HOWEDY opinicus, you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active
acute chronic life-long INCURABLE Malignant
MaliciHOWES MENTAL CASE,
"Opinicus" <gez
...@spamcop.net.which.is.not.invalid> wrote in message
Baboons mishandle and abuse their pets as puppy parents.
You'll SEE they handle raise an train their puppys JUST LIKE
HOWE cesar milan or capain haggerty PREFER:
Employment Opportunities -
Must Be Simian Or It's Legal Guardian -
BABOONS NEED NOT APPLY.
HOWEDY People,
The Sincerely Incredibly Simply Amazing Puppy
Wizard is EXXXPANDING HIS FREE WWW Wits'
End Training Method to include IN-HOWES visits
from PROFESSIONAL SIMIAN DOG TRAINERS
for a small, satisfaction money back guaranteed fee.
Employment opportunities EXXXIST for compassionate
apes and monkeys to be TRAINED FOR FREE with
the assistance of any ten year old HUMAN child under
the guidance of their FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Training Method Manual
to SUCCESSFULLY handle and train clients dogs to
PERFECTION in WON IN-HOWES visit, JUST LIKE
HOWE The Sincerely Incredibly Simply Amazing Puppy
Wizard had done for forty years PRYOR to comin to the
WWW, thanks to V.P. Al Gore <{}';~ ) >
THANK YOU, V.P. Al Gore!
Additionally, applicants MUST be willing to
legally change their name after successfully
completing training to "Major Haggerty".
The Sincerely Incredibly Simply Amazing Puppy
Wizard assures you there will be NO PAIN FEAR
FORCE or INTIMIDATION inflicted on ANY dogs
by your WORKIN simian in the performance of his
duties as a PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINER.
BABOONS NEED NOT APPLY.
The Sincerely Incredibly Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >
-----------------------
HOWEDY Robin,
From: "Robin Barr" <robinba...@cox.net>
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004
Subject: Re: HELP needed ASAP
> Howedy Jerry,
> > From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz
...@EarthLink.Net>
> > Reply-To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz
...@EarthLink.Net>
> > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004
> > To: "Robin Barr" <robinba
...@cox.net>,
> > <der
...@uwm.edu>, <T
...@dog-play.com>,
> > <KelleyMet
...@aol.com>, <larrymm
...@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: HELP needed ASAP
> > HOWEDY Robin,
> > Cc's for EMBARRASSMENT FACTOR:
> > robinba...@cox.net;der...@uwm.edu; t...@dog-play.com;
> > kelleyMet...@aol.com; larrymm...@yahoo.com;
> > "Robin Barr" <robinba...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:robinbarr1-BA43BF.23273310122004@news.west.cox.net...
> >> In article
> > <1102728393.374760.128...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> unsurreal...@netzoola.com wrote:
> >>> You are simply full of shit.
> Jerry - you realize that his statement
> above was meant for me, not for you?
you, Robin." when I first saw your reply to
mauijnp although I can't find it on the forum;
seems the NG servers been actin up for a
couple of days.
Perhaps you're not familiar with mauijnp's
posted case history. I'd been kindly and
polite to her when she first posted, but as
you've SEEN, people PREFER to punish
and avoid problems than rehabilitate their dogs.
In fact, I couldn't wait to read your post to Mrs.
Puppy Wizard. I share many of the case historys
we've got here with her as she's WON of my
most successful students, although she was
WON of my MOST DIFFICUT, as she'd had
many years of professional training lessons
and showed English Mastiffs and although
she'd known of me for six years had only come
to me as a student when all the other methods
failed to rehabilitate a couple MINOR problems
like ringWIZE and some little aggression issues
and STUFF, on accHOWENT of SHE HEARD
my METHODS are NOT EFFECTIVE on
accHOWENT of I DON'T HURT DOGS to
train them.
I used to DREAD her arrival on accHOWENT of
she'd engage me in idiotic discussions abHOWET
traditional methods and HOWE my methods conflict
with them and EVERY THING she'd been taught and
well, you know HOWE it goes. She was VERY WELL
TRAINED by the INCOMPETENTS who GOT her to
the point where she'd HAVE to ASK a FLUKE for advice.
You just can't make SENSE to someWON who's
been indoctrinated to a blelief system that is built
on faerie tails and inaccurate / incomplete observations
of lab or wild critters or the dismal failure of C-HOWENTLESS
others who are likeWIZE at a loss for a remedy.
I'll BET MY LIFE I can TRAIN a CHIMPANZEE
to TRAIN ANY DOG NEARLY INSTANTLY just
like HOWE you and I do. I'll call him Major Haggerty.
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHHAHAHHAAA!!!
I'm fixin to go find me a dog lover who owns a chimp
and make IT a PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINER!
In love and light,
Your Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >
Cc's for EMBARRASSMENT FACTOR:
i...@haggertydog.com; der...@uwm.edu;
kelleymet...@aol.com;t...@dog-play.com;
i...@triplecrowndogs.com;s...@triplecrowndogs.com;
mplon...@uwsp.edu ;babe...@haggertydog.com
adopti...@gentlegiantsrescue.com
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Newsgroups: alt.cats, alt.pets.cats, rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
rec.pets.dogs.behavior, rec.pets.dogs.misc
From: rpl <plinnane3REM...@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: Employment Opportunities -
Must Be Simian Or It's Legal Guardian -
BABOONS NEED NOT APPLY.
> why not baboons ??
Newsgroups: alt.cats, alt.pets.cats, rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
rec.pets.dogs.behavior, rec.pets.dogs.misc
From: ThePuppyProp...@AniMail.Net
Date: 17 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: Employment Opportunities -
Must Be Simian Or It's Legal Guardian -
BABOONS NEED NOT APPLY.
