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hello everyone ,
i am rahul from india. currently pursuing my engineering in computer
science .
i am very much enthusiastic about English literature , even though i
am poor in it . i believe that it only languages that connect humans .
English being the universal language , i guess its the harbinger of
love and affection .i hope i have great fun here .
Hello RahulHow are you Welcome to the group I am sure you will have fun here I am a little surprise that you from india do not speak English well as India was rule by the British for a long time I have found that most of the indians from India speak English very well I know quite a few
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:41 AM, rahul <rahul8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hello everyone , > i am rahul from india. currently pursuing my engineering in computer > science . > i am very much enthusiastic about English literature , even though i > am poor in it . i believe that it only languages that connect humans . > English being the universal language , i guess its the harbinger of > love and affection .i hope i have great fun here .
Hi everyone,
I am from India. I am from village background so my english is bad.I
am trying so I join this group.
I work as a planning executive. I want to improve my English to work
outside India and make more money.
I aplogise for mistakes.
Hello Nitin Welcome Nitin how are you I hope you enjoy your time here and do not worry about making mistake we all make mistakes
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:30 PM, nitin <complete.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone, > I am from India. I am from village background so my english is bad.I > am trying so I join this group. > I work as a planning executive. I want to improve my English to work > outside India and make more money. > I aplogise for mistakes.
> Hello Nitin Welcome Nitin how are you I hope you enjoy your time here and > do not worry about making mistake we all make mistakes
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:30 PM, nitin <complete.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone, >> I am from India. I am from village background so my english is bad.I >> am trying so I join this group. >> I work as a planning executive. I want to improve my English to work >> outside India and make more money. >> I aplogise for mistakes.
I will really like to know why will someone write "Keep It Simple, Stupid!" at the end of their mail was this meant to be funny I am sorry to say but I do not find it funny
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Liu Zhuan <liuzhuank...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Nitin, > Just try to say more English, > don't worry about the mistake.
> There're so many warm-hearted English teacher, > and everyone is happy to help!
> Liu
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:49 AM, ria sieunarine <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> Hello Nitin Welcome Nitin how are you I hope you enjoy your time here and >> do not worry about making mistake we all make mistakes
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:30 PM, nitin <complete.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone, >>> I am from India. I am from village background so my english is bad.I >>> am trying so I join this group. >>> I work as a planning executive. I want to improve my English to work >>> outside India and make more money. >>> I aplogise for mistakes.
It's an idiom related to one principle of design that states that
simplicity must be observed in order to avoid unnecessary complexity
in a wide array of disciplines (as I see) [1].
That phrase has been around for at least 40 years, there are books
named after it [2]. Anyway, I agree. It doesn't fit here.
> I will really like to know why will someone write "Keep It Simple, Stupid!"
> at the end of their mail was this meant to be funny I am sorry to say but I
> do not find it funny
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM, pchamorro <pchamorro2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ria,
> It's an idiom related to one principle of design that states that > simplicity must be observed in order to avoid unnecessary complexity > in a wide array of disciplines (as I see) [1].
> That phrase has been around for at least 40 years, there are books > named after it [2]. Anyway, I agree. It doesn't fit here.
> On Jul 1, 7:13 pm, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I will really like to know why will someone write "Keep It Simple, > Stupid!" > > at the end of their mail was this meant to be funny I am sorry to say but > I > > do not find it funny
I was rather disturbed when I read comments like those you,Ria and
Pablo,whom I consider open-minded members made...
Of course,it's not proper to use this word"stupid"to kids or younger
students,but if you have a sense of humour and some common sense to
think as a devoted teacher,you would understand the CONCEPT of this
teaching method...
How to get brand new ideas/vocabulary/verb tenses/idioms,etc(if you
teach a language)across to
students who should learn something important and complex in a clear
and concise way...that's what experienced teachers' definition of
BEING STUPID.(I have seen a lot of SHOWY teachers who try very hard to
confuse their students because they believe if they present their
lessons too easily,students won't feel impressed.LOL)
It's actually a kind of JARGON among language teachers,but it can
apply to any other fields in life or work,I suppose.
So if Liu,as a brilliant student;),found this jargon useful and took
it as a motto for himself,why not?;)
Good day,
Pauline
On Jul 2, 6:31 am, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you telling me that there are books name after this phrase "Keep It
> Simple, Stupid! and if it is so I find it very offensive
> In the household that I was raise in we were never allow to use the word
> "Stupid" as it was viewed as very disrespectful
> Thank you Pablo for the info
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM, pchamorro <pchamorro2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Ria,
> > It's an idiom related to one principle of design that states that
> > simplicity must be observed in order to avoid unnecessary complexity
> > in a wide array of disciplines (as I see) [1].
