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Vanpred Boxing Prediction League Invite..

vancan...@shaw.ca (Vanman) — Tue, 24 nov 2009 01:46:09 UT

Our 9th year is almost complete and we will have some spaces available for
any newcomers. There are plenty of regular posters here who participate.
Anyone interested just email me....Van

Pacquiao steroid accusations

daniel_anthony_stea...@yahoo.com (danstearns) — Mon, 23 nov 2009 22:04:28 UT

I noticed Paulie Maligaggi has joined the small---but slowly growing---
chorus of voices after Mayweather Sr---including Jeff Mayweather,
Kermit Cintron, and Wally Matthews----in accusing or implying that
Pacquiao is the beneficiary of some type of steroid (or something-or-
the-other illegal) enhancement:

Kessler v Ward

mitti...@gmail.com (Walter Mitty) — Sun, 22 nov 2009 04:34:49 UT

Firstly kudos to Ward : great speed and wonderful skills.
Secondly : that bout should be re-fought. BOTH Kessler's injuries
came from blatant headbutts. The second one in particular which caused
the stoppage cut almost took Kessler's head off.
Would the result have been any different? Who knows. Kessler was sharp

Vanpred Nov 19th

figfigbag...@gmail.com (fig) — Fri, 20 nov 2009 08:34:54 UT

November 21st
-Mikkel Kessler (42-1) vs Andre Ward (20-0) (Showtime): Kessler W10

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jrs...@mnsi.net (j. r. sinclair) — Thu, 19 nov 2009 13:12:24 UT

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Been punching us since Reagan was in

ddca...@yahoo.com (ddcatdd@yahoo.com) — Wed, 18 nov 2009 05:30:49 UT

Not sure what Bon Jovi, the rancid anchovee (sorry, fish) can do to
further ruin Rock'n'Roll as only he can but rest assured JBJ will do
it. The guy is non-stop.

Kessler vs Ward

ist...@googlemail.com (Steen) — Tue, 17 nov 2009 09:29:53 UT

Is there any way to watch the super six other than ppv

Boxing Boom in Britain

gu...@msn.com (D. Flynn) — Mon, 16 nov 2009 21:33:18 UT

[link]

When is Pacquiao goint to fight

heyhey...@charter.net (Dan L) — Mon, 16 nov 2009 13:22:10 UT

Someone who is not old or coming off a beating,
so we can see if he really is any good?
If Berto can beat mosely, I wanna see Manny fight him,
not that he's anything great but he is young and on a winning
streak.
I don't see manny fighting Mayweather because he dodges the question
every time they ask him.

I have witnessed a double knockown!!

w...@mr-will.co.uk (Mr.Will) — Sun, 15 nov 2009 20:45:17 UT

[link]
I was shooting this fight - Renda (in orange) fell down right in front of me
with his back to me.
I thought he had slipped, but the way they both got up I realised I had
witnessed the phenomenon!
Its like the yeti, you hear of sightings of it, but nobody ever can prove

So When Is Floyd Bigmouth Jr Gonna

bigelil...@msn.com (Ron) — Sun, 15 nov 2009 06:16:30 UT

fight the Pacman?

Pacquiao knocks out Cotto in 12th round

tony...@aol.com (Tony Turner) — Sun, 15 nov 2009 05:51:50 UT

[link]
Updated: November 15, 2009, 12:41 AM ET
Pacquiao knocks out Cotto in 12th
Associated Press
LAS VEGAS -- Manny Pacquiao put on yet another dominating performance
Saturday night, knocking down Miguel Cotto twice and turning his face
into a bloody mess before finally stopping him 55 seconds into the

Pacmam will KO Cotto

shor...@gmail.com (umo) — Sun, 15 nov 2009 02:02:44 UT

I am astounded how many so-called boxing experts like George Foreman
and Tito Trinidad actually pick Cotto over Pacquiao. How can anybody
fail to recognize Pacquiao is a generational fighter. He is the Sugar
Ray Robinson of our time. Pacman is not just a fighter. He has
elevated boxing to the level of art. Pacman is transcendent. Some

David Haye - An Entertaining Showman and Good Boxer

strategy...@gmail.com (STRATEGY) — Sat, 14 nov 2009 18:35:34 UT

People got butthurt over the "classless" T-shirt he wore of
decapitated Klit, but I think the shit is funny. Nothing wrong with
trash-talk in boxing. I found James Toney's Shtick entertaining as
well. On that note, here's some comments Haye made of Valuev prior to
their fight:
David Haye's "Top Five Insults" on Nikolai Valuev

Z Gorres

tim.how...@suddenlink.net (Tim Howard) — Sat, 14 nov 2009 05:16:32 UT

Read that he collapsed after his fight. We don't need anymore boxing
tragedies. Anyone know if he is alive?