HOWEDY RPL,
rpl wrote:
> why not baboons ?>?
Good question, RPL.
According to science, Baboons ain't got souls.
Newsgroups: alt.cats, alt.pets.cats, rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
rec.pets.dogs.behavior, rec.pets.dogs.misc
From: rpl <plinnane3REM...@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: Employment Opportunities -
Must Be Simian Or It's Legal Guardian -
BABOONS NEED NOT APPLY.
ThePuppyProp
...@AniMail.Net wrote:
> HOWEDY RPL,
> rpl wrote:
>>why not baboons ?>?
> Good question, RPL.
> According to science, Baboons ain't got souls.
and re your other post in this thread, it's no skin off
my ass how you treat posters; you've misattributed
it to me.
pat
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior, alt.cats, alt.pets.cats,
rec.pets.cats.health+behav, rec.pets.dogs.misc
From: ThePuppyProp...@AniMail.Net
Date: 17 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: Employment Opportunities -
Must Be Simian Or It's Legal Guardian -
BABOONS NEED NOT APPLY.
HOWEDY mjyadio,
mjya
...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > handle and train clients dogs to
> > PERFECTION in WON IN-HOWES
> > visit, JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing
> > Puppy Wizard had done for forty years
> > PRYOR to comin to the WWW, thanks
> > to V.P. Al Gore.
> > THANK YOU, V.P. Al Gore!
> Um, Al Gore is not the V.P.
> Why do you constantly post old crap?
Hunh? My posts are TIMELESS, mjyaido.
> Why do you treat humans like garbage
You mean dog abusers like yourself, pat.
> and "supposedly" treat dogs like royalty?
Oh? That's all taught in your own FREE COPY
of my FREE manual, mjyadio:
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<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
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> You are not worth another sentence.
I don't EXXXPECT ANSWERS to my posts, mjyadio,
they're SELF EXXXPLANATORY and answer the
questions in advance, pat.
> Buh bye.
Stick around, pat:
HOWEDY pawman aka grant,
Pawman wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
> "Did Grant put you up to speak for him? I NOTICED
> he has yet to reply to any of my posts involving
> his abusive methods. "
> Grant replies:
> When someone genuine with credibility
You mean like when a SAR / Military / Police
dog trainer talks dog trainin business, grant?
> questions my methods
You "teach" the koehler (pronounced keeler) method,
grant. We've been DONE talkin koehler method training
since sindy Sadist moore of k-9web.com and lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn FRAUDreck hassan lying frosty dahl
and DOGMAN have been DISCREDITED by me and no longer
post to my forums, grant.
Stick around. We got LOTS to talk about.
> I always answer them...
INDEEDY. But you got NO ANSWERS to The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's CHARGES and PROOFS that you're
a dog abusing coward, like them others, grant.
NEXT we'll find out if you're a liar and mental case,
to boot, based on your ANSWERS to my charges.
OR LACK THEREOF, grant.
> as you fit neither of those criteria
We was talkin about HOWE COME SAR dogs FAIL
to find lost children right under their noses pryor to
GETTIN MURDERED or SUFFOCATING TO DEATH,
grant. You're a EXXXPERT SAR trainer. What's the
story, grant. HOWE COME THOSE DOGS FAILED?
HOWE COME those dogs FAILED to find the lost
12 year old scout and Elizabeth Smart in Utah
within a couple miles on foot from KNOWN STARTING
POINTS, grant?
HOWE do police and military dog trainers EXXXPLAIN
failed search and rescue trained dogs on simple tracks?
> I wont address any of your lunatic rantings.
Of curse not. To do so would mark you as
a 1. FRAUD. or 2. DOG ABUSER. or 3. LIAR.
or 4. MENTAL CASE.
I'm willin to wager we got all four quadrants
in your case, grant. Don't you know the four
quadrants of OC (operant conditoning), grant?
That's what The Amazing Puppy Wizard uses on
the EXXXPERTS HE IDENTIFIES EXXXPOSES
and DISCREDITS.
> I don't consider mentally unbalanced people
> to be legitimate customers that I would want
> to be assocuated with.
Just answer the QUESTIONS and we don't have to
be PERSONAL PALS, grant "You're JUDGED BY the
company you keep. When you lie with pigs you'll
awaken stinking like 'm. When you GET BAGGED for
LYING you're MARKED FOR LIFE."
Is being marked for life the reason you'd prefer
to pass yourself off as a dog abusing coward, grant?
There's no sin in bein a coward or mental case, grant.
Only a coward would refuse to ANSWER my questions.
And ONLY A MENTAL CASE would answer them cause
that'd PROVE they be a dog abuser.
And to DENY my charges would prove you to be a LIAR.
So NOT ANSWERING the questions is your ONLY OPTION,
which leaves the ONLY CONCLUSION to be that you're a dog
abuser... being a mental case naturally follows, of course, being
a coward is aleady proven cause only a coward HURTS and
INTIMIATES innocent defenseless dumb critters, grant.
So that takes us back to YOU:
> You are a joke in professional circles.
You mean amongst dog abusing cowards and mental cases, grant.
> Which in itself explains why you expend
> so much negative energy trying to discredit
> those who treat you as a joke.
Let's talk about choking and shocking dogs, grant.
> You will rant and rave about me
No grant, you're only the MESSENGER. Let's talk about
your TRAINING METHODS, grant, police / military dog
TRAINING METHODS which are responsible for MURDERIN
those DEAD CHILREN, grant.