> > That phrase has been around for at least 40 years, there are books
> > named after it [2]. Anyway, I agree. It doesn't fit here.
> > On Jul 1, 7:13 pm, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I will really like to know why will someone write "Keep It Simple,
> > Stupid!"
> > > at the end of their mail was this meant to be funny I am sorry to say but
> > I
> > > do not find it funny
First let me explain the meaning of my "Keep It Simple,Stupid". I learn this principle from a book named *The Art of UNIX Programming*, which deal with the history and underlying philosophy of UNIX. When we solve a big or seemingly hard problem, we should try to break it into smaller and simpler portions, so that we can overcome it one by one.
Of course there's no disrespect at all. It's just a reminder that don't make things too harder than it should be. Maybe I should remove the excalmatory mark, so that it may become easier to read. :D The *!* looks like I'm shouting at somebody.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:40 PM, styczen5 <stycz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Pablo Ria Liu and friends,
> I was rather disturbed when I read comments like those you,Ria and > Pablo,whom I consider open-minded members made...
> Of course,it's not proper to use this word"stupid"to kids or younger > students,but if you have a sense of humour and some common sense to > think as a devoted teacher,you would understand the CONCEPT of this > teaching method... > How to get brand new ideas/vocabulary/verb tenses/idioms,etc(if you > teach a language)across to > students who should learn something important and complex in a clear > and concise way...that's what experienced teachers' definition of > BEING STUPID.(I have seen a lot of SHOWY teachers who try very hard to > confuse their students because they believe if they present their > lessons too easily,students won't feel impressed.LOL)
> It's actually a kind of JARGON among language teachers,but it can > apply to any other fields in life or work,I suppose.
> So if Liu,as a brilliant student;),found this jargon useful and took > it as a motto for himself,why not?;)
> Good day, > Pauline > On Jul 2, 6:31 am, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Pablo
> > Are you telling me that there are books name after this phrase "Keep It > > Simple, Stupid! and if it is so I find it very offensive
> > In the household that I was raise in we were never allow to use the word > > "Stupid" as it was viewed as very disrespectful
> > Thank you Pablo for the info
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM, pchamorro <pchamorro2...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > > Hi Ria,
> > > It's an idiom related to one principle of design that states that > > > simplicity must be observed in order to avoid unnecessary complexity > > > in a wide array of disciplines (as I see) [1].
> > > That phrase has been around for at least 40 years, there are books > > > named after it [2]. Anyway, I agree. It doesn't fit here.
> > > On Jul 1, 7:13 pm, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I will really like to know why will someone write "Keep It Simple, > > > Stupid!" > > > > at the end of their mail was this meant to be funny I am sorry to say > but > > > I > > > > do not find it funny
Hi Pauline Why were you disturbed you were quick to say that you are open minded so be open minded and respect my opinion I work with kids and they are not allowed to use that word and it have never been part of my vocabulary you can choose to use what ever language you wish I do not have to read it that will be my choice
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:40 AM, styczen5 <stycz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Pablo Ria Liu and friends,
> I was rather disturbed when I read comments like those you,Ria and > Pablo,whom I consider open-minded members made...
> Of course,it's not proper to use this word"stupid"to kids or younger > students,but if you have a sense of humour and some common sense to > think as a devoted teacher,you would understand the CONCEPT of this > teaching method... > How to get brand new ideas/vocabulary/verb tenses/idioms,etc(if you > teach a language)across to > students who should learn something important and complex in a clear > and concise way...that's what experienced teachers' definition of > BEING STUPID.(I have seen a lot of SHOWY teachers who try very hard to > confuse their students because they believe if they present their > lessons too easily,students won't feel impressed.LOL)
> It's actually a kind of JARGON among language teachers,but it can > apply to any other fields in life or work,I suppose.
> So if Liu,as a brilliant student;),found this jargon useful and took > it as a motto for himself,why not?;)
> Good day, > Pauline > On Jul 2, 6:31 am, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Pablo
> > Are you telling me that there are books name after this phrase "Keep It > > Simple, Stupid! and if it is so I find it very offensive
> > In the household that I was raise in we were never allow to use the word > > "Stupid" as it was viewed as very disrespectful
> > Thank you Pablo for the info
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM, pchamorro <pchamorro2...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > > Hi Ria,
> > > It's an idiom related to one principle of design that states that > > > simplicity must be observed in order to avoid unnecessary complexity > > > in a wide array of disciplines (as I see) [1].