PacMan Concert

gu...@msn.com (D. Flynn) — Sat, 14 nov 2009 03:04:03 UT

Right after his bout w/Cotto, Pacquiao will head to a nightclub to
perform a concert w/his band. He apparently did the same after the
Hatton fight.
[link]
Isn't this a bad idea? Given that fighters often suffer concussions
and other injuries wouldn't he better off resting the rest of the

Vanpred Nov 12th...

figfigbag...@gmail.com (fig) — Fri, 13 nov 2009 08:35:27 UT

November 14th
-Manny Pacquiao (49-3-2) vs Miguel Cotto (34-1) (PPV): Pacquaio UD
-Daniel Santos (32-3-1) vs Yuri Foreman (27-0) (PPV):Santos W9
-Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (40-0-1) vs Troy Rowland (25-2) (PPV): Chavez
W4
-Alfonso Gomez (20-4-2) vs Jesus Soto Karass (24-3-3) (PPV): Karass W8

Re: Tyson Now Has Arizona on His Butt

bart5...@aol.com (Bart Smith) — Fri, 13 nov 2009 04:10:16 UT

On 12 Nov 2009 17:09:47 -0800, Twitchell
What a peculiar headline.

Both Mike Tyson & Paparazzi want to file battery charges against each other

amy3...@msn.com (Amy Jones) — Thu, 12 nov 2009 05:00:38 UT

[link]
Updated: November 11, 2009, 11:32 PM ET
Tyson detained on suspicion of batteryComment Email Print Share
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES -- Mike Tyson allegedly hit a photographer at Los Angeles
International Airport and was detained on suspicion of battery

Long time criminal Mike Tyson arrested after airport incident

frannie...@aol.com (Frannie Smith) — Thu, 12 nov 2009 02:36:07 UT

[link]
Police say Mike Tyson involved in LAX incident
LOS ANGELES (AP)—Police say boxer Mike Tyson has been detained on
suspicion of battery following an incident at Los Angeles
International Airport involving paparazzi.

Cotto-PacMan Undercard

gu...@msn.com (D. Flynn) — Tue, 10 nov 2009 17:02:38 UT

Daniel Santos- Yuri Foreman
J.C. Chavez Jr -Troy Rowland
Alfonso Gomez- Jesus Soto-Karass
Months ago, Bob Arum promised he would assemble a "spectacular"
undercard for this ppv. He lied.

so, let's have your Pacquaio vs Hatton predictions!

daniel_anthony_stea...@yahoo.com (danstearns) — Mon, 09 nov 2009 23:52:52 UT

[link]
a fun crew of characters give their takes on this fight here...... I
thought it was particularly funny that an comedian/actor like John
Leguizamo had a much, MUCH better idea of what the hell’s going on
than a sportswriter like Tim Smith of the New York Daily News did,

Re: okay, let's have your Pacquiao vs Cotto predictions!

ne...@millions.com — Tue, 10 nov 2009 04:40:18 UT

It'll be a contest of speed and movement vs slow set-ups/power.
Manny Pacquiao! And Manny has to take him past the 6th
DCI

Haye survived

inva...@invalid.invalid (Joshua B) — Sun, 08 nov 2009 19:22:22 UT

He was fast, no question.
One question though:
Who was the contender?
Valuev, or the growth-restricted dark-skinned dwarf with the swift legs?
Haye has to be the Best Running Performer since the unspeakable speedy
Sven Ottke.
Small folk, please stop to bore and keep away from Heavy Weight Boxing.

Haye wins majority decision

heyhey...@charter.net (Dan L) — Sat, 07 nov 2009 22:55:47 UT

whooopdy doo

Vanpred Nov 5th

figfigbag...@gmail.com (fig) — Fri, 06 nov 2009 06:30:25 UT

November 7th
-Chad Dawson (28-0) vs Glen Johnson (49-12-2) (HBO): Dawson UD
-Alfredo Angulo (16-1) vs Harry Yorgey (22-0-1) (HBO): Angulo W6
-Nikolai Valuev (50-1) vs David Haye (22-1): Haye UD

More on Haye v Valuev : the hype

mitti...@gmail.com (Walter Mitty) — Thu, 05 nov 2009 17:08:18 UT

Great article by Ben Dirs from the BBC:
[link]
,----
`----

Mexican Definition

timt...@mail.house.gov (Kalimba Butts) — Wed, 04 nov 2009 21:04:13 UT

[link]
Mexicans are stupid.
Mexicans are shiftless and dirty. They come from a dirty nation called
Mexico. Most Mexicans make and distribute what they call chicle or what
Americans call gum. Due to the flooded chicle market, many Mexicans try to

Contentious Interview

gu...@msn.com (D. Flynn) — Wed, 04 nov 2009 00:18:25 UT

Rap DJ accuses Floyd Jr of ducking the best fighters.
[link]

What The Hell?

mitti...@gmail.com (Walter Mitty) — Tue, 03 nov 2009 19:53:17 UT

[link]
"Arreola receives ban for swearing"
How ridiculous.

COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU......

timt...@mail.house.gov (Kalimba Butts) — Tue, 03 nov 2009 14:31:41 UT

[link]

Sad

gu...@msn.com (D. Flynn) — Mon, 02 nov 2009 21:46:30 UT

Fernando Vargas is making a comeback.
[link]
His opponent will likely be Hector Camacho Jr.

Re: MORE STUPID MEXICAN ANTICS................................................

timt...@mail.house.gov (Kalimba Butts) — Mon, 02 nov 2009 18:31:35 UT

Re: Immigration Reform For Illegals? Where can we find the "legal" immigrants?

timt...@mail.house.gov (Kalimba Butts) — Mon, 02 nov 2009 17:28:02 UT

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Agbeko vs Perez

pa...@simplyhombre.net (pablo) — Sun, 01 nov 2009 02:29:35 UT

Dudes - turn on SHO right now. Awesome fight... awesome.

Lookalikes...

papw...@webtv.net — Sun, 01 nov 2009 01:46:28 UT

Jimmy Rollins/ Roy Jones Jr.

Michael Spinks as Heavyweight..how good was he?

vancan...@shaw.ca (Vanman) — Sat, 31 out 2009 19:21:55 UT

Michael at heavyweight was a brief affair to say the least. Two narrow wins
over Larry Holmes (2nd dubious) and a wipeout loss to Mike Tyson (ok and a
win over an aged Gerry Cooney). Not exactly a deep resume in some sense.
How do you think Michael would have done against other contenders at the
time such as Tim Witherspoon, Pinklon Thomas, Frank Bruno, Bonecrusher

Post Douglas Tyson existed before first defeat?

vancan...@shaw.ca (Vanman) — Sat, 31 out 2009 19:18:28 UT

Just finished watching Mike Tyson vs James "Quick" Tillis and I saw many
features decried by some to be non-existent before Tyson's loss to Douglas.
At the time it is fair to say that Tillis was basically the gatekeeper to
the top 10. The fight went to a close decision win to Tyson but it was damn

The David Haye image

w...@mr-will.co.uk (Mr.Will) — Sat, 31 out 2009 10:24:19 UT

Ive followed Haye for some time - I remember the press conferences against
the likes of Mark Hobson (fight that never happened), and various other
events and fights.
A couple of things become apparent. The hype to sell a fight, as DCI
remarked comes off as "pretty vile", at times but I think Haye hasn't much

David Haye working out for Valuev

mitti...@gmail.com (Walter Mitty) — Fri, 30 out 2009 23:33:12 UT

[link]
Quite impressive.

Vanpred Oct 29th

figfigbag...@gmail.com (fig) — Fri, 30 out 2009 07:03:02 UT

October 31st
-Joseph Agbeko (27-1) vs Yonnhy Perez (19-0) (Showtime): Agbeko W10
-Antonio DeMarco (22-1) vs Jose Alfaro (23-4) (Showtime): DeMarco W7

35 years sure goes by fast (for some of us)

ruddell'elle-kabo...@canada.com (Ruddell) — Thu, 29 out 2009 20:50:18 UT

Interesting article today on TSN which likely is elsewhere as well. But
tomorrow is the 35th anniversary of this classic fight but the story is well
told for a change...
[link]

Review: "Sweet Thunder - The Life and Times of Sugar Ray Robinson" by Wil Haygood

use-author-supplied-address-hea...@[127.1] (chronicle) — Thu, 29 out 2009 19:37:39 UT

(LA Times) - With this book, Haygood -- a feature writer for the
Washington Post -- completes a biographical trilogy that includes
earlier prize-winning volumes on Sammy Davis Jr. and the Harlem
congressman Adam Clayton Powell Jr.
"Sweet Thunder" (Amazon.com: [link] ) is by far the
best of these books and, in describing an athlete now universally

Tonight at 8 pm...

gu...@msn.com (D. Flynn) — Tue, 27 out 2009 20:15:42 UT

...ESPN will air a never-before seen Albert Mayles documentary on the
1980 Ali-Holmes bout featuring footage of both fighters in training.
[link]

Hennie Stoyer

wbs...@aol.com (Wbsmms@aol.com) — Tue, 27 out 2009 17:35:34 UT

Ha! The MSNBC newsreader misidentified Congressman Stennie Hoyer this
way today.

lest we forget

mitti...@gmail.com (Walter Mitty) — Tue, 27 out 2009 14:45:31 UT

Boxing, more than most sports, like to knock recent heroes and laud old
timers.
Naseem Hamed. A great in his day.
Excitement, good chin (when he went down it was off balance as opposed
to being hurt) and explosive speed and power.
[link]
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Andrew Golota -Tomasz Adamek

gu...@msn.com (D. Flynn) — Mon, 26 out 2009 01:26:40 UT

This fight apparently garnered monster ratings in Poland where it was
shown on prime-time free TV.
[link]
Check out the vicious right-left combo at 0:27.