HOWE do you train those dogs so well, grant? Are bomb
detection dogs trained as highly as these SAR dogs like t
he won that ran away from your partner alpha sweeny's
HOWES and couldn't be found by his own search and
rescue dogs, grant?
BWEEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
No wonder you ain't fixin to answer, grant. NO PROBLEMO.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard answers questions IN ADVANCE anyHOWE.
BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
Yeah, I MIGHT BE INSANE but my methods GET 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS and for FREE,
to boot, and you know it and THAT EMBARRASES YOU.
> like you do about everyone else,
You'll notice most of them don't post to
my insane asylum no more, grant. Might
be they're afraid of GOIN NUTS.
> but like my father told me "Worry not when
> an idiot criticises your work."
You mean jerkin and choking and murdering dogs, grant?
The STATISTICS for your koehler method sez 5-10% of
your dogs are gonna GET DEAD and another 15% will never
successfully satisfactorily train, like lynn's SAR dog
JIVE.
What's your TRACK RECORD, grant? What's the FAILURE
RATE at your military facility for new recruits, grant? Those
figures must be pubic information so we can find out for
ourselves, grant. Care to save me a few minutes work
researching your PROFESSIONAL CASE HISTORY OF
DISMAL FAILURE?
Let's TALK BUSINESS, not PERSONALITIES, grant.
I got NO ANIMOSITY towards you personally, grant.
It's only your METHODS which are repugnant.
> It amazes me that anyone takes you seriously,
You think that's why they won't TALK BUSINESS
on a pubic news forum, grant? You think that
folks can't SEE what's goin on, grant?
> but then when I read the first post I ever
> saw you write I could not believe the sheer
> hate in your words to people whose only crime
> seemed to be to question what you wrote.
You mean about NOT HURTING and MURDERING innocent
dumb defenseless critters because THAT'S HOWE COME
SAR DOGS FAIL to find innocent STILL ALIVE children
so they can SUFFOCATE and GET MURDERED thanks to
your koehler / bribery methods, grant?
> I believe that no one with that much hate inside them
You mean hatred towards dog abusing punk thug cowards, grant?
OR do you mean hatred towards EXXXPERT PROFESSIONAL
TRAINERS who WON'T DEFEND THEIR METHODS in pubic, grant?
When I contact the PARENTS of those DEAD and
missing children, we'll show you what REAL
HATRED is, grant. The Amazing Puppy Wizard
will be contacting your govenment to see to
it they make the same CHANGES our country is
gonna be FORCED to do at the heel of The Amazing
Puppy Wizard, grant. Your time is come.
> could ever be as kind to dogs
> as you try to make out that you are.
Fancy THAT comin from a dog choker shocker murderer.
> Regards,
> Grant 'The Paw Man' Teeboon
> Police Dog Handler - RAAF
> 26 yrs service.
> ICQ# 12854070
HOWEDY Grant,
>Canine Behavior Counselling Services - Case Study - Seminars
>SERVICES:
> Canine Behavior Counselling Services
> 'The Paw Man' is a Brisbane Australia based
> company owned and run by Grant Teeboon.
It's too bad that you can't achieve some sense
of fulfillment without trying to malign trainers
who get 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANT SUCCESS without jerking and
choking and murdering dogs as your koehler
methods require.
Where does CONSISTENCY come in when you
violate unconditinal love trust and respect by balancing
it with pain fear force intimidation and avoidance?
HOWE can a dog TRUST you when you SOMETIMES
HURT and SOMETIMES PRAISE his normal natural
innate instinctive reflexive behaviors, Grant?
> The Paw Man specialises in correcting problem dog behaviours.
ALL temperament and behavior problemes are
CAUSED BY MISHANDLING, not BAD DOGS, Grant.
> Everything from simple leash pulling
Dogs pull on leash because people CHOKE them, Grant.
> to the most determined canine aggression.
ALL aggression is fear. ALL FEAR is CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
> Other problems dealt with include:
> Lack of control over the dog
Dogs become OPPOSITIONAL when you hurt
intimidate and withhold "rewards" attention
and affection and jerk and choke them for
their normal natural innate reflexive instinctive
behaviors, Grant.
> Unwanted aggression toward people
That's CAUSED by people violating their
TRUST and jerking choking and locking
them in boxes, Grant.
> Unwanted aggression toward other dogs
ALL AGGRESSION IS FEAR, Grant. ALL FEAR
IS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING, Grant.
> Disobedient behaviour
You just coverd that, didn't you, Grant?
> Dominant behaviour
So called DOMINANT behavior is FEAR, Grant.
> Nuisance barking
Barking is a SYMPTOM of sumpthing WRONG, Grant.
> Destructive behavior (chewing, digging & fence running)
Those are fear and anxiety relief mechanisms
caused by jerking choking shocking and locking
dogs in boxes, Grant.
> Pack hierarchy problems,
You mean DOMINANCE, Grant. Seems you
only think of dominance (*FEAR).
> and Any other problematic behaviors.
ALL temperament and behavior problems
are CAUSED by the methods you "teach".
LIKE THIS, Grant:
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: gtb...@dynamite.com.au (Grant Teeboon)
Date: 1997/05/01
Subject: Re: HELP! PUPPY BITING HOW TO STOP IT?
Jo,
The correct solution to your problem is quite simple,
you haven't yet established a 'reliable punishment cycle' for your dog. The
complete explanation can be
quite complex, but the shortened version is.. if you
try to stop a dog doing something by punishing it and
the dogs behaviour does not diminish or extinguish then
the level of punishment that you have administered is
not high enough.
