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I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have time to reply to
the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I don't like it. I
wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you all the best,
Josney
> Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
> You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how many 'LOL'
> in my previous post,aren't you?;)
> It's just coincidental,of course!
> But after reading your mischievious message dated Saturday,June 6th,I
> recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
> According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of Satan or
> something like that,isn't it?!:(
> And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for Chinese,isn't
> it?
> OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign again?!LOL
> And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese or
> Taiwanese I've known.
> You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or view
> towards life,work and Europe.;)
> Very true!In order to experience everything abroad first hand,one has
> to comprehend the local language as to interact with the locals as
> well!
> I've never travelled to any places with groups of tourists organised
> by travel agencies.
> What kind of adventures can one have if it's second-hand?!
> Doesn't anyone agree with me?;)
> By the way,Pablo,I haven't got time to watch the talk you mentioned
> yesterday yet...:(
> I'll do it hopefully tomorrow and let you know what I think!
> Beautiful Sunday to you three,Edward,Josney and the rest of
> unresponsive members!;)
> Pln
> On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > One,two,three,four,five,six.There are six "LOL" here.It must be a bad
> week
> > for you,six "LOL" in six days,
> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> > > it is ok, i am 20.
> > > I think it is really necessary have a good command of native language
> if i
> > > want to find a job there. but well, i can pretend have no idea about
> dutch.
> > > i will keep the book in my mind,hehe,undutchable.
> > > i think the best way to know people's mind and culture is learning
> their
> > > language.
> > > well, in my opinion, old continent with old cities have a lot of fun,
> we
> > > can image we had been through the history stories. I dont think the new
> > > cities with skyscrapers attract me. I think the only reason I want to
> live a
> > > big new city is high salary.
> > > I think young people should have some special dreams, like work in NGO,
> > > travelling around the world and ect. and work for living is a middle
> aged
> > > man's thinking.
> > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Hi John Charles and all again,
> > >> How old are you,John?If you don't mind telling us here...;)
> > >> Mind you that Dutch people are rather wary of foreigners who
> > >> understand their language too well!LOL
> > >> How did I know it?
> > >> Because we bought a book in a small town there and it's called "The
> > >> Undutchable"!LOL
> > >> It's a book worth reading since you're going to study there.
> > >> It's all about Dutch people's mentality and behaviours...something you
> > >> can say about their unspeakable secrets;) or some sort...LOL
> > >> I only knew Eindhoven while passing through by train several
> > >> times,that's all!
> > >> English is very common in Western Europe as people there,especially in
> > >> Holland,Belgium,Switzerland or Luxemburg are multilingual.
> > >> I don't think my husband will have interest in going especially to see
> > >> the music fountain in Hangzhou at night.
> > >> We are alternative travellers which means quite different from
> > >> ordinary tourists...LOL
> > >> He'd been suffering from a terrible jet lag and without doubt,after he
> > >> got used to it,he'll have to adjust to another jet lag back home!LOL
> > >> It's interesting that you think Europe is suitable for young people.A
> > >> lot of Taiwanese or American I know told me it's a too old continent
> > >> where everything you see is just ancient architecture or museums!LOL
> > >> Anyhow,Great weekend again to us all!
> > >> Pln
> > >> On Jun 5, 3:20 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > yes, indeed, about a decade ago, the Communist Party want to show
> their
> > >> > kindness to Taiwanese and wish investing, make a easy visiting plan
> to
> > >> > taiwanese, but taiwan authorities still think chinese government
> will
> > >> > send communists
> > >> > to the island, so it is really bad for tourists like me. These
> things
> > >> should
> > >> > be belong to the dammed politics,. lol
> > >> > I will study in Eindhoven, it is a industrial city, where the center
> of
> > >> > philps is located, and a famous football club psv eindhoven.
> > >> > I think europe is suit for young people, there are so many countries
> and
> > >> > places to visit and to settle. and young people are full of energy,
> can
> > >> > learn different languages easily. in this point, i think it is a
> little
> > >> bit
> > >> > difficult for old people.
> > >> > I will study computer there, basicly focus on software.
> > >> > Hangzhou is really hot right now, you should tell him to watch the
> music
> > >> > fountain on the west lake in the dark, it is a new site, but
> interesting
> > >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > Oh,yes,John!
> > >> > > I forgot about the difficulty of your getting a visa as an
> independent
> > >> > > tourist ...You're right!:(
> > >> > > Mainland Chinese and Taiwanese governments aren't that friendly as
> > >> > > people like you and me,are they?LOL
> > >> > > Oh,well,never mind since you'll be studying in Holland this fall
> soon!
> > >> > > Where in Holland will you be studying?
> > >> > > My husband and I had been in and out the countries so many times a
> > >> > > decade ago because we had plans settling down there...
> > >> > > The last time when we were in 2 cities there was 2.5 years ago
> with
> > >> > > our kids.
> > >> > > I aslo encouraged Elham to choose Europe to study instead of USA.
> > >> > > Every country in Europe has its own characteristics and charm,and
> you
> > >> > > are so close to every other country by train on the weekend!
> > >> > > If it's fun,diversity or cultural events that you're looking
> > >> > > for,Europe is the place!;)
> > >> > > By the way,what is subject of your studies?
> > >> > > One more thing,my husband is going to Hangzhou tomorrow just for a
> > >> > > short while...then to Cixi,Ningbo and Shanghai before he returns
> home
> > >> > > to Poland...
> > >> > > Oh,he's flying Air France,too!:( I am very worried about his
> return
> > >> > > flight because he will stop in DE Gaule Airport before he flies
> back
> > >> > > to Warsaw...:(
> > >> > > MY HEART IS WITH ALL THE BRAZILIAN and FRENCH VICTIMS on AIR
> FRANCE
> > >> > > 447 and THEIR REMAINING LOVED ONES!!!:(
> > >> > > Good luck and good day,everyone!
> > >> > > Take real good care of yourselves!
> > >> > > Pln
> > >> > > On Jun 2, 2:41 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > > hehe, but it is not easy get the visa if i will choose travel
> taiwan
> > >> by
> > >> > > > myself, cause i am come from continent. and in this fall, i will
> > >> start my
> > >> > > > study in holland, so i am afraid i won't get this chance. i
> would
> > >> like
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > travel around europe, it is the different world, I am sure i
> will
> > >> look
> > >> > > for
> > >> > > > fun
> > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > > > > Wow,you're online,John!
> > >> > > > > I'll add you as my contact on skype then.
> > >> > > > > If you look harder or travel further outside
> > >> Taipei,Taichung,Kaoshiung
> > >> > > > > and other bigger cities,
> > >> > > > > yes,there are more interesting,natural,cleaner,friendlier
> places
> > >> and
> > >> > > > > people to meet!;)
> > >> > > > > If by any chance,you'll be paying Taiwan a visit,do tell me
> and
> > >> I'll
> > >> > > > > ask my acquaintances or friends to help you whatever they
> can!;)
> > >> > > > > Cheers,
> > >> > > > > Pln
> > >> > > > > On Jun 2, 1:52 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > hi pln471 and all
> > >> > > > > > I find my skype account, the name is meslamdunk. So u r
> > >> taiwanese, i
> > >> > > > > think
> > >> > > > > > taiwan has many beautiful palces. I wish some day i will
> take a
> > >> > > visit
> > >> > > > > > there.
> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:00 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > Hi John and all,
> > >> > > > > > > You're right!Shanghai is his 1st destination in China,then
> > >> Ningpuao
> > >> > > > > > > (?),Beijing,Gingpuao(?) and another town I can't recall
> the
> > >> > > name...:(
> > >> > > > > > > He wanted to go to Hangzhou or Suzhou,but failed to find
> any
> > >> > > cheaper
> > >> > > > > > > hotel rooms available there...Tough luck!;)
> > >> > > > > > > We had a very close senior friend who was originally from
> > >> > > Hangzhou,but
> > >> > > > > > > she passed away last January.:(
> > >> > > > > > > I'm originally from Taiwan,but have been living in Poland
> with
> > >> my
> > >> > > > > > > Polish-born husband and Taiwanese-born children for the
> last
> > >> 2.5
> > >> > > > > > > years!
> > >> > > > > > > My husband will be like a fish in
Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
board!
I really do!;)
Unless others have something to complain about,then speak up,please!
LOL
Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
Accomplished in some ways!
Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast
members!LOL
Good night,
Pln
On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <josney.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have time to reply to
> the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I don't like it. I
> wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you all the best,
> Josney
> > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
> > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how many 'LOL'
> > in my previous post,aren't you?;)
> > It's just coincidental,of course!
> > But after reading your mischievious message dated Saturday,June 6th,I
> > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
> > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of Satan or
> > something like that,isn't it?!:(
> > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for Chinese,isn't
> > it?
> > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign again?!LOL
> > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese or
> > Taiwanese I've known.
> > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or view
> > towards life,work and Europe.;)
> > Very true!In order to experience everything abroad first hand,one has
> > to comprehend the local language as to interact with the locals as
> > well!
> > I've never travelled to any places with groups of tourists organised
> > by travel agencies.
> > What kind of adventures can one have if it's second-hand?!
> > Doesn't anyone agree with me?;)
> > By the way,Pablo,I haven't got time to watch the talk you mentioned
> > yesterday yet...:(
> > I'll do it hopefully tomorrow and let you know what I think!
> > Beautiful Sunday to you three,Edward,Josney and the rest of
> > unresponsive members!;)
> > Pln
> > On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > One,two,three,four,five,six.There are six "LOL" here.It must be a bad
> > week
> > > for you,six "LOL" in six days,
> > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > > > it is ok, i am 20.
> > > > I think it is really necessary have a good command of native language
> > if i
> > > > want to find a job there. but well, i can pretend have no idea about
> > dutch.
> > > > i will keep the book in my mind,hehe,undutchable.
> > > > i think the best way to know people's mind and culture is learning
> > their
> > > > language.
> > > > well, in my opinion, old continent with old cities have a lot of fun,
> > we
> > > > can image we had been through the history stories. I dont think the new
> > > > cities with skyscrapers attract me. I think the only reason I want to
> > live a
> > > > big new city is high salary.
> > > > I think young people should have some special dreams, like work in NGO,
> > > > travelling around the world and ect. and work for living is a middle
> > aged
> > > > man's thinking.
> > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Hi John Charles and all again,
> > > >> How old are you,John?If you don't mind telling us here...;)
> > > >> Mind you that Dutch people are rather wary of foreigners who
> > > >> understand their language too well!LOL
> > > >> How did I know it?
> > > >> Because we bought a book in a small town there and it's called "The
> > > >> Undutchable"!LOL
> > > >> It's a book worth reading since you're going to study there.
> > > >> It's all about Dutch people's mentality and behaviours...something you
> > > >> can say about their unspeakable secrets;) or some sort...LOL
> > > >> I only knew Eindhoven while passing through by train several
> > > >> times,that's all!
> > > >> English is very common in Western Europe as people there,especially in
> > > >> Holland,Belgium,Switzerland or Luxemburg are multilingual.
> > > >> I don't think my husband will have interest in going especially to see
> > > >> the music fountain in Hangzhou at night.
> > > >> We are alternative travellers which means quite different from
> > > >> ordinary tourists...LOL
> > > >> He'd been suffering from a terrible jet lag and without doubt,after he
> > > >> got used to it,he'll have to adjust to another jet lag back home!LOL
> > > >> It's interesting that you think Europe is suitable for young people.A
> > > >> lot of Taiwanese or American I know told me it's a too old continent
> > > >> where everything you see is just ancient architecture or museums!LOL
> > > >> Anyhow,Great weekend again to us all!
> > > >> Pln
> > > >> On Jun 5, 3:20 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > yes, indeed, about a decade ago, the Communist Party want to show
> > their
> > > >> > kindness to Taiwanese and wish investing, make a easy visiting plan
> > to
> > > >> > taiwanese, but taiwan authorities still think chinese government
> > will
> > > >> > send communists
> > > >> > to the island, so it is really bad for tourists like me. These
> > things
> > > >> should
> > > >> > be belong to the dammed politics,. lol
> > > >> > I will study in Eindhoven, it is a industrial city, where the center
> > of
> > > >> > philps is located, and a famous football club psv eindhoven.
