I know it's sort of a chicken-egg thing, but Byrd isn't marketable to the
point that he's a money fight.  In order to become marketable (esp as a
heavyweight) it helps to KO the fighters you're fed on the way up.  Byrd
would do well to dispose of Grant (who wasn't even a very good crusierweight)
quickly and forget the showboating. Until he's a money fight, charges that
anyone is ducking him are ridiculous.

And don't use the "he's not a KO artist" argument in defending Byrd.  Ali,
who was hardly a flat-footed slugger, KO'd 15 out of his first 19 opponents.
It certainly helped him to get fight number 20, in which he KO'd someone
named Sonny Liston...

: Eric O.

Woah. I saw this message and jumped to it thinking it was on for teusday
:) dont fool me like that eric ;) Yeah that would be a nice fight!
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Well, you got it half right sourdough.  I quoted the stuff about Ali
loving fame, that's true all right but you're missing half of the
picture.  Just remember what Joe Frazier said when people were asking
him hey was it your blows that caused Ali's mental condition?  To
paraphrase, Joe hemmed and hawed, saying no, I took just as many
punches and I'm fine, look how I got killed by George Foreman, it
wasn't my fault, and I don't feel sad for him because can't you see?
Even if he's suffering from Parkinson's syndrome (by the way once again
that's Parkinson's syndrome caused by boxing, not Parkinson's disease),
he's still Muhammad Ali.  The greatest.  Ali's proud of the
accomplishments he has done.  There's noone else in the world who can
say, "I'm Muhammad Ali, the greatest." I'm sure if you told Ali, I feel
sorry for you, he'd try to make *you* feel better.  Ali's still
working, doing public appearances.  After all, that's been his
specialty (outside of boxing) ever since the Vietname era.  Besides,
damn it, people do want to listen to him and see him.  Sympathy,
sadness, regret, let yourself feel any of these emotions for Ali, but
don't pity him or feel embarrassed for Ali, that's just stupid.

In article <4tnk2e$...@mapperley.innotts.co.uk>,

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1. Gianfranco Rosi (no wonder he was tested positive for amphetamines -
anything to liven him up a bit)
2. Virgil Hill (jab for 12 rounds and win an uneventful decision)
3. Henry Maske (jab for 12 rounds, from a southpaw stance, and win an
uneventful decision)
4. Chris Eubank (do the absolute minimum required to win - or in many
cases, don't do enough to win, and get an undeserved decision)
5. Mauro Galvano (jab, miss a right hander, grab your opponent in a head
lock. Repeat for 12 rounds)
6. Johnny Nelson (as stated by a Boxing News reporter "A blow by blow
account of the Nelson-Henry Akinwande fight is virtually impossible,
because barely a solid blow was landed all night")
7. Just about every fight of the 80's heavyweight merry go round
(Tubbs-Witherspoon-Thomas-Berbick-Tate-Page, etc.)

<<I don't know what makes you say he has power, since you have never seen
him
<<fight before. I think anyone in the pro ranks who gets in the ring with
him
<<will be fighting another Meldrick Taylor: All flash and no substance.

Sorry, Matador, but I think I'd have to disagree with your unfounded
speculation.  Even if he DOES tend to showboat instead of fight (which I
have not seen), it may just be part of his style and have nothing to do
with conditioning.  Without knowing his training habits or without having
seen him tire consistently in previous bouts, you have no grounds for
making such statements.  

As for his power, I NEVER SAID I'd never seen him fight before.  I just
had never heard of him before the Olympic trials came along (when I saw
him fight 2 or 3 times), and I've seen him twice in the Olympics now.  The
reason I think he has good power is the fact that in the fights I have
seen, even his jab has been consistently snapping back his opponent's
head.  He simply has beaten his opponent to the punch and landed SOLID
punches on a regular basis....   Looked like more substance than flash to
me so far....   Maybe I'll be proven wrong in the future, but at this
point, that's what I've seen...

Adam D. Edgeworth -- "The Edge"  (On edge...@aol.com)

Can someone give me a prediction on David Tua vs Darrel Wilson. I've heard
that Tua is quite limited and I didn't really have time to judge him in 19
seconds. Someone told me that Wilson didn't have much of a punch; but he
KO'd party animal Briggs.

In <groddy-0108960419550...@dialup-018.galway.iol.ie> gro...@iol.ie

The bottom line on Tua is that Lou Duva was at ringside for Cedric
Kushner's awful PPV a few weeks ago. After watching Wilson bore the
hell out of the fans for 10 rounds, he offered him a shot at Tua.
Obviously Lou viewed it as an easy way to "beat the man who beat the
man" without endangering Tua one bit. I guess Lou remembers the Everton
Davis fight as vividly as I do.