All dogs just like people have there own different
thresholds to pain and punishment, just as some people
have a high tolerance for criticism, some dogs have a
high tolerence for correction.
You should escalate your correction to a level where
the dog yelps when you punish him, thus making the
experience one which the dog will want to avoid in
the future.
from Grant Teeboon, Police Dog Handler RAAF,
Canberra Australia. email: gtb...@dynamite.com.au
"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."
Like a confessor Priest?
"With him, words play no torturing tricks..., "
--John Galsworthy.
Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect HOWER words,
actions and training quirks. Jerry HOWE,
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
--------------------------------
> Consultations: are by appointment within the Brisbane,
> Ipswich and Gold Coast metropolitan areas. (Outside
> these areas by arrangement)
You mean, by APPOINTMENT, Grant?
> Behavioural solutions can be provided on many different
> levels, from minimal force for softer dogs, right up to
> full behaviour extinction routines for tougher dogs.
What's that mean, Grant? That sez to THIS reader
that you TAILOR your scientific methods to suit
the PREFERENCES of the individual dog for pain
fear force and intimidation, Grant, and that you
can't TRAIN ALL DOGS nearly instantly without
HURTING and INTIMIDATING them to suit their
PREFERENCES for PAIN FEAR FORCE and INTIMIDATION.
> This way the owner can choose the speed at which
> the dogs behaviour is changed,..... gradually or
> immediately.
You mean depending on how much PAIN FEAR FORCE
and INTIMIDATION the dog owner will permit you
to ENFORCE, Grant.
> A consultation lasts for three very intensive hours.
Given two hours to study my FREE training method
my students rehabilitate ALL temperament and
behavior problems NEARLY INSTANTLY without hurting
their dogs or locking them in boxes or bribing or
avoiding PROBLEMS, Grant.
> You will receive: One to one instruction.
My FREE students study their own FREE COPY of
my FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
in the comfort of their own home and spend maybe
four fifteen minute sessions installing the come
command as a conditional reflex and their dogs
will DO ANY THING they're ASKED because THEY
WANT TO, Grant, because THAT is the NATURE of
the BEASTIE.
> The fastest way to learn.
You mean observation and play, Grant?:
"All animals learn best through play." -- Konrad Lorenz
Complex activities are LEARNED MORE QUICKLY
through OBSERVATION (copying, if you will) than
by trial and error with reinforcemet (Luchins,).
Observers of subjects making a first trial of a multiple
choice bolt head maze made fewer errors than the
practiced subjects in the second run, while subjects
who have been shocked for error on a first trial made
more errors than either (Rosenbaum & Hewitt, 1966).
Students will modify their beliefs more when rewarded
for the way in which they carried out arguing for a
disagreeable position (role reward), than when rewarded
for the content of the argument (Wallace, 1966).
===================
> Individual assessment of your dog. (Why it does
> what it does) All methods tailored to your dogs
> unique character.
A dog is a dog, Grant:
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT IS A KAT;
As A BIRDY IS A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES IS a SP-HOWES;
As A Mass Murderer IS A Mass Murderer.
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
> An indepth canine education.
"Postitive emotions arising in connection with
the perfection of a skill, irrespective of its
pragmatic significance at a given moment, serve
as the reinforcement." IOW, emotions, not outside
rewards, are what reinforces any behavior.
"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition." Ivan P. Pavlov
"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION of the need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).
A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."
"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs,
ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
> A handy reference manual that will give you all
> the knowledge and skills you need to get your
> dog back under control.
All the INFORMATION you need is RIGHT HERE in The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Training
Method Manual:
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> A full explanation as to how and why all
> supplied methods work.
You mean pain fear force and intimidation.
> 12 months guarantee (if the problem isn't fixed
> by using the recommended methods then The Paw
> Man will come back for free until it is) 12 months
> phone/ Internet support.
My FREE Students seldom ask questions, it's all
self explanatory: WE DON'T DO NUTHING YOU TEACH.
> Where does the problem really lay?
You mean it's time to BLAME THE DOG, Grant?
> Statistics gathered over the past 23 years show
> that apx. 90% of all canine behavioural problems
> are caused by the way the owner interacts with
> the dog.
So, that means you gotta MURDER 10% of your "students".
> Therefore 90% of all canine behavioural problems
> can be solved by altering the owners interaction
> with the dog.
THAT'S because you VIOLATE TRUST when you jerk
choke and shock dogs, Grant. Let's talk about
Search And Rescue training, Grant?
> The Paw Man specialises in educating dog owners
> in the correct way to interact with their canine
> companion.
You teach jerking choking and shocking. Other than
shocking, what can you teach your "STUDENTS" that
AIN'T TAUGHT IN YOUR KOEHLER (pronounced keeler) book?
> If you read the 'References' section you will see
> many testimonies from past clients who will verify
> that this is not a slow and gradual transition, but
> rather a rapid transition that can appear miraculous
> in the short time frame of a three hour consultation.
And 12 months of FOLLOW UP work and constant jerking
and choking as taught in your koehler book. Just what
do you "teach" other than SHOCKING that AIN'T TAUGHT
in your koehler book, Grant?
> The Paw Mans qualifications include:
> 23 years service as a Police Dog Handler with the
> Royal Australian Air Force. Click here to see a
> photo of Grant with his last dog. 8 Years as an
> Instructor at the RAAFs Police Dog Handler Training
> School. 23 years of in-home consultations. Numerous
> published articles in Australia and over seas.
> References available on request. Some samples are
> included on this site (Click on 'References' button) .
> Methods used by The Paw Man are classical conditioning
> in the form of the Koehler method (pronounced 'keeler').