> > > >> > I think europe is suit for young people, there are so many countries
> > and
> > > >> > places to visit and to settle. and young people are full of energy,
> > can
> > > >> > learn different languages easily. in this point, i think it is a
> > little
> > > >> bit
> > > >> > difficult for old people.
> > > >> > I will study computer there, basicly focus on software.
> > > >> > Hangzhou is really hot right now, you should tell him to watch the
> > music
> > > >> > fountain on the west lake in the dark, it is a new site, but
> > interesting
> > > >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > Oh,yes,John!
> > > >> > > I forgot about the difficulty of your getting a visa as an
> > independent
> > > >> > > tourist ...You're right!:(
> > > >> > > Mainland Chinese and Taiwanese governments aren't that friendly as
> > > >> > > people like you and me,are they?LOL
> > > >> > > Oh,well,never mind since you'll be studying in Holland this fall
> > soon!
> > > >> > > Where in Holland will you be studying?
> > > >> > > My husband and I had been in and out the countries so many times a
> > > >> > > decade ago because we had plans settling down there...
> > > >> > > The last time when we were in 2 cities there was 2.5 years ago
> > with
> > > >> > > our kids.
> > > >> > > I aslo encouraged Elham to choose Europe to study instead of USA.
> > > >> > > Every country in Europe has its own characteristics and charm,and
> > you
> > > >> > > are so close to every other country by train on the weekend!
> > > >> > > If it's fun,diversity or cultural events that you're looking
> > > >> > > for,Europe is the place!;)
> > > >> > > By the way,what is subject of your studies?
> > > >> > > One more thing,my husband is going to Hangzhou tomorrow just for a
> > > >> > > short while...then to Cixi,Ningbo and Shanghai before he returns
> > home
> > > >> > > to Poland...
> > > >> > > Oh,he's flying Air France,too!:( I am very worried about his
> > return
> > > >> > > flight because he will stop in DE Gaule Airport before he flies
> > back
> > > >> > > to Warsaw...:(
> > > >> > > MY HEART IS WITH ALL THE BRAZILIAN and FRENCH VICTIMS on AIR
> > FRANCE
> > > >> > > 447 and THEIR REMAINING LOVED ONES!!!:(
> > > >> > > Good luck and good day,everyone!
> > > >> > > Take real good care of yourselves!
> > > >> > > Pln
> > > >> > > On Jun 2, 2:41 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > > hehe, but it is not easy get the visa if i will choose travel
> > taiwan
> > > >> by
> > > >> > > > myself, cause i am come from continent. and in this fall, i will
> > > >> start my
> > > >> > > > study in holland, so i am afraid i won't get this chance. i
> > would
> > > >> like
> > > >> > > to
> > > >> > > > travel around europe, it is the different world, I am sure i
> > will
> > > >> look
> > > >> > > for
> > > >> > > > fun
> > > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > Wow,you're online,John!
> > > >> > > > > I'll add you as my contact on skype then.
> > > >> > > > > If you look harder or travel further outside
> > > >> Taipei,Taichung,Kaoshiung
> > > >> > > > > and other bigger cities,
> > > >> > > > > yes,there are more interesting,natural,cleaner,friendlier
> > places
> > > >> and
> > > >> > > > > people to meet!;)
> > > >> > > > > If by any chance,you'll be paying Taiwan a visit,do tell me
> > and
> > > >> I'll
> > > >> > > > > ask my acquaintances or friends to help you whatever they
> > can!;)
> > > >> > > > > Cheers,
> > > >> > > > > Pln
> > > >> > > > > On Jun 2, 1:52 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > hi pln471 and all
> > > >> > > > > > I find my skype account, the name is meslamdunk. So u r
> > > >> taiwanese, i
> > > >> > > > > think
> > > >> > > > > > taiwan has many beautiful palces. I wish some day i will
> > take a
> > > >> > > visit
> > > >> > > > > > there.
> > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:00 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over the world,
and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture, languages,
behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense, besides, my
english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it well, then i
can use them in the conversation.
PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget.
I see and I believe.
I do and I understand.
Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)."
I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english version, but in
chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As you can see it
below http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese version are
really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000 years ago,
the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and eygpt
words cannot be identify by us easily as well.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Josney and all,
> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
> board!
> I really do!;)
> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak up,please!
> LOL
> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
> Accomplished in some ways!
> Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast
> members!LOL
> Good night,
> Pln
> On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <josney.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have time to reply
> to
> > the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I don't like it.
> I
> > wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you all the
> best,
> > Josney
> > > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
> > > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how many 'LOL'
> > > in my previous post,aren't you?;)
> > > It's just coincidental,of course!
> > > But after reading your mischievious message dated Saturday,June 6th,I
> > > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
> > > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of Satan or
> > > something like that,isn't it?!:(
> > > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for Chinese,isn't
> > > it?
> > > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign again?!LOL
> > > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese or
> > > Taiwanese I've known.
> > > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or view
> > > towards life,work and Europe.;)
> > > Very true!In order to experience everything abroad first hand,one has
> > > to comprehend the local language as to interact with the locals as
> > > well!
> > > I've never travelled to any places with groups of tourists organised
> > > by travel agencies.
> > > What kind of adventures can one have if it's second-hand?!
> > > Doesn't anyone agree with me?;)
> > > By the way,Pablo,I haven't got time to watch the talk you mentioned
> > > yesterday yet...:(
> > > I'll do it hopefully tomorrow and let you know what I think!
> > > Beautiful Sunday to you three,Edward,Josney and the rest of
> > > unresponsive members!;)
> > > Pln
> > > On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > One,two,three,four,five,six.There are six "LOL" here.It must be a bad
> > > week
> > > > for you,six "LOL" in six days,
> > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, John Awesome <
> johnawesom...@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > > > > it is ok, i am 20.
> > > > > I think it is really necessary have a good command of native
> language
> > > if i
> > > > > want to find a job there. but well, i can pretend have no idea
> about
> > > dutch.
> > > > > i will keep the book in my mind,hehe,undutchable.
> > > > > i think the best way to know people's mind and culture is learning
> > > their
> > > > > language.
> > > > > well, in my opinion, old continent with old cities have a lot of
> fun,
> > > we
> > > > > can image we had been through the history stories. I dont think the
> new
> > > > > cities with skyscrapers attract me. I think the only reason I want
> to
> > > live a
> > > > > big new city is high salary.
> > > > > I think young people should have some special dreams, like work in
> NGO,
> > > > > travelling around the world and ect. and work for living is a
> middle
> > > aged
> > > > > man's thinking.
> > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> Hi John Charles and all again,
> > > > >> How old are you,John?If you don't mind telling us here...;)
> > > > >> Mind you that Dutch people are rather wary of foreigners who
> > > > >> understand their language too well!LOL
> > > > >> How did I know it?
> > > > >> Because we bought a book in a small town there and it's called
> "The
> > > > >> Undutchable"!LOL
> > > > >> It's a book worth reading since you're going to study there.
> > > > >> It's all about Dutch people's mentality and behaviours...something
> you
> > > > >> can say about their unspeakable secrets;) or some sort...LOL
> > > > >> I only knew Eindhoven while passing through by train several
> > > > >> times,that's all!
> > > > >> English is very common in Western Europe as people
> there,especially in
> > > > >> Holland,Belgium,Switzerland or Luxemburg are multilingual.
> > > > >> I don't think my husband will have interest in going especially to
> see
> > > > >> the music fountain in Hangzhou at night.
> > > > >> We are alternative travellers which means quite different from
> > > > >> ordinary tourists...LOL
> > > > >> He'd been suffering from a terrible jet lag and without
> doubt,after he
> > > > >> got used to it,he'll have to adjust to another jet lag back
> home!LOL
> > > > >> It's interesting that you think Europe is suitable for young
> people.A
> > > > >> lot of Taiwanese or American I know told me it's a too old
> continent
> > > > >> where everything you see is just ancient architecture or
> museums!LOL
> > > > >> Anyhow,Great weekend again to us all!
> > > > >> Pln
> > > > >> On Jun 5, 3:20 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> > yes, indeed, about a decade ago, the Communist Party want to
> show
> > > their
> > > > >> > kindness to Taiwanese and wish investing, make a easy visiting
> plan
> > > to
> > > > >> > taiwanese, but taiwan authorities still think chinese government
> > > will
> > > > >> > send communists
> > > > >> > to the island, so it is really bad for tourists like me. These
> > > things
> > > > >> should
> > > > >> > be belong to the dammed politics,. lol
> > > > >> > I will study in Eindhoven, it is a industrial city, where the
> center
> > > of
> > > > >> > philps is located, and a famous football club psv eindhoven.
> > > > >> > I think europe is suit for young people, there are so many
> countries
> > > and
> > > > >> > places to visit and to settle. and young people are full of
> energy,
> > > can
> > > > >> > learn different languages easily. in this point, i think it is a
> > > little
> > > > >> bit
> > > > >> > difficult for old people.
> > > > >> > I will study computer there, basicly focus on software.
> > > > >> > Hangzhou is really hot right now, you should tell him to watch
> the
> > > music
> > > > >> > fountain on the west lake in the dark, it is a new site, but
> > > interesting
> > > > >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > > Oh,yes,John!
> > > > >> > > I forgot about the difficulty of your getting a visa as an
> > > independent
> > > > >> > > tourist ...You're right!:(
> > > > >> > > Mainland Chinese and Taiwanese governments aren't that
> friendly as
> > > > >> > > people like you and me,are they?LOL
> > > > >> > > Oh,well,never mind since you'll be studying in Holland this
> fall
> > > soon!
> > > > >> > > Where in Holland will you be studying?
> > > > >> > > My husband and I had been in and out the countries so many
> times a
> > > > >> > > decade ago because we had plans settling down there...
> > > > >> > > The last time when we were in 2 cities there was 2.5 years ago
> > > with
> > > > >> > > our kids.
> > > > >> > > I aslo encouraged Elham to choose Europe to study instead of
> USA.
> > > > >> > > Every country in Europe has its own characteristics and
> charm,and
> > > you
> > > > >> > > are so close to every other country by train on the weekend!
> > > > >> > > If it's fun,diversity or cultural events that you're looking
> > > > >> > > for,Europe is the place!;)
> > > > >> > > By the way,what is subject of your studies?
> > > > >> > > One more thing,my husband is going to Hangzhou tomorrow just
> for a
> > > > >> > > short while...then to Cixi,Ningbo and Shanghai before he
> returns
> > > home
> > > > >> > > to Poland...
> > > > >> > > Oh,he's flying Air France,too!:( I am very worried about his
> > > return
> > > > >> > > flight because he will stop in DE Gaule Airport before he
> flies
> > > back
> > > > >> > > to Warsaw...:(
> > > > >> > > MY HEART IS WITH ALL THE BRAZILIAN and FRENCH VICTIMS on AIR
> > > FRANCE
> > > > >> > > 447 and THEIR REMAINING LOVED ONES!!!:(
> > > > >> > > Good luck and good day,everyone!
> > > > >> > > Take real good care of yourselves!
> > > > >> > > Pln
> > > > >> > > On Jun 2, 2:41 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > hehe, but it is not easy get the visa if i will choose
> travel
> > > taiwan
> > > > >> by
> > > > >> > > > myself, cause i am come from
Hi pln,
Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy
day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or
trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before.
You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little girl treated
badly by others weep here.^_^
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com>wrote:
> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over the world,
> and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture, languages,
> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense, besides, my
> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it well, then i
> can use them in the conversation.
> PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget.
> I see and I believe.
> I do and I understand.
> Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)."
> I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english version, but in
> chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As you can see it
> below http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi > but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese version are
> really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000 years ago,
> the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and eygpt
> words cannot be identify by us easily as well.
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Josney and all,
>> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
>> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
>> board!
>> I really do!;)
>> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak up,please!