> > > That phrase has been around for at least 40 years, there are books > > > named after it [2]. Anyway, I agree. It doesn't fit here.
> > > On Jul 1, 7:13 pm, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I will really like to know why will someone write "Keep It Simple, > > > Stupid!" > > > > at the end of their mail was this meant to be funny I am sorry to say > but > > > I > > > > do not find it funny
Like word there is a lot of meaning for same abbreviations:
AcronymDefinitionKISSKeep It Simple, StupidKISSKeep It Short & SimpleKISSKeep It Simple and StupidKISSKeep It Simple SillyKISSKeep It Simple SystemsKISSKeep It Simple, SaintKISSKeep It Simple, SirKISSKeep It Simple, StatisticallyKISSKeep It Simple, StudentsKISSKeep It Simple, SweetheartKISSKeep It Simple, Sweetie KISSKeep It Small and SimpleKISSKeep It Stupidly SimpleKISSKeep It Super SimpleKISSKEK Information Service System (Tsukuba, Japan)KISSKid's Identity Suddenly Sixteen (Kids Next Door show)KISSKids In the Savior's ServiceKISSKids Invite Someone SpecialKiSSKisekae Set System (Japanese language and culture) KISSKnights In Satan's ServiceKISSKorean Intelligence Support SystemKISSKristen Iteration Selection and Sequention (method)KISSKernel Improved Security SystemKISSKey Information Service Specification of course there is word we can´t use in every place, in formal business is an example .
Another new word!. Thank you!. As always we bring us something
interesting/new in every of your posts.
> confuse their students because they believe if they present their
> lessons too easily,students won't feel impressed.LOL)
Yeah. Some teachers e.g. keep speaking too fast to their students and
don't make enough effort to get themselves be understood. Perhaps
because they have to stick to workbooks, or simply perhaps they aren't
competent or are arrogant.
Ria,
I know exactly your point.
The reason I responded to your earlier comments is because the word
STUPID for Liu is a method/concept to slove problems,but for you it's
a horrifying word that no one should ever utter at any occaision.
I used to teach large groups of kids mixed from 6 to 14 years old,and
I'm quite aware of not using this word as a teacher and among
students...besides,I have 2 small kids aged 4 and 7 myself.
What I'm trying to say is that please try to be more tolerant to other
members.The world will be a better place!
If I offend you again,please do forgive me!
I'm used to speaking my mind when something bothers me...So please put
up with me again!LOL
Best,
Pauline(who can't keep her mouth shut;))
On Jul 2, 4:02 pm, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Pauline
> Why were you disturbed you were quick to say that you are open minded so be
> open minded and respect my opinion
> I work with kids and they are not allowed to use that word and it have never
> been part of my vocabulary you can choose
> to use what ever language you wish I do not have to read it that will be my
> choice
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:40 AM, styczen5 <stycz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Pablo Ria Liu and friends,
> > I was rather disturbed when I read comments like those you,Ria and
> > Pablo,whom I consider open-minded members made...
> > Of course,it's not proper to use this word"stupid"to kids or younger
> > students,but if you have a sense of humour and some common sense to
> > think as a devoted teacher,you would understand the CONCEPT of this
> > teaching method...
> > How to get brand new ideas/vocabulary/verb tenses/idioms,etc(if you
> > teach a language)across to
> > students who should learn something important and complex in a clear
> > and concise way...that's what experienced teachers' definition of
> > BEING STUPID.(I have seen a lot of SHOWY teachers who try very hard to
> > confuse their students because they believe if they present their
> > lessons too easily,students won't feel impressed.LOL)
> > It's actually a kind of JARGON among language teachers,but it can
> > apply to any other fields in life or work,I suppose.
> > So if Liu,as a brilliant student;),found this jargon useful and took
> > it as a motto for himself,why not?;)
> > Good day,
> > Pauline
> > On Jul 2, 6:31 am, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Pablo
> > > Are you telling me that there are books name after this phrase "Keep It
> > > Simple, Stupid! and if it is so I find it very offensive
> > > In the household that I was raise in we were never allow to use the word
> > > "Stupid" as it was viewed as very disrespectful
> > > Thank you Pablo for the info
> > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM, pchamorro <pchamorro2...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi Ria,
> > > > It's an idiom related to one principle of design that states that
> > > > simplicity must be observed in order to avoid unnecessary complexity
> > > > in a wide array of disciplines (as I see) [1].