> The Koehler method mimics mother nature in that it uses
> a balanced mix of praise and aversives.
LOVE TRUST and RESPECT.
> The Koehler method is used by 90% of all Police
> and Military Dog organisations around the world.
Good point, Grant. That's why I've been repeatedly
asking you about SAR training. Are you familiar with
Jessica Lundren and the three boys who locked themselves
in the trunk of a car in N.J. USA, Grant? Jessica was
300 feet distance from her own bedroom from which she
was kidnapped on foot, the boys were in a car adjacent
to their homes. The POLICE SEARCH DOGS werer all over
the area INCLUDING STANDING at the trunk of the car
with the three boys presumably STILL ALIVE, yet NONE
of them GAVE UP THEIR FINDS because they know as soon
as their tracking "work" is done it's back to jerking
choking and shocking and gettin locked in the box again.
> As The Paw Man specialises in dominant and aggressive dogs,
You mean FRIGHTENED critters, Grant. ALL AGGRESSION IS FEAR.
ALL "DOMINANCE" IS FEAR. ALL JERKING CHOKING and SHOCKING IS
FEAR. Your METHOD is to give the dog some GREATER FEAR than
his own FEAR, Grant. NICE WORK!
> most of the methods employ some sort of
> aversive to extinguish the unwanted behaviours.
You mean most of YOUR methods, Grant. My methods
do not rely on pain fear force intimidation avoidance
and bribery.
> Pure positive methods, although less efficient,
You say that because you DON'T KNOW "PURE POSITIVE"
methods or they'd work 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY as my FREE Students REPORT RIGHT HERE, Grant.
> can also be supplied upon request.
Let's talk about your "Pure Positive" methods, Grant?
> Case Study
> This case study profiles a Chronic fence Jumper
> and leads you through the questioning process
> that finally finds the cause and then the solution
> to this difficult case. Some times K9 Behaviour is
> not what it first seems. The Case Study below is
> typical of the hundreds of K9 Behaviour Consultations
> by The Paw Man.
> PROBLEM
> Chronic Fence Jumping
> SITUATION
> I was called by a senior instructor of a local
> Dog Obedience Club to assist on a consult they
> were unable to solve.
> The dog in question was a German Shepherd. The
> dog lived in the owners back yard which surrounded
> the rear of the lowset brick home. The rear yard
> was fully fenced with 2 meter high picket fences
> on the front and both sides, and 1.5 meter mesh
> fence on the rear.
> The side fences were seperating the yard from the
> neighbors and the rear fence seperated the yard
> from a cow pasture. The dog had ample shade, lots
> of visual stimulation, toys and everything any dog
> could desire.
> The owners had spent thousands of dollars on proper
> fencing in the back yard and due to the dogs fence
> jumping behaviour it was evident that they had spend
> hundreds more on height extenders for the fences, but
> to no avail.
> EVALUATION
> I used a behaviourists approach for the consultation.
a dog in just a few minutes of EZ GENTLE NON
PHYSICAL CONDITIONING, Grant?
> I started by gathering as much information
> about the situation as I could.
What's to know beyond that the dog AIN'T HAPPY
and ESCAPES, Grant? There's no MYSTERY there.
> Questioning of the owners revealed the following
> information:
> The fence jumping behaviour had been occurring for
> a long time (several years), but had increased markedly
> since the wife started working.
> Both owners worked but the wife working was only a
> recent developement. The dog was treated very much
> like one of the children. These people were very
> devoted to their pet. The dog was very play/fetch
> oriented, actively soliciting humans to throw items
> for it to retrieve.
You men he's hyperactive from repressive handling.
> The dog has no dog to dog (or dog to human)
> aggression problems. When the dog escapes it
> usually goes to the neighbors place to socialise
> with the occupants which were both human and canine.
Because they don't punish banish and ignore him.
> No matter how high the owners made the fences the
> dog always managed to find a way to jump it.
Yeah, that's called barrier frustration syndrome.
> Owners told the story of how the dog got injured
> jumping the side fence one day and ripped itself
> wide open, requiring veterinary treatment and over
> a hundred stitches. While the dog still had all
> the stitches in, it still jumped the fence although
> it could barely walk. The dog showed no interest in
> the cows that occupied the back paddock. At this point
> in the consultation, questioning of the owners was
> put 'on hold' for a cup of coffee and I proceeded
> to study the information gathered so far.
By now, in the time I've taken to copy and reply
to this page, my students would have introduced
their dogs to my TECHNIQUES and would be working
on PROOFING their dogs to stay in their perimeter.
> The following conclusions were drawn......
> CONCLUSIONS
> The dog only escaped when no one was home.
> The dog was well exercised and had a stimulating
> environment. The dog jumped the fence despite a
> crippling injury, therefore the dogs motivation
> to jump must be extremely high. Nothing could be
> found in the yard that could possibly compel the
> dog to jump (escape behaviour).
> Initial thoughts were of Seperation Anxiety (S/A)
> but the fact that the dog jumped the fence whilst
> injured and barely able to walk seemed uncharacteristic
> of normal S/A.
> Casual discussion with the owners continued over
> coffee. As is often the case, the one elusive
> critical piece of information emerged almost by
> accident.
You mena you GOT LUCKY, Grant?
Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p...@cfl.rr.com
To: Witsend...@aol.com
Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.
My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I
used this system on four different occasions.
When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.
I will write to Amanda about the video.
I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.
Thanks again
Paul
=========================
> The owner stated that for the first 18 months of
> the dogs life it was never left alone. If they ever
> went out they took the dog by car to friends around
> the road who would babysit the dog until the owners
> returned.