>> LOL
>> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
>> Accomplished in some ways!
>> Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast
>> members!LOL
>> Good night,
>> Pln
>> On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <josney.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have time to
>> reply to
>> > the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I don't like
>> it. I
>> > wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you all the
>> best,
>> > Josney
>> > > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
>> > > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how many 'LOL'
>> > > in my previous post,aren't you?;)
>> > > It's just coincidental,of course!
>> > > But after reading your mischievious message dated Saturday,June 6th,I
>> > > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
>> > > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of Satan or
>> > > something like that,isn't it?!:(
>> > > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for Chinese,isn't
>> > > it?
>> > > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign again?!LOL
>> > > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese or
>> > > Taiwanese I've known.
>> > > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or view
>> > > towards life,work and Europe.;)
>> > > Very true!In order to experience everything abroad first hand,one has
>> > > to comprehend the local language as to interact with the locals as
>> > > well!
>> > > I've never travelled to any places with groups of tourists organised
>> > > by travel agencies.
>> > > What kind of adventures can one have if it's second-hand?!
>> > > Doesn't anyone agree with me?;)
>> > > By the way,Pablo,I haven't got time to watch the talk you mentioned
>> > > yesterday yet...:(
>> > > I'll do it hopefully tomorrow and let you know what I think!
>> > > Beautiful Sunday to you three,Edward,Josney and the rest of
>> > > unresponsive members!;)
>> > > Pln
>> > > On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > > One,two,three,four,five,six.There are six "LOL" here.It must be a
>> bad
>> > > week
>> > > > for you,six "LOL" in six days,
>> > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, John Awesome <
>> johnawesom...@gmail.com
>> > > >wrote:
>> > > > > it is ok, i am 20.
>> > > > > I think it is really necessary have a good command of native
>> language
>> > > if i
>> > > > > want to find a job there. but well, i can pretend have no idea
>> about
>> > > dutch.
>> > > > > i will keep the book in my mind,hehe,undutchable.
>> > > > > i think the best way to know people's mind and culture is learning
>> > > their
>> > > > > language.
>> > > > > well, in my opinion, old continent with old cities have a lot of
>> fun,
>> > > we
>> > > > > can image we had been through the history stories. I dont think
>> the new
>> > > > > cities with skyscrapers attract me. I think the only reason I want
>> to
>> > > live a
>> > > > > big new city is high salary.
>> > > > > I think young people should have some special dreams, like work in
>> NGO,
>> > > > > travelling around the world and ect. and work for living is a
>> middle
>> > > aged
>> > > > > man's thinking.
>> > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> Hi John Charles and all again,
>> > > > >> How old are you,John?If you don't mind telling us here...;)
>> > > > >> Mind you that Dutch people are rather wary of foreigners who
>> > > > >> understand their language too well!LOL
>> > > > >> How did I know it?
>> > > > >> Because we bought a book in a small town there and it's called
>> "The
>> > > > >> Undutchable"!LOL
>> > > > >> It's a book worth reading since you're going to study there.
>> > > > >> It's all about Dutch people's mentality and
>> behaviours...something you
>> > > > >> can say about their unspeakable secrets;) or some sort...LOL
>> > > > >> I only knew Eindhoven while passing through by train several
>> > > > >> times,that's all!
>> > > > >> English is very common in Western Europe as people
>> there,especially in
>> > > > >> Holland,Belgium,Switzerland or Luxemburg are multilingual.
>> > > > >> I don't think my husband will have interest in going especially
>> to see
>> > > > >> the music fountain in Hangzhou at night.
>> > > > >> We are alternative travellers which means quite different from
>> > > > >> ordinary tourists...LOL
>> > > > >> He'd been suffering from a terrible jet lag and without
>> doubt,after he
>> > > > >> got used to it,he'll have to adjust to another jet lag back
>> home!LOL
>> > > > >> It's interesting that you think Europe is suitable for young
>> people.A
>> > > > >> lot of Taiwanese or American I know told me it's a too old
>> continent
>> > > > >> where everything you see is just ancient architecture or
>> museums!LOL
>> > > > >> Anyhow,Great weekend again to us all!
>> > > > >> Pln
>> > > > >> On Jun 5, 3:20 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> > yes, indeed, about a decade ago, the Communist Party want to
>> show
>> > > their
>> > > > >> > kindness to Taiwanese and wish investing, make a easy visiting
>> plan
>> > > to
>> > > > >> > taiwanese, but taiwan authorities still think chinese
>> government
>> > > will
>> > > > >> > send communists
>> > > > >> > to the island, so it is really bad for tourists like me. These
>> > > things
>> > > > >> should
>> > > > >> > be belong to the dammed politics,. lol
>> > > > >> > I will study in Eindhoven, it is a industrial city, where the
>> center
>> > > of
>> > > > >> > philps is located, and a famous football club psv eindhoven.
>> > > > >> > I think europe is suit for young people, there are so many
>> countries
>> > > and
>> > > > >> > places to visit and to settle. and young people are full of
>> energy,
>> > > can
>> > > > >> > learn different languages easily. in this point, i think it is
>> a
>> > > little
>> > > > >> bit
>> > > > >> > difficult for old people.
>> > > > >> > I will study computer there, basicly focus on software.
>> > > > >> > Hangzhou is really hot right now, you should tell him to watch
>> the
>> > > music
>> > > > >> > fountain on the west lake in the dark, it is a new site, but
>> > > interesting
>> > > > >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >> > > Oh,yes,John!
>> > > > >> > > I forgot about the difficulty of your getting a visa as an
>> > > independent
>> > > > >> > > tourist ...You're right!:(
>> > > > >> > > Mainland Chinese and Taiwanese governments aren't that
>> friendly as
>> > > > >> > > people like you and me,are they?LOL
>> > > > >> > > Oh,well,never mind since you'll be studying in Holland this
>> fall
>> > > soon!
>> > > > >> > > Where in Holland will you be studying?
>> > > > >> > > My husband and I had been in and out the countries so many
>> times a
>> > > > >> > > decade ago because we had plans settling down there...
>> > > > >> > > The last time when we were in 2 cities there was 2.5 years
>> ago
>> > > with
>> > > > >> > > our kids.
>> > > > >> > > I aslo encouraged Elham to choose Europe to study instead of
>> USA.
>> > > > >> > > Every country in Europe has its own characteristics and
>> charm,and
>> > > you
>> > > > >> > > are so close to every other country by train on the weekend!
>> > > > >> > > If it's fun,diversity or cultural events that you're looking
>> > > > >> > > for,Europe is the place!;)
>> > > > >> > > By the way,what is subject of your studies?
>> > > > >> > > One more thing,my husband is going to Hangzhou tomorrow just
>> for a
>> > > > >> > > short while...then to Cixi,Ningbo and Shanghai before he
>> returns
>> > > home
>> > > > >> > > to Poland...
>> > > > >> > > Oh,he's
I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing in Europe.
Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is the first of
many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start doing my
itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should visit? As soon
I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe.
I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a long trip,
just one week!
Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!! I prefer
traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since I prepared
my route in advance.
In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where many
important facts happened there and because of this, there are many
historical places to go.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi pln,
> Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
> It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy
> day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or
> trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before.
> You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little girl treated
> badly by others weep here.^_^
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over the world,
>> and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture, languages,
>> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense, besides, my
>> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it well, then i
>> can use them in the conversation.
>> PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget.
>> I see and I believe.
>> I do and I understand.
>> Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)."
>> I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english version, but
>> in chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As you can see
>> it below http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi >> but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese version are
>> really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000 years ago,
>> the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and eygpt
>> words cannot be identify by us easily as well.
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Josney and all,
>>> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
>>> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
>>> board!
>>> I really do!;)
>>> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak up,please!
>>> LOL
>>> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
>>> Accomplished in some ways!
>>> Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast
>>> members!LOL
>>> Good night,
>>> Pln
>>> On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <josney.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have time to
>>> reply to
>>> > the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I don't like
>>> it. I
>>> > wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you all the
>>> best,
>>> > Josney
>>> > > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
>>> > > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how many 'LOL'
>>> > > in my previous post,aren't you?;)
>>> > > It's just coincidental,of course!
>>> > > But after reading your mischievious message dated Saturday,June 6th,I
>>> > > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
>>> > > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of Satan or
>>> > > something like that,isn't it?!:(
>>> > > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for Chinese,isn't
>>> > > it?
>>> > > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign again?!LOL
>>> > > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese or
>>> > > Taiwanese I've known.
>>> > > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or view
>>> > > towards life,work and Europe.;)
>>> > > Very true!In order to experience everything abroad first hand,one has
>>> > > to comprehend the local language as to interact with the locals as
>>> > > well!
>>> > > I've never travelled to any places with groups of tourists organised
>>> > > by travel agencies.
>>> > > What kind of adventures can one have if it's second-hand?!
>>> > > Doesn't anyone agree with me?;)
>>> > > By the way,Pablo,I haven't got time to watch the talk you mentioned
>>> > > yesterday yet...:(
>>> > > I'll do it hopefully tomorrow and let you know what I think!
>>> > > Beautiful Sunday to you three,Edward,Josney and the rest of
>>> > > unresponsive members!;)
>>> > > Pln
>>> > > On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > Hi,
>>> > > > One,two,three,four,five,six.There are six "LOL" here.It must be a
>>> bad
>>> > > week
>>> > > > for you,six "LOL" in six days,
>>> > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, John Awesome <
>>> johnawesom...@gmail.com
>>> > > >wrote:
>>> > > > > it is ok, i am 20.
>>> > > > > I think it is really necessary have a good command of native
>>> language
>>> > > if i
>>> > > > > want to find a job there. but well, i can pretend have no idea
>>> about
>>> > > dutch.
>>> > > > > i will keep the book in my mind,hehe,undutchable.
>>> > > > > i think the best way to know people's mind and culture is
>>> learning
>>> > > their
>>> > > > > language.
>>> > > > > well, in my opinion, old continent with old cities have a lot of
>>> fun,
>>> > > we
>>> > > > > can image we had been through the history stories. I dont think
>>> the new
>>> > > > > cities with skyscrapers attract me. I think the only reason I
>>> want to
>>> > > live a
>>> > > > > big new city is high salary.
>>> > > > > I think young people should have some special dreams, like work
>>> in NGO,
>>> > > > > travelling around the world and ect. and work for living is a
>>> middle
>>> > > aged
>>> > > > > man's thinking.
>>> > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > >> Hi John Charles and all again,
>>> > > > >> How old are you,John?If you don't mind telling us here...;)
>>> > > > >> Mind you that Dutch people are rather wary of foreigners who
>>> > > > >> understand their language too well!LOL
>>> > > > >> How did I know it?
>>> > > > >> Because we bought a book in a small town there and it's called
>>> "The
>>> > > > >> Undutchable"!LOL
>>> > > > >> It's a book worth reading since you're going to study there.
>>> > > > >> It's all about Dutch people's mentality and
>>> behaviours...something you
>>> > > > >> can say about their unspeakable secrets;) or some sort...LOL
>>> > > > >> I only knew Eindhoven while passing through by train several
>>> > > > >> times,that's all!
>>> > > > >> English is very common in Western Europe as people
>>> there,especially in
>>> > > > >> Holland,Belgium,Switzerland or Luxemburg are multilingual.
>>> > > > >> I don't think my husband will have interest in going especially
>>> to see
>>> > > > >> the music fountain in Hangzhou at night.
>>> > > > >> We are alternative travellers which means quite different from
>>> > > > >> ordinary tourists...LOL
>>> > > > >> He'd been suffering from a terrible jet lag and without
>>> doubt,after he
>>> > > > >> got used to it,he'll have to adjust to another jet lag back
>>> home!LOL
>>> > > > >> It's interesting that you think Europe is suitable for young
>>> people.A
>>> > > > >> lot of Taiwanese or American I know told me it's a too old
>>> continent
>>> > > > >> where everything you see is just ancient architecture or
>>> museums!LOL
>>> > > > >> Anyhow,Great weekend again to us all!
