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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: "DNG" <D...@DMT.Sonofon.DK>
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: Michael Dokes.
internet <pwd100 @ widomaker.com> wrote in article > He was a fast starter, he could punch and he had a good jab and gave ... thanks for sharing these brilliant insights. > Holyfield everything he could handle. He might have been ahead on points > prior to the knock out to Evander. He was good but not great and several > of his best years went out the window due to drug use. He still is a Former > hchampion and more than just a foot note in boxing history, currently, he > is in jail....... Pat pwd...@widomaker.com É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: dann...@aol.com (Dannews)
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Feb. 6 on FOX
From America Presents:
CHICAGO FIRE! ELGIN, ILL -- Undefeated World Boxing Association - North America super Camacho, 26-0 (15 KOs), from Puerto Rico, the WBA's No. 1-rated super Camacho has become a fan favorite since being featured on back-to-back world Warren, 42-11 (20 KOs), is one of the division's toughest competitors. Twice Oquendo, 16-0 (9 KOs), from Chicago, will rumble with Dale Crowe, 18-2 (11 A former U.S. National Amateur champion, Oquendo has been speaking softly and É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: "Undisputed" <walkthiswayNOS...@worldnet.att.net>
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: Feb. 6 on FOX
>Camacho displays the same speed and power that have been a So that would be "lots" and "none", respectively? >trademark of his famous namesake father, Hector Camacho, Sr., who captured >world titles in three different weight classes. -Undisputed É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycru...@cruzers.com>
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: Feb. 6 on FOX
Undisputed wrote in message ... Be he got his head rattled by Edwin Rosario, Camacho used to sit-down more >>Camacho displays the same speed and power that have been a >>trademark of his famous namesake father, Hector Camacho, Sr., who captured >>world titles in three different weight classes. >So that would be "lots" and "none", respectively? on his punches and they had some authority behind them. Following his win over Rosario, Camacho became a safety-first fighter. And safety-second too. TSC É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: Paul Watkins <pau...@diamond.co.uk>
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: Calzaghe Looking to Steal the Show
Lets face facts here, Joe hasn't fought for a while because he has had a
series of injuries, there have been unconfirmed reports of surgery. Given these circumstances and a prolonged period of r&r coupled with a fighter who has a very similar style, it is not surprising that we witnessed a fight that was less than dazzling. Joe has proved to me at least that he has all the qualities of a worthy champion, a chin, a punch (although not a one shot fighter), speed, accuracy that any sniper would proud of and the stamina to fight for 12 full rounds. It's just a shame he has to fill the boots of great champions like Collins, Eubank and the dark destroyer Nigel Benn É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: pdel...@hotmail.com
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: What Makes A Fight Great?
I've been reading more rsb than usual lately, and it occurred to me
that we (boxing fans) really have been short-changed by some of the so- called 'greats' in boxing today. It seems to me that great fighters should put on great fights...so how come Oscar/Tito, Oscar/Ike, Lewis/Holyfield and many others that I could mention have been no better than average club fights, and in lots of cases, much worse? We've probably become immune to the size of these guys paychecks, but So what makes a fight great? Well for many it's the 'feel' of a fight. So, once the anticipation is done with, what is going to define a fight Now let me tell you what I think is the best fight I've seen in the If you haven't seen Troy Dorsey v Rudy Zavala, do so. But do so before Peter D Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanitycru...@cruzers.com>
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: What Makes A Fight Great?
pdel...@hotmail.com wrote in message <8768kd$4b...@nnrp1.deja.com>... I say, it's because they fight 'not to lose'. They don't really fight to >...so how come Oscar/Tito, Oscar/Ike, >Lewis/Holyfield and many others that I could mention have been no >better than average club fights, and in lots of cases, much worse? beat the other fighter often, but to get the "W" and avoid getting hurt. I can't blame a guy for not wanting to get hurt, but if Oscar wants to kick overmatched and little guys' asses and play safety first against real competition, he sure as shit won't get my money. Oscar "Next time I'm going to be a warrior" de la Hoya. Yeah, he'll do it when he fights a guy he knows cannot hurt him. >When I see two of the best welterweights I think that can be said for most every viewer who's a boxing fan. DLH's >in the world square off for $10m plus each or whatever, I want to see a >good fight, not vertical freestyle wrestling or roadwork with gloves. groupies are not included in that mix. >So what makes a fight great? Well for many it's the 'feel' of a fight. You get some of that same sense when Arturo Gatti fights. You know >I remember waiting for Hagler/Hearns and Hagler/Leonard on TV, and >feeling a growing anticipation at the arena that seemed to almost come >out of the set. I got a similar feeling with Tyson in his first >incarnation, with Fighting Harada and Famechon in 1968...well you get >the picture. something is going to happen and someone is going to get hit. Yeah, this is boxing and we pay to see people get hit. Yes, I appreciate good defense, but people in general don't tune into boxing to see an artistic display of defensive. Pernell Whitaker, as incredible as he was, never made what he could have made in the ring had he had some "pop" in his punches. Once you had seen the first round to many of his fights, you'd generally seen how the remainder of the fight would go. > What do I get now when I watch Oscar step into the ring? And that will IMO cost him in the long run. >A fear that I've just wasted some of my elusive sponduliks. >So, once the anticipation is done with, what is going to define a fight Agreed. The will of one fighter is tested against that of another. >as great? It need not be a KO, it need not be a shut-out. Some of the >greatest fights of all time have been close, hard fought decisions. >I think it has to do with will...when both fighters have an unquenchable >thirst for victory, but chances are only one will emerge the victor. >This, for me at least, is the essence of a great fight. It can probably Are you referring to Chris B**d? ;-> >be well described by opposite example...like...Henry Akinwande. Who >would pay to see this chump fight? Bruce Seldon is another spiritless >wonder. I'm sure you have your own list. What was that, TSC?? Chris >B*rd you say? Maybe.... TSC É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: Ivan Weiss <i...@ham.nw.verio.net>
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: What Makes A Fight Great?
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 pdel...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Now let me tell you what I think is the best fight I've seen in the I agree with Peter on this one. But Troy Dorsey vs. Kevin Kelley was even > last 10 years. There was no title at stake, the fighters were > not 'great' in the common sense of the term and there was no KO. > Hell, there really was virtually no anticipation at all...yet I sat > riveted to my seat as these two guys just hit each other with > everything they possibly could, right up until the final bell, and > neither gave an inch. Whoahhhh....what a fight!!!!! > If you haven't seen Troy Dorsey v Rudy Zavala, do so. But do so before better. Ivan Weiss PHILOSOPHY, n. A route of many roads É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: bob...@webtv.net (Bob Sheehy)
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: What Makes A Fight Great?
This thread makes an interesting counterpoint to the thread on the
upcoming John Brown - Wayne McCullough bout. Moderate skill mixed with immoderate will can be the formula for a memorable fight. Every so often, John LoCicero and Caveman Lee will give us one for the ages. One of my favorite fighters of the early eighties was Bobby Chacon, who É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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Grupos de notícias: rec.sport.boxing
De: Patrick Kehoe <pke...@sprint.ca>
Data: 2000/02/01
Assunto: Re: What Makes A Fight Great?
Bob,
Gatti and Tszyu might be a fight like Bobby and Boza... Bob... just the thought of that fight makes me grimace... Patrick Kehoe É necessário Acessar antes de postar mensagens.
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