> This meant that the dog was conditioned from puppyhood
> that when the pack went 'on the hunt' by car that the
> dog always accompanied then. Effectively the dog was
> never conditioned to being left alone on any occasion.
CAUSED by the owner's ABSENCE, it's CAUSED
by MISHANDLING.
> Even after 18 months of age the dog was
> always baby sat. When the wife eventually
> started work, the dog was totally unprepared
> to be left alone.
Because his PUNISHER or CON-TROLLER wasn't there to
REASSURE the dog that he'd be HURT and INTIMIDATED
or bribed if he done something BAD, Grant.
> Rather than just seperation anxiety (S/A) we have
> chronic S/A with extremely high stress levels
You mean, you're blowin smoke up our arses again, Grant.
> creating an almost frantic desire to rejoin the
> departing pack. As is usually the case, this
> situation was created by the dogs owners.
You mean by giving IT too much attention, Grant?
From: "LESPERANCE/DEAKIN" <madea...@total.net>
Date: 1999/10/06
Subject: Re: Separation Anxiety
Well Jerry, I have to hand it to you. It worked!
Our dog was very well behaved until I had to go on the
road for my work this summer. I was gone twice for 10
long days each time. Although there were still people
home, I am the "primary care-giver" to my dog, so he
became destructive (shoes, books, rugs, papers etc)
We have a crate, but I believe it is too small for him
now - he is a cross golden/gsd and when he sits or stands
he cannot hold his head up as the top is too low, so I
didn't want to crate him while I went to work for sometimes
8 hours.
Anyway, I decided to try your method with the toy.
I would find a toy, tell it to be good and place it in
his crate. After just 3 days, there was no more destruction
in the house - even when daughter or hubby forgot to put
their shoes away! Now the toy stays in the crate all day,
and he even crawls in to be with the "good toy" when I leave.
He seems quite proud when we come home.
I have not tried the can thing - don't quite
understand that, so I think my dog may be confused too!
Marcie (Winslow's mom)
> Any other dog treated the same way would
> react similarly if not in an identical manner.
That's load of malarkey, Grant. The above CASE
HISTORY testimonial took five minutes to learn
and MOMENTS to apply and CURED the "problem"
INSANTLY as REPORTED BY OTHERS, Grant.
Date: 2001-11-14 09:13:21 PST
"Yves Dussault" <ydussa
...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> Hi!
> I have downloaded Wit's End Dog Training Method...
> In there there is that trick with a toy about
> "Separation anxiety surrogate toy technique."
> Anybody has tried that... I would like to give
> it a try with my GSP (German shorthair.....pointer)
> Comments? Yves Dussault
Yves,
I for one have tried it... in fact I use this all
the time. I just used it last evening while my
husband and I went out to see "The Mummy Returns"
(a horrible turkey of a movie, but at least the
house wasn't chewed from end to end in the meantime).
Yes, it really works. :-) So do the other
distraction/praise techniques described therein.
If you are interested in the manual, you will
probably want to begin the exercises as well.
Regards,
Lisa
===========
From: "LEE " <>
To: <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:11 AM
Subject: Wits end training in England
HOWEDY Lee,
> Hi,
> I have stumbled across your training method on the internet
EXCELLENT!
Nuthin happens by accident or coincidence.
> and I am pleased to say, one part of it has worked
> already after only 3 days of training.
Wonderful! Please follow the method entirely and
PRECISELY. It NEVER FAILS, but it's very unforgiving
of mistakes and doesn't play well with other methods.
> I own two boxers, one of which is a rescue dog who
> sufferred from 'seperation anxiety'
SA usually takes no more than WON day or two, to break.
> and would constantly chew his bedding in his crate
> when in the house alone. After only 2 sessions of
> praising his favourite nylon bone and leaving it in
> front of the crate before leaving, the behaviour is gone!
> Lee.
HOWETSTANDING!
> After I delivered my diagnosis they confirmed
> it with other bits of information. The dog always
> jumped the fence as they were driving away from
> the house. They often saw the dog in the rear
> vision mirror as they drove away from the house.
> Each time this happened they would stop the car,
> let the dog inside the car and drive it to a friends
> place to be looked after. (This action alone had
> a major reinforcing effect on the fence jumping)
They left the dog out in the yard when the left
because they COULDN'T TRUST IT in the house alone
because of his SEPARATION ANXIETY.
> SOLUTION
The Amazing Puppy Wizard PREFERS to use NON PHYSCIAL
C-HOWENTER CONditioning aka The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
Surrogate Toy Separation AnXXXIHOWESNESS / Bed Time
Calming / Fear Of Thunder / Car Sickness / Submissive
Urination / Obsessive Compulsive Masturbation / Chronic
Urinary Tract / Bladder / Irritable BHOWEL / Obsessive
Compulsive Marking / Spraying / Defecating Syndrome
Technique <{); ~ ) >
> As you would expect, any solution to this problem
> has to be two pronged. Firstly, condition the dog
> to being left alone for very short periods and then
> build the time frame up to a usable level.
That's a load of malarkey, Grant:
"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.
From: Chris Williams (k9ap...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST
Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.
A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.
She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.
============================
Chris Williams writes:
"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"
====================
From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo
Aloha Jerry,
Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.
Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!
Hoku
=================
"Hoku Beltz" <h
...@rsphawaii.com> wrote in message
Aloha Sunny,
Just follow the training program to the letter, no matter how
insignificant some of the step seem to be and your pupy will
be a very well behaved dog in a few days.
I would seriously consider backing out of the training classes
as they will conflict with the Wit's End principles.
I went the training route first, and still had problems until I
found Wits' End. Now I have two "new and improved" dogs.