>>> > > > >> Pln
>>> > > > >> On Jun 5, 3:20 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >> > yes, indeed, about a decade ago, the Communist Party want to
>>> show
>>> > > their
>>> > > > >> > kindness to Taiwanese and wish investing, make a easy visiting
>>> plan
>>> > > to
>>> > > > >> > taiwanese, but taiwan authorities still think chinese
>>> government
>>> > > will
>>> > > > >> > send communists
>>> > > > >> > to the island, so it is really bad for tourists like me. These
>>> > > things
>>> > > > >> should
>>> > > > >> > be belong to the dammed politics,. lol
>>> > > > >> > I will study in Eindhoven, it is a industrial city, where the
>>> center
>>> > > of
>>> > > > >> > philps is located, and a famous football club psv eindhoven.
>>> > > > >> > I think europe is suit for young people, there are so many
>>> countries
>>> > > and
>>> > > > >> > places to visit and to settle. and young people are full of
>>> energy,
>>> > > can
>>> > > > >> > learn different languages easily. in this point, i think it is
>>> a
>>> > > little
>>> > > > >> bit
>>> > > > >> > difficult for old people.
>>> > > > >> > I will study computer there, basicly focus on software.
>>> > > > >> > Hangzhou is really hot right now, you should tell him to watch
>>> the
>>> > > music
>>> > > > >> > fountain on the west lake in the dark, it is a new site, but
>>> > > interesting
>>> > > > >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >> > > Oh,yes,John!
>>> > > > >> > > I forgot about the difficulty of your getting a visa as an
>>> > > independent
>>> > > > >> > > tourist ...You're right!:(
>>> > > > >> > > Mainland Chinese and
It took me some time to finally find this message I was about to reply
to before our move to the new flat!
One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy schedule.I've
never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly recommend!;)
Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the cherry
one!
Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
Too short time left for me to write more...
I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again!
Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us!
Pln
On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing in Europe.
> Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
> I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is the first of
> many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start doing my
> itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should visit? As soon
> I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe.
> I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a long trip,
> just one week!
> Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!! I prefer
> traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since I prepared
> my route in advance.
> In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where many
> important facts happened there and because of this, there are many
> historical places to go.
> Nice day for you all
> Oshiro
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi pln,
> > Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
> > It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy
> > day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or
> > trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before.
> > You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little girl treated
> > badly by others weep here.^_^
> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over the world,
> >> and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture, languages,
> >> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense, besides, my
> >> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it well, then i
> >> can use them in the conversation.
> >> PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget.
> >> I see and I believe.
> >> I do and I understand.
> >> Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)."
> >> I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english version, but
> >> in chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As you can see
> >> it belowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi > >> but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese version are
> >> really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000 years ago,
> >> the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and eygpt
> >> words cannot be identify by us easily as well.
> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi Josney and all,
> >>> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
> >>> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
> >>> board!
> >>> I really do!;)
> >>> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak up,please!
> >>> LOL
> >>> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
> >>> Accomplished in some ways!
> >>> Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast
> >>> members!LOL
> >>> Good night,
> >>> Pln
> >>> On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <josney.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have time to
> >>> reply to
> >>> > the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I don't like
> >>> it. I
> >>> > wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you all the
> >>> best,
> >>> > Josney
> >>> > > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
> >>> > > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how many 'LOL'
> >>> > > in my previous post,aren't you?;)
> >>> > > It's just coincidental,of course!
> >>> > > But after reading your mischievious message dated Saturday,June 6th,I
> >>> > > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
> >>> > > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of Satan or
> >>> > > something like that,isn't it?!:(
> >>> > > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for Chinese,isn't
> >>> > > it?
> >>> > > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign again?!LOL
> >>> > > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese or
> >>> > > Taiwanese I've known.
> >>> > > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or view
> >>> > > towards life,work and Europe.;)
> >>> > > Very true!In order to experience everything abroad first hand,one has
> >>> > > to comprehend the local language as to interact with the locals as
> >>> > > well!
> >>> > > I've never travelled to any places with groups of tourists organised
> >>> > > by travel agencies.
> >>> > > What kind of adventures can one have if it's second-hand?!
> >>> > > Doesn't anyone agree with me?;)
> >>> > > By the way,Pablo,I haven't got time to watch the talk you mentioned
> >>> > > yesterday yet...:(
> >>> > > I'll do it hopefully tomorrow and let you know what I think!
> >>> > > Beautiful Sunday to you three,Edward,Josney and the rest of
> >>> > > unresponsive members!;)
> >>> > > Pln
> >>> > > On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > > > Hi,
> >>> > > > One,two,three,four,five,six.There are six "LOL" here.It must be a
> >>> bad
> >>> > > week
> >>> > > > for you,six "LOL" in six days,
> >>> > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, John Awesome <
> >>> johnawesom...@gmail.com
> >>> > > >wrote:
> >>> > > > > it is ok, i am 20.
> >>> > > > > I think it is really necessary have a good command of native
> >>> language
> >>> > > if i
> >>> > > > > want to find a job there. but well, i can pretend have no idea
> >>> about
> >>> > > dutch.
> >>> > > > > i will keep the book in my mind,hehe,undutchable.
> >>> > > > > i think the best way to know people's mind and culture is
> >>> learning
> >>> > > their
> >>> > > > > language.
> >>> > > > > well, in my opinion, old continent with old cities have a lot of
> >>> fun,
> >>> > > we
> >>> > > > > can image we had been through the history stories. I dont think
> >>> the new
> >>> > > > > cities with skyscrapers attract me. I think the only reason I
> >>> want to
> >>> > > live a
> >>> > > > > big new city is high salary.
> >>> > > > > I think young people should have some special dreams, like work
> >>> in NGO,
> >>> > > > > travelling around the world and ect. and work for living is a
> >>> middle
> >>> > > aged
> >>> > > > > man's thinking.
> >>> > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > > > >> Hi John Charles and all again,
> >>> > > > >> How old are you,John?If you don't mind telling us here...;)
> >>> > > > >> Mind you that Dutch people are rather wary of foreigners who
> >>> > > > >> understand their language too well!LOL
> >>> > > > >> How did I know it?
> >>> > > > >> Because we bought a book in a small town there and it's called
> >>> "The
> >>> > > > >> Undutchable"!LOL
> >>> > > > >> It's a book worth reading since you're going to study there.
> >>> > > > >> It's all about Dutch people's mentality and
> >>> behaviours...something you
> >>> > > > >> can say about their unspeakable secrets;) or some sort...LOL
> >>> > > > >> I only knew Eindhoven while passing through by train several
> >>> > > > >> times,that's all!
> >>> > > > >> English is very common in Western Europe as people
> >>> there,especially in
> >>> > > > >> Holland,Belgium,Switzerland or Luxemburg are multilingual.
> >>> > > > >> I don't think my husband will have interest in going especially
> >>> to see
> >>> > > > >> the music fountain in Hangzhou at night.
> >>> > > > >> We are alternative travellers which means quite different from
> >>> > > > >> ordinary tourists...LOL
> >>> > > > >> He'd been suffering from a terrible jet lag and without
> >>> doubt,after he
> >>> > > > >> got used to it,he'll have to adjust to another jet lag back
> >>> home!LOL
> >>> > > > >> It's interesting that you think Europe is suitable for young
> >>> people.A
> >>> > > > >> lot of Taiwanese or American I know told me it's a too old
> >>> continent
> >>> > > > >> where everything you see is just ancient architecture or
> >>> museums!LOL
> >>> > > > >> Anyhow,Great weekend again to us all!
> >>> > > > >> Pln
> >>> > > > >> On Jun 5, 3:20 pm, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >> > yes, indeed, about a decade ago, the Communist Party want to
> >>> show
> >>> > > their
> >>> > > > >> > kindness to Taiwanese and wish investing, make a easy visiting
> >>> plan
> >>> > > to
> >>> > > > >> > taiwanese, but taiwan authorities still think chinese
> >>> government
> >>> > > will
> >>> > > > >> > send communists
> >>> > > > >> > to the island, so it is really bad for tourists like me. These
> >>> > > things
> >>> > > > >> should
> >>> > > > >> > be belong to the dammed politics,. lol
> >>> > > > >> > I will study in Eindhoven, it is a industrial city, where the
> >>> center
> >>> > > of
> >>> > > > >> > philps is located, and a famous football club psv eindhoven.
> >>> > > > >> > I think europe is suit for young people, there are so
Nice to see you here again!!! :)
I hope you are having a good time in your new flat!
Yeah, I agree that just one week to visit 2 cities is going to be quite
busy, but at that time, I won't be able to take more days off my work.
I'm really excited about going there, and I'm happy to know that you enjoyed
Brussels. I'm looking forward to try many kinds of beers, I'll really enjoy
that!!! LOL
I've been reading some information about there and they say much about
chocolate, waffle and beer!! They must have such a good gastronomy!! My
favorite kind of beer is Ale, a red beer. You got me curious about the
cherry one.
Thanks for the valuable tips, Pln!!! They were really good!
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Oshiro and all,
> It took me some time to finally find this message I was about to reply
> to before our move to the new flat!
> One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy schedule.I've
> never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly recommend!;)
> Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the cherry
> one!
> Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
> recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
> Too short time left for me to write more...
> I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again!
> Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us!
> Pln
> On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Pln, Charles, John, Josney and all!!
> > I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing in
> Europe.
> > Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
> > I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is the first
> of
> > many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start doing my
> > itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should visit? As
> soon
> > I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe.
> > I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a long
> trip,
> > just one week!
> > Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!! I
> prefer
> > traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since I
> prepared
> > my route in advance.
> > In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where many
> > important facts happened there and because of this, there are many
> > historical places to go.
> > Nice day for you all
> > Oshiro
> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi pln,
> > > Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
> > > It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy
> > > day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or
> > > trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before.
> > > You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little girl
> treated
> > > badly by others weep here.^_^
> > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> > >> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over the
> world,
> > >> and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture, languages,
> > >> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense,
> besides, my
> > >> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it well,
> then i
> > >> can use them in the conversation.
> > >> PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget.
> > >> I see and I believe.
> > >> I do and I understand.
> > >> Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)."
> > >> I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english version,
> but
> > >> in chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As you
> can see
> > >> it belowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi > > >> but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese version
> are
> > >> really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000 years
> ago,
> > >> the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and
> eygpt
> > >> words cannot be identify by us easily as well.
> > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> Hi Josney and all,
> > >>> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
> > >>> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
> > >>> board!
> > >>> I really do!;)
> > >>> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak up,please!
> > >>> LOL
> > >>> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
> > >>> Accomplished in some ways!
> > >>> Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast
> > >>> members!LOL
> > >>> Good night,
> > >>> Pln
> > >>> On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <josney.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have time to
> > >>> reply to
> > >>> > the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I don't
> like
> > >>> it. I
> > >>> > wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you all
> the
> > >>> best,
> > >>> > Josney
> > >>> > > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
> > >>> > > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how many
> 'LOL'
> > >>> > > in my previous post,aren't you?;)
> > >>> > > It's just coincidental,of course!
> > >>> > > But after reading your mischievious message dated Saturday,June
> 6th,I
> > >>> > > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
> > >>> > > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of Satan or
> > >>> > > something like that,isn't it?!:(
> > >>> > > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for
> Chinese,isn't
> > >>> > > it?
> > >>> > > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign again?!LOL
> > >>> > > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese or
> > >>> > > Taiwanese I've known.
> > >>> > > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or view
> > >>> > > towards life,work and Europe.;)
> > >>> > > Very true!In order to experience everything abroad first hand,one
> has
> > >>> > > to comprehend the local language as to interact with the locals
> as
> > >>> > > well!
> > >>> > > I've never travelled to any places with groups of tourists
> organised
> > >>> > > by travel agencies.
> > >>> > > What kind of adventures can one have if it's second-hand?!
> > >>> > > Doesn't anyone agree with me?;)
> > >>> > > By the way,Pablo,I haven't got time to watch the talk you
> mentioned
> > >>> > > yesterday yet...:(
> > >>> > > I'll do it hopefully tomorrow and let you know what I think!