> > > > That phrase has been around for at least 40 years, there are books
> > > > named after it [2]. Anyway, I agree. It doesn't fit here.
> > > > On Jul 1, 7:13 pm, "ria sieunarine" <oneredsilkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I will really like to know why will someone write "Keep It Simple,
> > > > Stupid!"
> > > > > at the end of their mail was this meant to be funny I am sorry to say
> > but
> > > > I
> > > > > do not find it funny
i read a book ,how to win friends and influencs people-----
writed by Dale Carnegie------, this year . Thanks for you interesting
in me .
>I like football, but just seeing. I cannot play it very well. That is
>a shame since I am a Brazilain. I am seeing now the final of a
>championship here called Brazil Cup. The finalists are one team from
>the state of São Paulo and the other is team from the state of
>Pernambuco. Do you know the name of any team from my country?
You are so humer, i think you are a very kind man. I known the team
whose name is Brazil São Paulo, and some other team in Brazil football
tournament, unfortunately, some word beyond my spelling capacity now.
>So, do you like Linux? Which distribution do you use?
i install Redhat 6.3 which is very old , and i have not update for
long time. but i use Vim , a editor, fluently.
>What do you mean by "English feeling"?
Sometimes, English is a intuition. for example, if i see a English
program for three hours, than all my thought is expressed in English.
Kevin will not disappeared easily.
--------------------------------------------------------
I have no electric dictionary today, there maybe some spell errors in
my "Reply", next time i will carry my dictionary to eradicate spell
errors.
Best regards.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------
Cite:
Thank you Rosa for giving such an accurate group induction!
Sometimes I feel a bit discouraged to welcome new members because so
many of them didn't show up later at all or disappeared after 1 or 2
messages...:)
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Penguin <tian...@sina.com> wrote:
> Kevin shows up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Hello: > to all members including Eduardo Rocha
> i read a book ,how to win friends and influencs people----- > writed by Dale Carnegie------, this year . Thanks for you interesting > in me .
> >I like football, but just seeing. I cannot play it very well. That is > >a shame since I am a Brazilain. I am seeing now the final of a > >championship here called Brazil Cup. The finalists are one team from > >the state of São Paulo and the other is team from the state of > >Pernambuco. Do you know the name of any team from my country?
> You are so humer, i think you are a very kind man. I known the team > whose name is Brazil São Paulo, and some other team in Brazil football > tournament, unfortunately, some word beyond my spelling capacity now.
> >So, do you like Linux? Which distribution do you use? > i install Redhat 6.3 which is very old , and i have not update for > long time. but i use Vim , a editor, fluently.
> >What do you mean by "English feeling"? > Sometimes, English is a intuition. for example, if i see a English > program for three hours, than all my thought is expressed in English.
> Kevin will not disappeared easily. > --------------------------------------------------------
> I have no electric dictionary today, there maybe some spell errors in > my "Reply", next time i will carry my dictionary to eradicate spell > errors.
> Best regards.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Cite: > Thank you Rosa for giving such an accurate group induction! > Sometimes I feel a bit discouraged to welcome new members because so > many of them didn't show up later at all or disappeared after 1 or 2 > messages...:)
> Hi Kevin, thank you for participate! Hi all mebers!
> I would like to answer one of your questions, but I can't.
> Sorry, I don't like football (LOL)
> Hey Ed, could you reply some of his questions?
> Best wishes.
> Peace to you all!
> Rosa - from brazil
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Penguin <tian...@sina.com> wrote:
>> Kevin shows up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Hello: >> to all members including Eduardo Rocha
>> i read a book ,how to win friends and influencs people----- >> writed by Dale Carnegie------, this year . Thanks for you interesting >> in me .
>> >I like football, but just seeing. I cannot play it very well. That is >> >a shame since I am a Brazilain. I am seeing now the final of a >> >championship here called Brazil Cup. The finalists are one team from >> >the state of São Paulo and the other is team from the state of >> >Pernambuco. Do you know the name of any team from my country?
>> You are so humer, i think you are a very kind man. I known the team >> whose name is Brazil São Paulo, and some other team in Brazil football >> tournament, unfortunately, some word beyond my spelling capacity now.
>> >So, do you like Linux? Which distribution do you use? >> i install Redhat 6.3 which is very old , and i have not update for >> long time. but i use Vim , a editor, fluently.
>> >What do you mean by "English feeling"? >> Sometimes, English is a intuition. for example, if i see a English >> program for three hours, than all my thought is expressed in English.