You won't be dissapointed if you follow the program.
Good luck,
Hoku
==================
Dave Cohen <coh
...@total.net writes:
Hi.
Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.
I have no stake or interest in the success of his business.
I simply want to thank him publicly for one of his tips, with
regards to separation anxiety.
I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed animal
and then say good bye to my own dog, but I am usually a
very open minded person, so I tried it. Well, lo and behold-
the damn trick worked!
I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic.
Thank you Jerry!
************************************
> Secondly, the dogs S/A has to be treated.
That so?
> S/A is at its peak at the moment of the last pack
> members departure. So an activity was introduced
> to soothe and occupy the dog at that time. The dog
> was given a mutton flap or a rubber Kong filled with
> peanut butter.
That very seldom works because anxious dogs
do not want to play with toys or have treats.
Thinking you can give a toy or treat to a dog
to suffice his needs for direct attention is
ludicrous.
> This was given to the dog at the moment of the
> last pack members departure. Once the dog had
> finished its new activity the owners had departed
> and the dog was blissfully unaware of their absence.
Sez a lot for their RELATIONSHIP.
> This approach worked well and the dog
> now stays comfortably at home.
You think the dog won't jump the fence
if he wants to visit the neighbor, Grant?
You never did have to train this dog to
not jump the fence, Grant. HOWE do you
accomplish THAT, Grant?
Here's HOWE MY 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students all over the WHOLE WILD WORLD
perimeter train their dogs NEARLY INSTANTLY:
"misty" <Momi
...@webtv.net wrote in message news:
I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I
do know she's not here with us. I really can't
blame anyone here for her loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it
because of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling
to accept the idea that my using a shock collar
could have any bearing on Peach not wanting to
stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had
been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I
started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days
on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled
in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the
world now <g A Wits End Trained dog, one who is
completely housetrained, doesn't chew up stuff,
stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry!
=====================
"misty" <Momi
...@webtv.net wrote in message news:
We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to
come back in the yard and would run for days. The last
time, Peach didn't come back home.
I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to
train my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes
each day reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.
She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her
from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we
walk around the yard.
I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate
the e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a
regular fence then you need to train your dog. I
will never rely on an electronic collar to keep
my dog in our yard again.
The price was too high:-(
~misty
============
From: Nevyn (greatd...@badmama.com.au)
Subject: Re: radio fence
Date: 2003-11-05 04:17:45 PST
Hi folks,
In my opinion the use of a radioshock fence is a waste of
time, effort or money. I can understand it if you a rich snob
who cares nothing about their dogs safey or behaviours.
At work I boundary train all the dogs to the bricked area
(Four kennels with 26 cages with 1 dog in each, 1 services
building and 2 catterys which is surrounded by scrubland to
the east and woodlands to the north and a lake to the west).
This works well, because then when people buy them the dogs
are easier to boundary train to a door or fence or yard.
However on a personal note, my two shelter mutts, who I
trained using the WITS END DOG MANUAL available at
www.doggydoright.com will not go past the back door, or the
back gate or the front gate without permission.
And it is nice, for when you are having a party, you can leave
your gates open for people, and your dogs won't be the least
concerned.
I find this better then spending your well earned money on a
piece of junk Why not use it to invest in a horse? Or a new
house? Make a nice aquarium? Build a nursery for a child?
Save your money. Train your dog. Please. -- Thankyou,
Nevyn
_________________________________
Nevyn E.D. Veterinary Nurse
& Animal Trainer greatd...@badmama.com.au
"You can judge a man's heart by his treatment of animals"
__________________________________
From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaul_bou...@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Fence Jumping
Date: 2000-09-29 04:33:37 PST
Been well experienced in dogs escaping from our
yard I know exactly the frustration you are going
through. Sam used to jump over the fence so I
made it higher then we got Roz and she went
under it, through it and climbed over it.
I've decided there are only 2 ways to stop the escaping,
1 is to have an escape proof fence, the other to train the
dogs not to want to escape.
I suppose a third method is to keep them
inside but I don't consider that a solution.
Making the fence escape proof can be almost impossible
if the dog is determined, to stop it climbing over as yours
is doing put an extension on top of the fence that angles
inwards at about 30-45 degrees. Never use chicken wire
as the dogs tear through that like paper.
The only training method to prevent this I can recall is
Jerry's technique, essentially it involves walking around the
perimeter of the fenced area with the dog and using sound
distractions and praise to teach the dog it's boundary.
I have had partial success with it (i.e. I have deterred Roz
from escaping from various points along the fence) but then
again I haven't really followed it through completely.
One last glimmer of hope, as the dog gets older it may
become more settled, Sam never escapes now although
he's quite capable of getting out, he 2.5 years old and
seemed to settle at about 2. So there you are, only 1.5
years of escaping left!!!
Paul.
=================
From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbou...@clear.net.nz) Subject:
Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST
It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out
of a cat bowl without too much difficulty.
My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls
although Roz licks up any bits that have been
dropped around the bowls -)
I used a can with stones in it to create a
distraction anytime the dogs tried to eat
the cats food, followed with immediate praise.
It worked a treat.
The cats bowls are down all the time, usually
there is food left over but the dogs don't eat
it, even if we go out and leave the dogs with
access inside through a dog door.
Paul
--
>Seminars
>The Paw Man is available for discussion groups or Seminars.
>Topics included are;
> Dog Psychology (What really makes your dog tick)
> Canine Aggression (Dog to Dog & Dog to Human)
> Canine Body Language & its interaction with Human Body Language
> The principle of Threshold Of Discomfort (TOD)
> The correct application of Aversives and Praise
> These seminars can be aimed at any level from Novice to Instructor.