> > >>> > > Beautiful Sunday to you three,Edward,Josney and the rest of
> > >>> > > unresponsive members!;)
> > >>> > > Pln
> > >>> > > On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > > > Hi,
> > >>> > > > One,two,three,four,five,six.There are six "LOL" here.It must be
> a
> > >>> bad
> > >>> > > week
> > >>> > > > for you,six "LOL" in six days,
> > >>> > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, John Awesome <
> > >>> johnawesom...@gmail.com
> > >>> > > >wrote:
> > >>> > > > > it is ok, i am 20.
> > >>> > > > > I think it is really necessary have a good command of native
> > >>> language
> > >>> > > if i
> > >>> > > > > want to find a job there. but well, i can pretend have no
> idea
> > >>> about
> > >>> > > dutch.
> > >>> > > > > i will keep the book in my mind,hehe,undutchable.
> > >>> > > > > i think the best way to know people's mind and culture is
> > >>> learning
> > >>> > > their
> > >>> > > > > language.
> > >>> > > > > well, in my opinion, old continent with old cities have a lot
> of
> > >>> fun,
> > >>> > > we
> > >>> > > > > can image we had been through the history stories. I dont
> think
> > >>> the new
> > >>> > > > > cities with skyscrapers attract me. I think the only reason I
> > >>> want to
> > >>> > > live a
> > >>> > > > > big new city is high salary.
> > >>> > > > > I think young people should have some special dreams, like
> work
> > >>> in NGO,
> > >>> > > > > travelling around the world and ect. and work for living is a
> > >>> middle
> > >>> > > aged
> > >>> > > > > man's thinking.
> > >>> > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> Hi John Charles and all again,
> > >>> > > > >> How old are you,John?If you don't mind telling us here...;)
> > >>> > > > >> Mind you that Dutch people are rather wary of foreigners who
> > >>> > > > >> understand their language too well!LOL
> > >>> > > > >> How did I know it?
> > >>> > > > >> Because we bought a book in a small town there and it's
> called
> > >>> "The
> > >>> > > > >> Undutchable"!LOL
> > >>> > > > >> It's a book worth reading since you're going to study there.
> > >>> > > > >> It's all about Dutch people's mentality and
> > >>> behaviours...something you
> > >>> > > > >> can say about their unspeakable secrets;) or some sort...LOL
> > >>> > > > >> I only knew Eindhoven while passing through by train several
> > >>> > > > >> times,that's all!
> > >>> > > > >> English is very common in Western Europe as people
> > >>> there,especially in
> > >>> > > > >> Holland,Belgium,Switzerland or Luxemburg are multilingual.
> > >>> > > > >> I don't think my husband will have interest in going
> especially
> > >>> to see
> > >>> > > > >> the music fountain in Hangzhou at night.
> > >>> > > > >> We are alternative travellers which means quite different
> from
> > >>> > > > >> ordinary tourists...LOL
> > >>> > > > >> He'd been suffering from a terrible jet lag and without
> > >>> doubt,after he
Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's to be
put away on the shelves:
'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is an
authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of Pop who
just passed away)
Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were named
George,it would sound even betterLOL):
'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
Surely is it a wine?
The explanation is that these are beers,produced from grain,with fruit
added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on lambic
beers,and usually made with cherries or raspberries.
Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other fruits
and more countries have made an entrance.
The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit cherry
kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and delicacy,and
are dry.
They are the beer world's elegant response to pink champagne,and make
a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome guests at
a barbecue or summer party...'
Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs there.There are
over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them during
breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out Belgian ale there.
Belgians call ales 'speciales belges' or just 'belges',particularly in
the French-speaking regions of Belgium.
According to M.J.,try 'Vieux Temps'(it means Old Time),Horse
Ale,Lamot,Op-Ale and Palm.
On second thought,you should take your girlfriend to Paris because it
seems to be every woman's dream destination,and it's a bigger contrast
to your culture or Barcelona,isn't it?
When are your coming to Europe?;)
Nice day,everyone!
Pln
On Jun 29, 5:29 am, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice to see you here again!!! :)
> I hope you are having a good time in your new flat!
> Yeah, I agree that just one week to visit 2 cities is going to be quite
> busy, but at that time, I won't be able to take more days off my work.
> I'm really excited about going there, and I'm happy to know that you enjoyed
> Brussels. I'm looking forward to try many kinds of beers, I'll really enjoy
> that!!! LOL
> I've been reading some information about there and they say much about
> chocolate, waffle and beer!! They must have such a good gastronomy!! My
> favorite kind of beer is Ale, a red beer. You got me curious about the
> cherry one.
> Thanks for the valuable tips, Pln!!! They were really good!
> Oshiro
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > It took me some time to finally find this message I was about to reply
> > to before our move to the new flat!
> > One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy schedule.I've
> > never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly recommend!;)
> > Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the cherry
> > one!
> > Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
> > recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
> > Too short time left for me to write more...
> > I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again!
> > Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us!
> > Pln
> > On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Pln, Charles, John, Josney and all!!
> > > I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing in
> > Europe.
> > > Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
> > > I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is the first
> > of
> > > many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start doing my
> > > itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should visit? As
> > soon
> > > I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe.
> > > I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a long
> > trip,
> > > just one week!
> > > Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!! I
> > prefer
> > > traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since I
> > prepared
> > > my route in advance.
> > > In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where many
> > > important facts happened there and because of this, there are many
> > > historical places to go.
> > > Nice day for you all
> > > Oshiro
> > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi pln,
> > > > Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
> > > > It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy
> > > > day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or
> > > > trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before.
> > > > You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little girl
> > treated
> > > > badly by others weep here.^_^
> > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <johnawesom...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > > >> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over the
> > world,
> > > >> and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture, languages,
> > > >> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense,
> > besides, my
> > > >> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it well,
> > then i
> > > >> can use them in the conversation.
> > > >> PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget.
> > > >> I see and I believe.
> > > >> I do and I understand.
> > > >> Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)."
> > > >> I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english version,
> > but
> > > >> in chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As you
> > can see
> > > >> it belowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi > > > >> but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese version
> > are
> > > >> really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000 years
> > ago,
> > > >> the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and
> > eygpt
> > > >> words cannot be identify by us easily as well.
> > > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> Hi Josney and all,
> > > >>> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
> > > >>> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
> > > >>> board!
> > > >>> I really do!;)
> > > >>> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak up,please!
> > > >>> LOL
> > > >>> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
> > > >>> Accomplished in some ways!
> > > >>> Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast
> > > >>> members!LOL
> > > >>> Good night,
> > > >>> Pln
> > > >>> On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <josney.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> > I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have time to
> > > >>> reply to
> > > >>> > the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I don't
> > like
> > > >>> it. I
> > > >>> > wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you all
> > the
> > > >>> best,
> > > >>> > Josney
> > > >>> > > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
> > > >>> > > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how many
> > 'LOL'
> > > >>> > > in my previous post,aren't you?;)
> > > >>> > > It's just coincidental,of course!
> > > >>> > > But after reading your mischievious message dated Saturday,June
> > 6th,I
> > > >>> > > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
> > > >>> > > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of Satan or
> > > >>> > > something like that,isn't it?!:(
> > > >>> > > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for
> > Chinese,isn't
> > > >>> > > it?
> > > >>> > > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign again?!LOL
> > > >>> > > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese or
> > > >>> > > Taiwanese I've known.
> > > >>> > > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or view
> > > >>> > > towards life,work and Europe.;)
> > > >>> > > Very true!In order to experience everything abroad first hand,one
> > has
> > > >>> > > to comprehend the local language as to interact with the locals
> > as
> > > >>> > > well!
> > > >>> > > I've never travelled to any places with groups of tourists
> > organised
> > > >>> > > by travel agencies.
> > > >>> > > What kind of adventures can one have if it's second-hand?!
> > > >>> > > Doesn't anyone agree with me?;)
> > > >>> > > By the way,Pablo,I haven't got time to watch the talk you
> > mentioned
> > > >>> > > yesterday yet...:(
> > > >>> > > I'll do it hopefully tomorrow and let you know what I think!
> > > >>> > > Beautiful Sunday to you three,Edward,Josney and the rest of
> > > >>> > > unresponsive members!;)
> > > >>> > > Pln
> > > >>> > > On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> > > > Hi,
> > > >>> > > > One,two,three,four,five,six.There are six "LOL" here.It must be
> > a
> > > >>> bad
> > > >>> > > week
> > > >>> > > > for you,six "LOL" in six days,
> > > >>> > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, John Awesome <
> > > >>> johnawesom...@gmail.com
> > > >>> > > >wrote:
> > > >>> > > > > it is ok, i am 20.
> > > >>> > > > > I think it is really necessary have a good command of native
> > > >>> language
> > > >>> > > if i
> > > >>> > > > > want to find a job there. but well, i can pretend have no
> > idea
> > > >>> about
> > > >>> > > dutch.
> > > >>> > > > > i will keep the book in my mind,hehe,undutchable.
Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this Michael
Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was another famous
king :)
These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am I right? I
surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't mean I'm going to
be drunk, maybe a little high :)
Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers, the most commom
one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in some countries
in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels, and we going
to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our itinerary and our
great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this season, provided
that we are not used to it.
You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of women, very
different from our culture.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Oshiro and all,
> Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's to be
> put away on the shelves:
> 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is an
> authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of Pop who
> just passed away)
> Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were named
> George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
> Surely is it a wine?
> The explanation is that these are beers,produced from grain,with fruit
> added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
> They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on lambic
> beers,and usually made with cherries or raspberries.
> Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other fruits
> and more countries have made an entrance.
> The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit cherry
> kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and delicacy,and
> are dry.
> They are the beer world's elegant response to pink champagne,and make
> a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome guests at
> a barbecue or summer party...'
> Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs there.There are
> over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
> I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them during
> breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
> As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out Belgian ale there.
> Belgians call ales 'speciales belges' or just 'belges',particularly in
> the French-speaking regions of Belgium.
> According to M.J.,try 'Vieux Temps'(it means Old Time),Horse
> Ale,Lamot,Op-Ale and Palm.
> On second thought,you should take your girlfriend to Paris because it
> seems to be every woman's dream destination,and it's a bigger contrast
> to your culture or Barcelona,isn't it?
> When are your coming to Europe?;)
> Nice day,everyone!
> Pln
> On Jun 29, 5:29 am, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Pln and all
> > Nice to see you here again!!! :)
> > I hope you are having a good time in your new flat!
> > Yeah, I agree that just one week to visit 2 cities is going to be quite
> > busy, but at that time, I won't be able to take more days off my work.
> > I'm really excited about going there, and I'm happy to know that you
> enjoyed
> > Brussels. I'm looking forward to try many kinds of beers, I'll really
> enjoy
> > that!!! LOL
> > I've been reading some information about there and they say much about
> > chocolate, waffle and beer!! They must have such a good gastronomy!! My
> > favorite kind of beer is Ale, a red beer. You got me curious about the
> > cherry one.
> > Thanks for the valuable tips, Pln!!! They were really good!
> > Oshiro
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > It took me some time to finally find this message I was about to reply
> > > to before our move to the new flat!
> > > One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy schedule.I've
> > > never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly recommend!;)
> > > Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the cherry
> > > one!
> > > Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
> > > recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
> > > Too short time left for me to write more...
> > > I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again!
> > > Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us!
> > > Pln
> > > On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Pln, Charles, John, Josney and all!!
> > > > I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing in
> > > Europe.
> > > > Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
> > > > I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is the
> first
> > > of
> > > > many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start
> doing my
> > > > itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should visit?
> As
> > > soon
> > > > I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe.
> > > > I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a
> long
> > > trip,
> > > > just one week!
> > > > Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!! I
> > > prefer
> > > > traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since I
> > > prepared
> > > > my route in advance.
> > > > In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where many
> > > > important facts happened there and because of this, there are many
> > > > historical places to go.