>> Kevin will not disappeared easily. >> --------------------------------------------------------
>> I have no electric dictionary today, there maybe some spell errors in >> my "Reply", next time i will carry my dictionary to eradicate spell >> errors.
>> Best regards.
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- >> Cite: >> Thank you Rosa for giving such an accurate group induction! >> Sometimes I feel a bit discouraged to welcome new members because so >> many of them didn't show up later at all or disappeared after 1 or 2 >> messages...:)
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Rosa <rosa.contatos.onl...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> Hi Kevin, thank you for participate! Hi all mebers!
>> I would like to answer one of your questions, but I can't.
>> Sorry, I don't like football (LOL)
>> Hey Ed, could you reply some of his questions?
>> Best wishes.
>> Peace to you all!
>> Rosa - from brazil
>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Penguin <tian...@sina.com> wrote:
>>> Kevin shows up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> Hello: >>> to all members including Eduardo Rocha
>>> i read a book ,how to win friends and influencs people----- >>> writed by Dale Carnegie------, this year . Thanks for you interesting >>> in me .
>>> >I like football, but just seeing. I cannot play it very well. That is >>> >a shame since I am a Brazilain. I am seeing now the final of a >>> >championship here called Brazil Cup. The finalists are one team from >>> >the state of São Paulo and the other is team from the state of >>> >Pernambuco. Do you know the name of any team from my country?
>>> You are so humer, i think you are a very kind man. I known the team >>> whose name is Brazil São Paulo, and some other team in Brazil football >>> tournament, unfortunately, some word beyond my spelling capacity now.
>>> >So, do you like Linux? Which distribution do you use? >>> i install Redhat 6.3 which is very old , and i have not update for >>> long time. but i use Vim , a editor, fluently.
>>> >What do you mean by "English feeling"? >>> Sometimes, English is a intuition. for example, if i see a English >>> program for three hours, than all my thought is expressed in English.
>>> Kevin will not disappeared easily. >>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> I have no electric dictionary today, there maybe some spell errors in >>> my "Reply", next time i will carry my dictionary to eradicate spell >>> errors.
>>> Best regards.
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- >>> Cite: >>> Thank you Rosa for giving such an accurate group induction! >>> Sometimes I feel a bit discouraged to welcome new members because so >>> many of them didn't show up later at all or disappeared after 1 or 2 >>> messages...:)
> i read a book ,how to win friends and influencs people-----
> writed by Dale Carnegie------, this year . Thanks for you interesting
> in me .
> >I like football, but just seeing. I cannot play it very well. That is
> >a shame since I am a Brazilain. I am seeing now the final of a
> >championship here called Brazil Cup. The finalists are one team from
> >the state of São Paulo and the other is team from the state of
> >Pernambuco. Do you know the name of any team from my country?
> You are so humer, i think you are a very kind man. I known the team
> whose name is Brazil São Paulo, and some other team in Brazil football
> tournament, unfortunately, some word beyond my spelling capacity now.
> >So, do you like Linux? Which distribution do you use?
> i install Redhat 6.3 which is very old , and i have not update for
> long time. but i use Vim , a editor, fluently.
> >What do you mean by "English feeling"?
> Sometimes, English is a intuition. for example, if i see a English
> program for three hours, than all my thought is expressed in English.
> Kevin will not disappeared easily.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> I have no electric dictionary today, there maybe some spell errors in
> my "Reply", next time i will carry my dictionary to eradicate spell
> errors.
> Best regards.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------
> Cite:
> Thank you Rosa for giving such an accurate group induction!
> Sometimes I feel a bit discouraged to welcome new members because so
> many of them didn't show up later at all or disappeared after 1 or 2
> messages...:)
Hello! My name is Adriana, I'm 26, I live in Corrientes Argentina, I study accounting, this is my last year (I hope). I want to say thanks to Pablo because he invited to me to join this group, I'm interested in your topics, I'll try to participate all that I can. I need practise English because I'm attending in a English course.
You are more than welcome! Practice is very important, and the
participation of every new member is valuable for all of us. The more
we all practice the more we will improve. Here you will find very
good friends too.
Pablo
On Jul 7, 11:32 am, "Adriana Romero" <adriana3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello! My name is Adriana, I'm 26, I live in Corrientes Argentina, I study
> accounting, this is my last year (I hope).
> I want to say thanks to Pablo because he invited to me to join this group,
> I'm interested in your topics, I'll try to participate all that I can.
> I need practise English because I'm attending in a English course.
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