Do you think you could talk about your methods
in front of a criminal court and jury on charges
of animal abuse, Grant?
> The Paw Man also does maintenance training for
> dogs belonging to currently licensed Security
> Guards.
Like your associate trainer "alpha sweeney", Grant?
He got his skull crushed on a K-0 site because he
had his dog locked in a box in the patrol car.
> Dogs belonging to unlicensed persons will
> not be trained to be aggressive.
What does FEAR have to do with trained?
> The Paw Man reserves the right to refuse
> to train and dog or any handler for any reason.
Fortunately you're willing to talk on forums, eh Grant?
From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-15 12:
Alan,
The puppy wizard calls it as he sees it.
He isn't PC and that pisses people off.
The fact is that I have used his FREE
methods and they DO in fact work.
What a crock of shit relating his methods
to a science experiment.
Yes, the man is a cross posting menace
and has proly smoked too many batts in
his day but he has the canine species best
interest at heart and doesn't profit from his
point of view.
He is a selfless advocate for dogs and
that's enough for me to respect the man
no matter how controversial he gets.
Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
Mike
From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18
> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?
It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.
Works like a charm. My dogs get distracted easy
from their jobs ie, retrieving or training to find lost
people, oh did I mention that I am a Search and
Rescue Team Leader.
Sorry that slipped my mind.
I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.
Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left
over.
Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog. Seemed he learned through osmosis.
Nice side benefit there.
It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.
I tried it and it didn't work and guess what?
I was at my "Whits End" then someone I
knew turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.
I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.
I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks.
The first night home following Jerrys advice
we ditched the crate and put the pup on the
floor beside the bed and after 2 whimpers
NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG FOR
6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.
Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.
Mike
"melisande" <melisand
...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> I haven't quite finished reading the free chapter on
> your website,
It's moore than a chapter, it's a comprehensive,
total, complete, gestalt method to train all animals
to any level you desire.
> but it already worked miracles with our three dogs.
Excellent.
> The barking at the door has diminished so much
> that, well, frankly, we're stunned.
My methods work faster than any others, anywhere at
any price, including the thirty five level of medical grade
static like stimulation devices and pronged spiked pinch
choke collars our "experts" here love so much.
> We were sort of on the same page with you to begin
> with (no crates, no choke chains).
Good. Crates aren't inherently bad, only the way they're
misused.
> A lot of what you say reminds of my dad's techniques
> (he's an 84 year old dog lover,one of those about whom
> people say, "dogs really like him." He's
> never had a badly behaved dog.
Good. I've got a lot in common with folks who are gentle
and treat animals kindly.
> We'd never heard of the noise emphasis,
You mean the sound distraction and praise techniques.
> but the overall plan makes great sense.
Yes, one of my students Paul B wrote an excellent post
recently I'll include it at the bottom. It'll explain HOWE the
distraction and praise process works from his POV as an
experience handler using my methods.
> I did have a question. The hardest part for us to
> implement is the verbal praise only.
Why? That should be spontaneous and in association
with every glance towards you and every thought.
> It's so hard not to pet and stroke the dog (especially
> our seven month old).
Oh. Patting is O.K., only not in conjunction with a
thought or command, as it will interrupt the thought
process and may lock the dog's thoughts on an
inappropriate idea.
> Can you give me the rationale behind that?
It's called positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex.
Like if we're walking our dog and want to prevent him
from interacting with another dog, and we pull back
on the collar, that often triggers the dog to go out of
control.
As long as there's contact on the collar, the dog will
continue his original thoughts about interacting with
the passerby. Then because the dog is out of control,
the handler needs to further force restraint, making
communication with the dog's MIND, impossible.
> It will help me modify my own behavior.
Any time your dog is close enough to be patted is
fine to pat him, as long as we're not working with a
command or thought we want him to process.
> Anyway, your approach is amazing.
Yes, it's caused quite a stir here. If my methods are as
effective and fast and safe as I claim and my students
confirm, that pretty much means that all of my critics
are DEAD WRONG, and all's that's left for me to
do is shovel some dirt over them over and let 'em push
up daisies.
> Melisande
==========================
From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.
Hey J,
I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.
The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with the last.
I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.
I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.
The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.
Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.
I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.
See ya,
Paul
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<"Terri"@cyberhighway
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.
Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
>Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)
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rec.pets.dogs.behavior, rec.pets.dogs.misc
From: Barrnabas Collins <BarnabasCollinsonSFNOS...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: Employment Opportunities -
Must Be Simian Or It's Legal Guardian -
BABOONS NEED NOT APPLY.
On 17 Sep 2005 17:56:02 -0700,
AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaborat
...@HushMail.Com wrote:
> BABOONS NEED NOT APPLY.
>to include IN-HOWES visits from PROFESSIONAL
So they only go to How to stores like Home Depot?
This is a cat group. Why are you posting Dog spam here?
http://www.barnabascollins.blogspot.com
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From: "Sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005
Subject: Re: Employment Opportunities -
Must Be Simian Or It's Legal Guardian -
BABOONS NEED NOT APPLY.
> This is a cat group. Why are you posting Dog spam here?
And why are YOU re-crossposting his crap to the dog groups,
as well as to two other cat groups?? Check your headers, for
Christ's sake. (Not mine- I took out the crossposts to the dog
groups.) And while you're at it, do everyone a favor and killfile
the netkook rather than wasting everyone's bandwidth replying
to him.
Don't bother replying to me- I only read the dog groups,
so I won't see anything you say in the cat groups.
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