> > > > Nice day for you all
> > > > Oshiro
> > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi pln,
> > > > > Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
> > > > > It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy
> > > > > day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or
> > > > > trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before.
> > > > > You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little girl
> > > treated
> > > > > badly by others weep here.^_^
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <
> johnawesom...@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > > > >> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over
> the
> > > world,
> > > > >> and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture,
> languages,
> > > > >> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense,
> > > besides, my
> > > > >> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it
> well,
> > > then i
> > > > >> can use them in the conversation.
> > > > >> PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget.
> > > > >> I see and I believe.
> > > > >> I do and I understand.
> > > > >> Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)."
> > > > >> I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english
> version,
> > > but
> > > > >> in chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As
> you
> > > can see
> > > > >> it belowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi > > > > >> but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese
> version
> > > are
> > > > >> really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000
> years
> > > ago,
> > > > >> the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and
> > > eygpt
> > > > >> words cannot be identify by us easily as well.
> > > > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> Hi Josney and all,
> > > > >>> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
> > > > >>> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
> > > > >>> board!
> > > > >>> I really do!;)
> > > > >>> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak
> up,please!
> > > > >>> LOL
> > > > >>> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
> > > > >>> Accomplished in some ways!
> > > > >>> Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast
> > > > >>> members!LOL
> > > > >>> Good night,
> > > > >>> Pln
> > > > >>> On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <josney.fa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >>> > I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have
> time to
> > > > >>> reply to
> > > > >>> > the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I
> don't
> > > like
> > > > >>> it. I
> > > > >>> > wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you
> all
> > > the
> > > > >>> best,
> > > > >>> > Josney
> > > > >>> > > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
> > > > >>> > > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how
> many
> > > 'LOL'
> > > > >>> > > in my previous post,aren't you?;)
> > > > >>> > > It's just coincidental,of course!
> > > > >>> > > But after reading your mischievious message dated
> Saturday,June
> > > 6th,I
> > > > >>> > > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
> > > > >>> > > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of
> Satan or
> > > > >>> > > something like that,isn't it?!:(
> > > > >>> > > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for
> > > Chinese,isn't
> > > > >>> > > it?
> > > > >>> > > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign
> again?!LOL
> > > > >>> > > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese
> or
> > > > >>> > > Taiwanese I've known.
> > > > >>> > > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or
> view
I was wrong yesterday because in one of my books,one wine connaisseuse
said there were over 500 kinds of Belgian beers!
On one label of a brand,you will see a pink elephant.
According to the author,if one should get that drunk,he/she will see a
pink elephant!
I haven't experienced it yet.
I guess we'll wait for you to tell us after your return!LOL
Do some Europeans drink beer in room temperature?
I didn't know it.Most of the Europeans I know drink cold beer from the
fridge(without ice cubes).
How cold can it be in Sao Paolo in your winter/our summer?
It's autumn at the end of October,and it shouldn't be that cold yet
provided everywhere you go in Europe then,there are radiators/heaters
on indoors.
All you need is prabably a thick long coat,a scarf,a pair of gloves
and a pair of warmer boots.If it snows earlier this year,then you'll
need to pack more clothes...
We'll see then.
By the way,Charles,I read your today's message.
If I don't have enough time to reply to you today,I'll do it
tomorrow.;)
Nice day,everyone!
Pln
On Jun 30, 3:15 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this Michael
> Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was another famous
> king :)
> These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am I right? I
> surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't mean I'm going to
> be drunk, maybe a little high :)
> Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers, the most commom
> one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in some countries
> in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
> I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels, and we going
> to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our itinerary and our
> great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this season, provided
> that we are not used to it.
> You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of women, very
> different from our culture.
> Thanks for the tips!
> Have a nice day
> Oshiro
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's to be
> > put away on the shelves:
> > 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is an
> > authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of Pop who
> > just passed away)
> > Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were named
> > George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> > 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
> > Surely is it a wine?
> > The explanation is that these are beers,produced from grain,with fruit
> > added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
> > They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on lambic
> > beers,and usually made with cherries or raspberries.
> > Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other fruits
> > and more countries have made an entrance.
> > The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit cherry
> > kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and delicacy,and
> > are dry.
> > They are the beer world's elegant response to pink champagne,and make
> > a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome guests at
> > a barbecue or summer party...'
> > Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs there.There are
> > over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
> > I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them during
> > breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
> > As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out Belgian ale there.
> > Belgians call ales 'speciales belges' or just 'belges',particularly in
> > the French-speaking regions of Belgium.
> > According to M.J.,try 'Vieux Temps'(it means Old Time),Horse
> > Ale,Lamot,Op-Ale and Palm.
> > On second thought,you should take your girlfriend to Paris because it
> > seems to be every woman's dream destination,and it's a bigger contrast
> > to your culture or Barcelona,isn't it?
> > When are your coming to Europe?;)
> > Nice day,everyone!
> > Pln
> > On Jun 29, 5:29 am, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Pln and all
> > > Nice to see you here again!!! :)
> > > I hope you are having a good time in your new flat!
> > > Yeah, I agree that just one week to visit 2 cities is going to be quite
> > > busy, but at that time, I won't be able to take more days off my work.
> > > I'm really excited about going there, and I'm happy to know that you
> > enjoyed
> > > Brussels. I'm looking forward to try many kinds of beers, I'll really
> > enjoy
> > > that!!! LOL
> > > I've been reading some information about there and they say much about
> > > chocolate, waffle and beer!! They must have such a good gastronomy!! My
> > > favorite kind of beer is Ale, a red beer. You got me curious about the
> > > cherry one.
> > > Thanks for the valuable tips, Pln!!! They were really good!
> > > Oshiro
> > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > It took me some time to finally find this message I was about to reply
> > > > to before our move to the new flat!
> > > > One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy schedule.I've
> > > > never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly recommend!;)
> > > > Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the cherry
> > > > one!
> > > > Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
> > > > recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
> > > > Too short time left for me to write more...
> > > > I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again!
> > > > Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us!
> > > > Pln
> > > > On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Pln, Charles, John, Josney and all!!
> > > > > I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing in
> > > > Europe.
> > > > > Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
> > > > > I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is the
> > first
> > > > of
> > > > > many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start
> > doing my
> > > > > itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should visit?
> > As
> > > > soon
> > > > > I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe.
> > > > > I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a
> > long
> > > > trip,
> > > > > just one week!
> > > > > Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!! I
> > > > prefer
> > > > > traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since I
> > > > prepared
> > > > > my route in advance.
> > > > > In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where many
> > > > > important facts happened there and because of this, there are many
> > > > > historical places to go.
> > > > > Nice day for you all
> > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi pln,
> > > > > > Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
> > > > > > It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy
> > > > > > day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or
> > > > > > trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before.
> > > > > > You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little girl
> > > > treated
> > > > > > badly by others weep here.^_^
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <
> > johnawesom...@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over
> > the
> > > > world,
> > > > > >> and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture,
> > languages,
> > > > > >> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense,
> > > > besides, my
> > > > > >> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it
> > well,
> > > > then i
> > > > > >> can use them in the conversation.
> > > > > >> PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget.
> > > > > >> I see and I believe.
> > > > > >> I do and I understand.
> > > > > >> Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)."
> > > > > >> I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english
> > version,
> > > > but
> > > > > >> in chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As
> > you
> > > > can see
> > > > > >> it belowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi > > > > > >> but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese
> > version
> > > > are
> > > > > >> really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000
> > years
> > > > ago,
> > > > > >> the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and
> > > > eygpt
> > > > > >> words cannot be identify by us easily as well.
> > > > > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>> Hi Josney and all,
> > > > > >>> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
> > > > > >>> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
> > > > > >>> board!
> > > > > >>> I really do!;)
> > > > > >>> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak
> > up,please!
> > > > > >>> LOL
> > > > > >>> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
> > > > > >>> Accomplished in some ways!
I found the beer with the pink elephant in the label LOL
Its name is "Delirium", it's suitable with what they say about seeing pink
elephants after drinking that LOL. I have to confess that I got really
excited about taste it and maybe see pink elephants!!! I'll do my best to
find that brand of beer there and then I'll tell you what I saw LOL
It's good to know that Europeans drink cold beer instead of in room
temperature.
Well, in Sao Paulo we don't have neither intense cold nor really intense
heat. We just entered in the winter season here and the average temperature
is about 10ºC when it's much cold. In the summer, the average is 30º,
sometimes a little more.
> I was wrong yesterday because in one of my books,one wine connaisseuse
> said there were over 500 kinds of Belgian beers!
> On one label of a brand,you will see a pink elephant.
> According to the author,if one should get that drunk,he/she will see a
> pink elephant!
> I haven't experienced it yet.
> I guess we'll wait for you to tell us after your return!LOL
> Do some Europeans drink beer in room temperature?
> I didn't know it.Most of the Europeans I know drink cold beer from the
> fridge(without ice cubes).
> How cold can it be in Sao Paolo in your winter/our summer?
> It's autumn at the end of October,and it shouldn't be that cold yet
> provided everywhere you go in Europe then,there are radiators/heaters
> on indoors.
> All you need is prabably a thick long coat,a scarf,a pair of gloves
> and a pair of warmer boots.If it snows earlier this year,then you'll
> need to pack more clothes...
> We'll see then.
> By the way,Charles,I read your today's message.
> If I don't have enough time to reply to you today,I'll do it
> tomorrow.;)
> Nice day,everyone!
> Pln
> On Jun 30, 3:15 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Pln, the beer advicer!!! LOL
> > Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this Michael
> > Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was another famous
> > king :)
> > These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am I right? I
> > surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't mean I'm going
> to
> > be drunk, maybe a little high :)
> > Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers, the most
> commom
> > one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in some
> countries
> > in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
> > I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels, and we
> going
> > to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our itinerary and
> our
> > great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this season,
> provided
> > that we are not used to it.
> > You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of women, very
> > different from our culture.
> > Thanks for the tips!
> > Have a nice day
> > Oshiro
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's to be
> > > put away on the shelves:
> > > 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is an
> > > authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of Pop who
> > > just passed away)
> > > Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were named
> > > George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> > > 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
> > > Surely is it a wine?
> > > The explanation is that these are beers,produced from grain,with fruit
> > > added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
> > > They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on lambic
> > > beers,and usually made with cherries or raspberries.
> > > Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other fruits
> > > and more countries have made an entrance.
> > > The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit cherry
> > > kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and delicacy,and
> > > are dry.
> > > They are the beer world's elegant response to pink champagne,and make
> > > a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome guests at
> > > a barbecue or summer party...'
> > > Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs there.There are
> > > over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
> > > I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them during
> > > breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
> > > As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out Belgian ale there.
> > > Belgians call ales 'speciales belges' or just 'belges',particularly in
> > > the French-speaking regions of Belgium.
> > > According to M.J.,try 'Vieux Temps'(it means Old Time),Horse
> > > Ale,Lamot,Op-Ale and Palm.
> > > On second thought,you should take your girlfriend to Paris because it
> > > seems to be every woman's dream destination,and it's a bigger contrast
> > > to your culture or Barcelona,isn't it?
> > > When are your coming to Europe?;)
> > > Nice day,everyone!
> > > Pln
> > > On Jun 29, 5:29 am, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Pln and all
> > > > Nice to see you here again!!! :)
> > > > I hope you are having a good time in your new flat!
> > > > Yeah, I agree that just one week to visit 2 cities is going to be
> quite
> > > > busy, but at that time, I won't be able to take more days off my
> work.
> > > > I'm really excited about going there, and I'm happy to know that you
> > > enjoyed
> > > > Brussels. I'm looking forward to try many kinds of beers, I'll really
> > > enjoy
> > > > that!!! LOL
> > > > I've been reading some information about there and they say much
> about
> > > > chocolate, waffle and beer!! They must have such a good gastronomy!!
> My
> > > > favorite kind of beer is Ale, a red beer. You got me curious about
> the
> > > > cherry one.
> > > > Thanks for the valuable tips, Pln!!! They were really good!
