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Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

dynam...@vianet.on.ca (Ken S. Tucker) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 07:57:12 UT

Let me get this straight.
The Nazi's build a pipeline to England for Sea Lion, then when the
Brits want to invade France they rent the pipeline from the Nazi's.
But Sunoco built and owns the pipeline and supplies oil to both
sides, so neither don't want to piss off Sunoco, so it's safe, and
nobody will bomb it.

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

p_stick...@verizon.net (Peter Stickney) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 07:24:15 UT

Ah, but the Allies did have operational ports.
They just brought them with them.

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

p_stick...@verizon.net (Peter Stickney) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 07:19:18 UT

Gooseberry, and Pluto,
Pluto was probably the most important.
It's a lot better to send fuel by pipeline than in tankers
or as break-bulk in barrels.

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

p_stick...@verizon.net (Peter Stickney) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 07:01:33 UT

Uhm, no, they didn't.
What North American did have were the wind tunnel data and
design calculations for the Curtiss XP-46, Curtiss's idea for a P-40 successor,
which didn't work so very well.
What North American did do was start the rough designs of the NA-73 before
the Brits came around looking for a second source of P-40s.

Re: JSF Price Tag Jumps to $135 Million

wombatho...@yahoo.com.au ( Sunny) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 05:15:09 UT

news:Hegpn.71557$PH1.6315@edtnps82...
Here in Australia our stupid Govt. has not yet cancelled orders for the
thing.
As for artillery, you have to get the tubes and ammo close enough first,
to support the Infantry. (Ex Grunt with 36 years service.)
We should have bought F15s to replace our F111 :-)

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

dynam...@vianet.on.ca (Ken S. Tucker) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 04:50:41 UT

Generally I didn't ask Old Boy direct questions of that sort of
nature,
I was a passive ear, I could say things like, "I understand such &
such"
then if he wanted he'd fill in the blanks.
He said he didn't like being a Corporal cuz all his friends were
Privates,
so I doubt he would accept a promotion, (Corporals had to snitch).

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

dynam...@vianet.on.ca (Ken S. Tucker) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 04:14:24 UT

No guff, "permanently bound to secrecy", the Old Boy was very
quiet when we visited Camp X. We'd visit veterans grave yards too,
it's hardly stories that you share with children.
I can say I felt it was important to be respectful.
Ken

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

b24...@aol.com (Dan) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 03:57:38 UT

"These are your secret orders on where you are to go. Do not open
them until you get there.
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

se...@nospammac.cominvalid (Steve Hix) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 03:27:57 UT

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rpitpyouuedieidieidyuuor...@hotmail.com (Bushite Nazi Grunts Deserve to Die) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 03:24:15 UT

The tyranny of censorship is what stops
our free words that speak for Justice
securing our dying freedoms. Send this
as your concern also why don't you
fight back to defend?
ArmyTimes "At least one in six service members is on some form of
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Typical Nazi grunt behaviour. Why? There is

Re: JSF Price Tag Jumps to $135 Million

dces...@hotmail.com (Arved Sandstrom) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 03:19:03 UT

It doesn't matter - the price tag is already well past anything that's
acceptable.
What's really ludicrous is the thought of using any planes this costly
as bomb trucks for ground support. Can you see putting a gold-plated
aircraft like this at risk of getting shot down by cheapo AAA? Just to
deliver some bombs in support of grunts? If it ever did happen, the

JSF Price Tag Jumps to $135 Million

dumpst...@hotmail.com — Sun, 21 mar 2010 02:54:46 UT

"Pressure is building from lawmakers on the Hill for
the Navy and Marines to buy more Hornets as the
current fleet gets older and the arrival date for the
JSF continues to slip."
See:
[link]
How expensive is the JSF going to get?

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

b24...@aol.com (Dan) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 02:27:14 UT

I never said one was debriefed by someone of the same rank. Debrief
has to be done by someone who knows the systems, in the case of
maintenance, and someone who knows the mission, in the case of
operations. Even with checklists there may be questions that need to be
asked. In your tail gunner case wouldn't it be nice to have someone who

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

am.swal...@btopenworld.com (Andrew Swallow) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 01:38:01 UT

Dan wrote:
{snip}
If basically you are debriefed by someone of your own rank, what rank
were the tail gunners?
Andrew Swallow

Re: "Vanishing American Air Superiority"

am.swal...@btopenworld.com (Andrew Swallow) — Sun, 21 mar 2010 01:22:20 UT

Churchill had only been in office for a few weeks when Hess flew over.
A big loss does not make a new leader's job secure. Hess may have been
trying to conspire with Churchill's rivals - Chamberlain (more
appeasement) or Lord Halifax (negotiated settlement). Either being
in power would have made it easier for Germany to attack the USSR.