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Re-posting this snippet of a .behavior post here, as it's possibly of interest
Janet Boss wrote: >Nice, well meaning people, but there's no way I hand my > dogs over to anyone (petsitters here are not allowed to take dogs off > premises).
I'm the same way - on the rare occasions I've had someone else take care of my dogs, I've had the person ONLY let them out into the fenced yard. The only exception has been leaving Bren & Morag at Bob's house for a day (I dropped them off in the morning, came back that evening).
> But some are really, really scary. There is a woman who > lived on the next street over from me in the city. Her OWN dog was > roaming more often than not - yeah - I'd use her - not. She charged > neighbors for caring for their cats, only she had never come at all. > Fortunately, it was only a few days, and they survived, but geez > louise!
Good lord. Did they at least get their money back??
Speaking of scary stories..here's my current "favorite" petsitter/walker story:
There's a woman started coming to the main park within the last couple of months with a female Dane who is rather on the aggressive/bitchy side. Several times, she's had one other dog with her - a sucession of different dogs - which she doesn't always have under what I would call reasonable control. (For example, a Lab who was running around the park playing with other dogs, paying little or no attention to her, and took her 5 minutes or more to catch the dog when it was time to leave.) Seems that she pet-sits for dogs in her own home, and sometimes brings the client dogs to the park. Which she hasn't brought any who were *major* problems, but they're not dogs I, personally, would have taken out with me and let off leash were I responsible.
But I digress from the actual story... at any rate, a couple of weeks ago a friend and I encountered the Dane owner while walking laps, and she proceeded to tell us proudly that the Dane "might be pregnant". To our polite enquiry about who the sire was, she replied that she'd been dogsitting for an intact Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, and had allowed the dogs to mate. (I'm not clear on whether she encouraged it or it was an oops, but I got the impression it was deliberate.)
It gets better. THEN she proceeds to tell us how the CKCS's owner was surprised that her dog had been able to follow through, "because he's got a bad heart". Which apparently the Dane owner knew beforehand...
While I stood there with my mouth literally dropped open, the Dane's owner went on at great length about how she just KNOWS the puppies are going to be so cute and fluffy, and people are SURE to want them, because who wouldn't want such a cool "hybrid, and she's SURE she can get $500 or so apiece for them, and how she can really use the money she's going to make.....
Aside from the mind-boggle of anyone being happy their bitch had been bred by a male with a known inheritable heart defect, I find myself completely unable to visualize what the (at this point, still hypothetical) puppies would look like... other than suspecting they wouldn't turn out "cute and fluffy">
> who wouldn't want such a cool "hybrid, and she's SURE she can get $500 or > so apiece for them, and how she can really use the money she's going to > make.....
First things first:
Hit her for me. Really really hard.
> Aside from the mind-boggle of anyone being happy their bitch had been bred > by a male with a known inheritable heart defect, I find myself completely > unable to visualize what the (at this point, still hypothetical) puppies > would look like... other than suspecting they wouldn't turn out "cute and > fluffy">
I'm picturing the opposite of cute and fluffy actually. I see a fat round body attached to skinny long legs, a thick neck with a teeny tiny head that's mostly bug-eyes. Oh, and only slight curling of the fur. Not fluffy, more of a Jeri Curl thing, but without the volume. Oh, and the snarling while dropping dead of a heart attack isn't going to be cute either.
"Sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message: > While I stood there with my mouth literally dropped open, the Dane's owner > went on at great length about how she just KNOWS the puppies are going to be > so cute and fluffy, and people are SURE to want them, because who wouldn't > want such a cool "hybrid, and she's SURE she can get $500 or so apiece for > them, and how she can really use the money she's going to make.....
Good lord, take one Dane with temperament problems, breed it to a CKCS with health problems, and what you get is 'cute puppies everyone would want'? I'm with Tara on this one. Will help post bail if it comes to that.
At this point, about the only thing I am thankful for is that she didn't have a female CKCS that was bred by a male Dane.
