thread makes an interesting counterpoint to the thread on the
upcoming John Brown - Wayne McCullough bout.  Moderate skill mixed with
immoderate will can be the formula for a memorable fight.  Every so
often, John LoCicero and Caveman Lee will give us one for the ages.

One of my favorite fighters of the early eighties was Bobby Chacon, who
had heart enough for ten men.  His last fight with Cornelius
Boza-Edwards was the most stirring melodrama I've ever seen enacted in a
boxing ring.


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5.  Patrick Kehoe  
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Bob,
Gatti and Tszyu might be a fight like Bobby and Boza... Bob... just the
thought of that fight makes me grimace...

Patrick Kehoe


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