> I find myself completely > unable to visualize what the (at this point, still hypothetical) puppies > would look like... other than suspecting they wouldn't turn out "cute and > fluffy"
That's an interesting question. What color is the Dane? Dane puppies fall quite strictly under the 'most definitely not cute and fluffy' category - all legs, and different body parts grow at different rate, so can be quite odd looking at times.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:52:49 -0400, "Suja" <spana...@scs.gmu.edu>, clicked their heels and said:
>Dane puppies fall >quite strictly under the 'most definitely not cute and fluffy' category - >all legs, and different body parts grow at different rate, so can be quite >odd looking at times.
I really like GD's, but agree - as young puppies, they just aren't the most attractive things around. I knew a dog that was (according to owner or dam) GD/FCR mix. Was a very gangly FCR looking dog for the most part. And NOT a nice dog.
> Aside from the mind-boggle of anyone being happy their bitch had been > bred by a male with a known inheritable heart defect, I find myself > completely unable to visualize what the (at this point, still > hypothetical) puppies would look like... other than suspecting they > wouldn't turn out "cute and fluffy">
Danes are homozygous for short coat LL, so although the pups will inherit the long coat allele l from the sire, they will all be short-coated Ll. They'll probably have softer and slightly longer coat than the Dane dam, but still short and not "fluffy".
If the Dane is black or blue, she will get a full litter of black pups. If she is fawn, she will get a full litter of different shades of red/fawn. If the Cav is piebald, pups might have some white on chest and paws. If the Dane is harl, things might get more interesting colorwise.
Size: closer to Dane, but not as big. Ears: lop. Muzzle: perhaps slightly shortened. Oh, she will get a litter of pit bull lookalikes!
> While I stood there with my mouth literally dropped open, the Dane's owner > went on at great length about how she just KNOWS the puppies are going to > be so cute and fluffy, and people are SURE to want them, because who > wouldn't want such a cool "hybrid, and she's SURE she can get $500 or so > apiece for them, and how she can really use the money she's going to > make.....
> Aside from the mind-boggle of anyone being happy their bitch had been bred > by a male with a known inheritable heart defect, I find myself completely > unable to visualize what the (at this point, still hypothetical) puppies > would look like... other than suspecting they wouldn't turn out "cute and > fluffy">
My prediction is that they will be kind of generic looking dogs - smooth coat, floppy ears, somewhere in middle of GD and Cav sized (60 pounders?). I suspect they will be biggish pups since they'll be developing inside a roomy GD womb. I also think that their "awwwww" time will be short - the period that they are small, cute, marketable and people gush over them. Smooth coated pups of biggish-large breeds are pretty cute until about 8 weeks but after that they get long and stringy. Well I think pups are cute even when they are lanky and goofy looking but they've definitely lost the "awwwww how adorable!" factor.
In article <Xns98304EC1F59E7lsarakoncchu...@195.197.54.116>, lsara...@cc.hut.fi says....
> Size: closer to Dane, but not as big. Ears: lop. Muzzle: perhaps slightly > shortened. Oh, she will get a litter of pit bull lookalikes!
That reminds me of a pup that was in a puppy agility class I took a while back. At first glance, he looked like a 3 month old Rottie. At second glance, one realized there was something not-quite-Rottie-but- really-close. Turns out he was a 5 month Spaniel-mixed-with-something- else-smallish (don't remember, but it sure wasn't Rottie). He never got any bigger, although he did grow some feathering on his ears which reduced the Rottie factor. -- Debbie the Dogged das at spamcop dot net http://web.newsguy.com/debbiethedogged/ "Poodles are space aliens who think they've disguised themselves as dogs." - Paghat the Ratgirl
Especially since we've now had an incident of the Dane approaching my dogs menacingly (head down, ears back, stalking motion), then going after Morag from behind - e.g. when Mw turned to walk away - after they'd circled warily. If she IS pregnant, it doesn't seem to be improving her disposition.
> Oh, and the snarling while dropping dead of a heart attack isn't going to > be cute either.
Ya think? :-P
BTW... does anyone here remember a poster a few years back who had a Cav/Cocker cross which DID have the heart defect? I seem to recall that the dog died of it....
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