> > > > Oshiro
> > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > It took me some time to finally find this message I was about to
> reply
> > > > > to before our move to the new flat!
> > > > > One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy schedule.I've
> > > > > never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly recommend!;)
> > > > > Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the cherry
> > > > > one!
> > > > > Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
> > > > > recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
> > > > > Too short time left for me to write more...
> > > > > I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again!
> > > > > Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us!
> > > > > Pln
> > > > > On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Pln, Charles, John, Josney and all!!
> > > > > > I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing
> in
> > > > > Europe.
> > > > > > Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
> > > > > > I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is
> the
> > > first
> > > > > of
> > > > > > many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start
> > > doing my
> > > > > > itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should
> visit?
> > > As
> > > > > soon
> > > > > > I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe.
> > > > > > I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a
> > > long
> > > > > trip,
> > > > > > just one week!
> > > > > > Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!!
> I
> > > > > prefer
> > > > > > traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since
> I
> > > > > prepared
> > > > > > my route in advance.
> > > > > > In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where
> many
> > > > > > important facts happened there and because of this, there are
> many
> > > > > > historical places to go.
> > > > > > Nice day for you all
> > > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi pln,
> > > > > > > Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
> > > > > > > It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy
> > > > > > > day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or
> > > > > > > trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before.
> > > > > > > You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little
> girl
> > > > > treated
> > > > > > > badly by others weep here.^_^
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <
> > > johnawesom...@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all
> over
> > > the
> > > > > world,
> > > > > > >> and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture,
> > > languages,
> > > > > > >> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much
> offense,
> > > > > besides, my
> > > > > > >> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it
> > > well,
> > > > > then i
Before I forget,let me talk shop first as to remind you to learn some
easy and simple phrases in French on BBC world service.;)
It can come quite handy and make your stay in Paris more pleasant.
Hey,many thanks for showing me the pink elephant!LOL
I remember last end of October in Europe was at the temperaure of 10
to 15 degrees Celsius...
For Europeans it's rather warm,but for me the best is around 20!LOL
Well,10 for Taiwanese is too cold!
Good day!
Pln
On Jul 1, 3:29 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I found the beer with the pink elephant in the label LOL
> Its name is "Delirium", it's suitable with what they say about seeing pink
> elephants after drinking that LOL. I have to confess that I got really
> excited about taste it and maybe see pink elephants!!! I'll do my best to
> find that brand of beer there and then I'll tell you what I saw LOL
> It's good to know that Europeans drink cold beer instead of in room
> temperature.
> Well, in Sao Paulo we don't have neither intense cold nor really intense
> heat. We just entered in the winter season here and the average temperature
> is about 10ºC when it's much cold. In the summer, the average is 30º,
> sometimes a little more.
> Have a good day!!
> Oshiro
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:38 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > Hey,why do I like this title more?LOL
> > In order to measure up with that title,I googled a little 'Belgian
> > beer' and found some brands I was familiar with:
> > I was wrong yesterday because in one of my books,one wine connaisseuse
> > said there were over 500 kinds of Belgian beers!
> > On one label of a brand,you will see a pink elephant.
> > According to the author,if one should get that drunk,he/she will see a
> > pink elephant!
> > I haven't experienced it yet.
> > I guess we'll wait for you to tell us after your return!LOL
> > Do some Europeans drink beer in room temperature?
> > I didn't know it.Most of the Europeans I know drink cold beer from the
> > fridge(without ice cubes).
> > How cold can it be in Sao Paolo in your winter/our summer?
> > It's autumn at the end of October,and it shouldn't be that cold yet
> > provided everywhere you go in Europe then,there are radiators/heaters
> > on indoors.
> > All you need is prabably a thick long coat,a scarf,a pair of gloves
> > and a pair of warmer boots.If it snows earlier this year,then you'll
> > need to pack more clothes...
> > We'll see then.
> > By the way,Charles,I read your today's message.
> > If I don't have enough time to reply to you today,I'll do it
> > tomorrow.;)
> > Nice day,everyone!
> > Pln
> > On Jun 30, 3:15 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Pln, the beer advicer!!! LOL
> > > Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this Michael
> > > Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was another famous
> > > king :)
> > > These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am I right? I
> > > surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't mean I'm going
> > to
> > > be drunk, maybe a little high :)
> > > Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers, the most
> > commom
> > > one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in some
> > countries
> > > in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
> > > I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels, and we
> > going
> > > to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our itinerary and
> > our
> > > great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this season,
> > provided
> > > that we are not used to it.
> > > You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of women, very
> > > different from our culture.
> > > Thanks for the tips!
> > > Have a nice day
> > > Oshiro
> > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's to be
> > > > put away on the shelves:
> > > > 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is an
> > > > authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of Pop who
> > > > just passed away)
> > > > Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were named
> > > > George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> > > > 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
> > > > Surely is it a wine?
> > > > The explanation is that these are beers,produced from grain,with fruit
> > > > added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
> > > > They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on lambic
> > > > beers,and usually made with cherries or raspberries.
> > > > Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other fruits
> > > > and more countries have made an entrance.
> > > > The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit cherry
> > > > kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and delicacy,and
> > > > are dry.
> > > > They are the beer world's elegant response to pink champagne,and make
> > > > a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome guests at
> > > > a barbecue or summer party...'
> > > > Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs there.There are
> > > > over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
> > > > I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them during
> > > > breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
> > > > As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out Belgian ale there.
> > > > Belgians call ales 'speciales belges' or just 'belges',particularly in
> > > > the French-speaking regions of Belgium.
> > > > According to M.J.,try 'Vieux Temps'(it means Old Time),Horse
> > > > Ale,Lamot,Op-Ale and Palm.
> > > > On second thought,you should take your girlfriend to Paris because it
> > > > seems to be every woman's dream destination,and it's a bigger contrast
> > > > to your culture or Barcelona,isn't it?
> > > > When are your coming to Europe?;)
> > > > Nice day,everyone!
> > > > Pln
> > > > On Jun 29, 5:29 am, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Pln and all
> > > > > Nice to see you here again!!! :)
> > > > > I hope you are having a good time in your new flat!
> > > > > Yeah, I agree that just one week to visit 2 cities is going to be
> > quite
> > > > > busy, but at that time, I won't be able to take more days off my
> > work.
> > > > > I'm really excited about going there, and I'm happy to know that you
> > > > enjoyed
> > > > > Brussels. I'm looking forward to try many kinds of beers, I'll really
> > > > enjoy
> > > > > that!!! LOL
> > > > > I've been reading some information about there and they say much
> > about
> > > > > chocolate, waffle and beer!! They must have such a good gastronomy!!
> > My
> > > > > favorite kind of beer is Ale, a red beer. You got me curious about
> > the
> > > > > cherry one.
> > > > > Thanks for the valuable tips, Pln!!! They were really good!
> > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > > It took me some time to finally find this message I was about to
> > reply
> > > > > > to before our move to the new flat!
> > > > > > One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy schedule.I've
> > > > > > never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly recommend!;)
> > > > > > Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the cherry
> > > > > > one!
> > > > > > Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
> > > > > > recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
> > > > > > Too short time left for me to write more...
> > > > > > I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again!
> > > > > > Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us!
> > > > > > Pln
> > > > > > On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Pln, Charles, John, Josney and all!!
> > > > > > > I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing
> > in
> > > > > > Europe.
> > > > > > > Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
> > > > > > > I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is
> > the
> > > > first
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start
> > > > doing my
> > > > > > > itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should
> > visit?
> > > > As
> > > > > > soon
> > > > > > > I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe.
> > > > > > > I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a
> > > > long
> > > > > > trip,
> > > > > > > just one week!
> > > > > > > Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!!
> > I
> > > > > > prefer
> > > > > > > traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since
> > I
> > > > > > prepared
> > > > > > > my route in advance.
> > > > > > > In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where
> > many
> > > > > > > important facts happened there and because of this, there are
> > many
> > > > > > > historical places to go.
> > > > > > > Nice day for you all
> > > > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <huixin...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi pln,
> > > > > > > > Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
> > > > > > > > It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my
Good point Pln, I'm going to look for some French useful phrases, mainly
greetings that may be important and I can be more polite if I am able to
greet them in their language.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Oshiro and all,
> Before I forget,let me talk shop first as to remind you to learn some
> easy and simple phrases in French on BBC world service.;)
> It can come quite handy and make your stay in Paris more pleasant.
> Hey,many thanks for showing me the pink elephant!LOL
> I remember last end of October in Europe was at the temperaure of 10
> to 15 degrees Celsius...
> For Europeans it's rather warm,but for me the best is around 20!LOL
> Well,10 for Taiwanese is too cold!
> Good day!
> Pln
> On Jul 1, 3:29 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Pln and all!!!
> > I found the beer with the pink elephant in the label LOL
> > Its name is "Delirium", it's suitable with what they say about seeing
> pink
> > elephants after drinking that LOL. I have to confess that I got really
> > excited about taste it and maybe see pink elephants!!! I'll do my best to
> > find that brand of beer there and then I'll tell you what I saw LOL
> > It's good to know that Europeans drink cold beer instead of in room
> > temperature.
> > Well, in Sao Paulo we don't have neither intense cold nor really intense
> > heat. We just entered in the winter season here and the average
> temperature
> > is about 10ºC when it's much cold. In the summer, the average is 30º,
> > sometimes a little more.
> > Have a good day!!
> > Oshiro
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:38 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > Hey,why do I like this title more?LOL
> > > In order to measure up with that title,I googled a little 'Belgian
> > > beer' and found some brands I was familiar with:
> > > I was wrong yesterday because in one of my books,one wine connaisseuse
> > > said there were over 500 kinds of Belgian beers!
> > > On one label of a brand,you will see a pink elephant.
> > > According to the author,if one should get that drunk,he/she will see a
> > > pink elephant!
> > > I haven't experienced it yet.
> > > I guess we'll wait for you to tell us after your return!LOL
> > > Do some Europeans drink beer in room temperature?
> > > I didn't know it.Most of the Europeans I know drink cold beer from the
> > > fridge(without ice cubes).
> > > How cold can it be in Sao Paolo in your winter/our summer?
> > > It's autumn at the end of October,and it shouldn't be that cold yet
> > > provided everywhere you go in Europe then,there are radiators/heaters
> > > on indoors.
> > > All you need is prabably a thick long coat,a scarf,a pair of gloves
> > > and a pair of warmer boots.If it snows earlier this year,then you'll
> > > need to pack more clothes...
> > > We'll see then.
> > > By the way,Charles,I read your today's message.
> > > If I don't have enough time to reply to you today,I'll do it
> > > tomorrow.;)
> > > Nice day,everyone!
> > > Pln
> > > On Jun 30, 3:15 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Pln, the beer advicer!!! LOL
> > > > Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this Michael
> > > > Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was another
> famous
> > > > king :)
> > > > These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am I right?
> I
> > > > surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't mean I'm
> going
> > > to
> > > > be drunk, maybe a little high :)
> > > > Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers, the most
> > > commom
> > > > one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in some
> > > countries
> > > > in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
> > > > I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels, and we
> > > going
> > > > to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our itinerary
> and
> > > our
> > > > great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this season,
> > > provided
> > > > that we are not used to it.
> > > > You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of women, very
> > > > different from our culture.
> > > > Thanks for the tips!
> > > > Have a nice day
> > > > Oshiro
> > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's to
> be
> > > > > put away on the shelves:
> > > > > 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is an
> > > > > authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of Pop
> who
> > > > > just passed away)
> > > > > Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were named
> > > > > George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> > > > > 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
> > > > > Surely is it a wine?
> > > > > The explanation is that these are beers,produced from grain,with
> fruit
> > > > > added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
> > > > > They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on
> lambic
> > > > > beers,and usually made with cherries or raspberries.
> > > > > Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other
> fruits
> > > > > and more countries have made an entrance.
> > > > > The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit cherry
> > > > > kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and
> delicacy,and
> > > > > are dry.
> > > > > They are the beer world's elegant response to pink champagne,and
> make
> > > > > a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome guests
> at
> > > > > a barbecue or summer party...'
> > > > > Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs there.There
> are
> > > > > over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
> > > > > I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them during
> > > > > breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
> > > > > As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out Belgian ale
> there.
> > > > > Belgians call ales 'speciales belges' or just 'belges',particularly
> in
> > > > > the French-speaking regions of Belgium.
> > > > > According to M.J.,try 'Vieux Temps'(it means Old Time),Horse
> > > > > Ale,Lamot,Op-Ale and Palm.
> > > > > On second thought,you should take your girlfriend to Paris because
> it
> > > > > seems to be every woman's dream destination,and it's a bigger
> contrast
> > > > > to your culture or Barcelona,isn't it?
> > > > > When are your coming to Europe?;)
> > > > > Nice day,everyone!
> > > > > Pln
> > > > > On Jun 29, 5:29 am, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Pln and all
> > > > > > Nice to see you here again!!! :)
> > > > > > I hope you are having a good time in your new flat!
> > > > > > Yeah, I agree that just one week to visit 2 cities is going to be
> > > quite
> > > > > > busy, but at that time, I won't be able to take more days off my
> > > work.
> > > > > > I'm really excited about going there, and I'm happy to know that
> you
> > > > > enjoyed
> > > > > > Brussels. I'm looking forward to try many kinds of beers, I'll
> really
> > > > > enjoy
> > > > > > that!!! LOL
> > > > > > I've been reading some information about there and they say much
> > > about
> > > > > > chocolate, waffle and beer!! They must have such a good
> gastronomy!!
> > > My
> > > > > > favorite kind of beer is Ale, a red beer. You got me curious
> about
> > > the
> > > > > > cherry one.
> > > > > > Thanks for the valuable tips, Pln!!! They were really good!
> > > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > > > It took me some time to finally find this message I was about
> to
> > > reply
> > > > > > > to before our move to the new flat!
> > > > > > > One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy
> schedule.I've
> > > > > > > never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly
> recommend!;)
> > > > > > > Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the
> cherry
> > > > > > > one!
> > > > > > > Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
> > > > > > > recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
> > > > > > > Too short time left for me to write more...
> > > > > > > I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again!
> > > > > > > Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us!
> > > > > > > Pln
> > > > > > > On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Pln, Charles, John, Josney and all!!
> > > > > > > > I've been reading all these messages about traveling and
> studing
> > > in
> > > > > > > Europe.
> > > > > > > > Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
> > > > > > > > I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this
> is
> > > the
> > > > > first
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to
> start
> > > > > doing my
> > > > > > > > itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should
> > > visit?
> > > > > As
> > > > > > > soon
> > > > > > > > I know some of you in the group have already
> Good point Pln, I'm going to look for some French useful phrases, mainly
> greetings that may be important and I can be more polite if I am able to
> greet them in their language.
> New idiom: "Talk shop" :)
> I'm glad you enjoy the pink elephant LOL
> Great weekend for all of you!!
> Oshiro
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > Before I forget,let me talk shop first as to remind you to learn some
> > easy and simple phrases in French on BBC world service.;)
> > It can come quite handy and make your stay in Paris more pleasant.
> > Hey,many thanks for showing me the pink elephant!LOL
> > I remember last end of October in Europe was at the temperaure of 10
> > to 15 degrees Celsius...
> > For Europeans it's rather warm,but for me the best is around 20!LOL
> > Well,10 for Taiwanese is too cold!
> > Good day!
> > Pln
> > On Jul 1, 3:29 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Pln and all!!!
> > > I found the beer with the pink elephant in the label LOL
> > > Its name is "Delirium", it's suitable with what they say about seeing
> > pink
> > > elephants after drinking that LOL. I have to confess that I got really
> > > excited about taste it and maybe see pink elephants!!! I'll do my best to
> > > find that brand of beer there and then I'll tell you what I saw LOL
> > > It's good to know that Europeans drink cold beer instead of in room
> > > temperature.
> > > Well, in Sao Paulo we don't have neither intense cold nor really intense
> > > heat. We just entered in the winter season here and the average
> > temperature
> > > is about 10ºC when it's much cold. In the summer, the average is 30º,
> > > sometimes a little more.
> > > Have a good day!!
> > > Oshiro
> > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:38 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > Hey,why do I like this title more?LOL
> > > > In order to measure up with that title,I googled a little 'Belgian
> > > > beer' and found some brands I was familiar with:
> > > > I was wrong yesterday because in one of my books,one wine connaisseuse
> > > > said there were over 500 kinds of Belgian beers!
> > > > On one label of a brand,you will see a pink elephant.
> > > > According to the author,if one should get that drunk,he/she will see a
> > > > pink elephant!
> > > > I haven't experienced it yet.
> > > > I guess we'll wait for you to tell us after your return!LOL
> > > > Do some Europeans drink beer in room temperature?
> > > > I didn't know it.Most of the Europeans I know drink cold beer from the
> > > > fridge(without ice cubes).
> > > > How cold can it be in Sao Paolo in your winter/our summer?
> > > > It's autumn at the end of October,and it shouldn't be that cold yet
> > > > provided everywhere you go in Europe then,there are radiators/heaters
> > > > on indoors.
> > > > All you need is prabably a thick long coat,a scarf,a pair of gloves
> > > > and a pair of warmer boots.If it snows earlier this year,then you'll
> > > > need to pack more clothes...
> > > > We'll see then.
> > > > By the way,Charles,I read your today's message.
> > > > If I don't have enough time to reply to you today,I'll do it
> > > > tomorrow.;)
> > > > Nice day,everyone!
> > > > Pln
> > > > On Jun 30, 3:15 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Pln, the beer advicer!!! LOL
> > > > > Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this Michael
> > > > > Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was another
> > famous
> > > > > king :)
> > > > > These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am I right?
> > I
> > > > > surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't mean I'm
> > going
> > > > to
> > > > > be drunk, maybe a little high :)
> > > > > Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers, the most
> > > > commom
> > > > > one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in some
> > > > countries
> > > > > in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
> > > > > I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels, and we
> > > > going
> > > > > to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our itinerary
> > and
> > > > our
> > > > > great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this season,
> > > > provided
> > > > > that we are not used to it.
> > > > > You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of women, very
> > > > > different from our culture.
> > > > > Thanks for the tips!
> > > > > Have a nice day
> > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > > Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's to
> > be
> > > > > > put away on the shelves:
> > > > > > 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is an
> > > > > > authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of Pop
> > who
> > > > > > just passed away)
> > > > > > Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were named
> > > > > > George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> > > > > > 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
> > > > > > Surely is it a wine?
> > > > > > The explanation is that these are beers,produced from grain,with
> > fruit
> > > > > > added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
> > > > > > They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on
> > lambic
> > > > > > beers,and usually made with cherries or raspberries.
> > > > > > Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other
> > fruits
> > > > > > and more countries have made an entrance.
> > > > > > The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit cherry
> > > > > > kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and
> > delicacy,and
> > > > > > are dry.
> > > > > > They are the beer world's elegant response to pink champagne,and
> > make
> > > > > > a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome guests
> > at
> > > > > > a barbecue or summer party...'
> > > > > > Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs there.There
> > are
> > > > > > over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
> > > > > > I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them during
> > > > > > breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
> > > > > > As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out Belgian ale
> > there.
> > > > > > Belgians call ales 'speciales belges' or just 'belges',particularly
> > in
> > > > > > the French-speaking regions of Belgium.
> > > > > > According to M.J.,try 'Vieux Temps'(it means Old Time),Horse
> > > > > > Ale,Lamot,Op-Ale and Palm.
> > > > > > On second thought,you should take your girlfriend to Paris because
> > it
> > > > > > seems to be every woman's dream destination,and it's a bigger
> > contrast
> > > > > > to your culture or Barcelona,isn't it?
> > > > > > When are your coming to Europe?;)
> > > > > > Nice day,everyone!
> > > > > > Pln
> > > > > > On Jun 29, 5:29 am, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Pln and all
> > > > > > > Nice to see you here again!!! :)
> > > > > > > I hope you are having a good time in your new flat!
> > > > > > > Yeah, I agree that just one week to visit 2 cities is going to be
> > > > quite
> > > > > > > busy, but at that time, I won't be able to take more days off my
> > > > work.
> > > > > > > I'm really excited about going there, and I'm happy to know that
> > you
> > > > > > enjoyed
> > > > > > > Brussels. I'm looking forward to try many kinds of beers, I'll
> > really
> > > > > > enjoy
> > > > > > > that!!! LOL
> > > > > > > I've been reading some information about there and they say much
> > > > about
> > > > > > > chocolate, waffle and beer!! They must have such a good
> > gastronomy!!
> > > > My
> > > > > > > favorite kind of beer is Ale, a red beer. You got me curious
> > about
> > > > the
> > > > > > > cherry one.
> > > > > > > Thanks for the valuable tips, Pln!!! They were really good!
> > > > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > > > > It took me some time to finally find this message I was about
> > to
> > > > reply
> > > > > > > > to before our move to the new flat!
> > > > > > > > One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy
> > schedule.I've
> > > > > > > > never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly
> > recommend!;)
> > > > > > > > Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the
> > cherry
> > > > > > > > one!
> > > > > > > > Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
> > > > > > > > recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
> > > > > > > > Too short time left for me to write more...
> > > > > > > > I'll
Thank you for the links, they are really helpful. Unfortunately I hadn't
seen the news about the new Google's tool. Google city tour is really great
to help us plan itinerary trips. As soon as possible I'll check out the
basic vocabulary of French, BBC has a huge range of resources to help
students regarding culture and languages.
Through the event links you sent me, I could check there will be a concert
of Eros Ramazzotti at the time I will be there, in Brussels. As a matter of
fact, my knowledge about him is almost nothing. LOL
By the way, as we are talking about google services, Google street view is
going to scan some streets here in Sao Paulo. Some concerns about privacity
are coming up. The same as the ones there have been in other countries that
Google has scanned. Besides, my opinion is that they provide us interesting
and helping information about the world. Some use them for the bad, other
for good.
> Wish you all good luck and great week ahead!
> Claire
> On Jul 3, 3:06 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Good morning Pln and all!!!!
> > Good point Pln, I'm going to look for some French useful phrases, mainly
> > greetings that may be important and I can be more polite if I am able to
> > greet them in their language.
> > New idiom: "Talk shop" :)
> > I'm glad you enjoy the pink elephant LOL
> > Great weekend for all of you!!
> > Oshiro
> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > Before I forget,let me talk shop first as to remind you to learn some
> > > easy and simple phrases in French on BBC world service.;)
> > > It can come quite handy and make your stay in Paris more pleasant.
> > > Hey,many thanks for showing me the pink elephant!LOL
> > > I remember last end of October in Europe was at the temperaure of 10
> > > to 15 degrees Celsius...
> > > For Europeans it's rather warm,but for me the best is around 20!LOL
> > > Well,10 for Taiwanese is too cold!
> > > Good day!
> > > Pln
> > > On Jul 1, 3:29 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Pln and all!!!
> > > > I found the beer with the pink elephant in the label LOL
> > > > Its name is "Delirium", it's suitable with what they say about seeing
> > > pink
> > > > elephants after drinking that LOL. I have to confess that I got
> really
> > > > excited about taste it and maybe see pink elephants!!! I'll do my
> best to
> > > > find that brand of beer there and then I'll tell you what I saw LOL
> > > > It's good to know that Europeans drink cold beer instead of in room
> > > > temperature.
> > > > Well, in Sao Paulo we don't have neither intense cold nor really
> intense
> > > > heat. We just entered in the winter season here and the average
> > > temperature
> > > > is about 10ºC when it's much cold. In the summer, the average is 30º,
> > > > sometimes a little more.
> > > > Have a good day!!
> > > > Oshiro
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:38 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > Hey,why do I like this title more?LOL
> > > > > In order to measure up with that title,I googled a little 'Belgian
> > > > > beer' and found some brands I was familiar with:
> > > > > I was wrong yesterday because in one of my books,one wine
> connaisseuse
> > > > > said there were over 500 kinds of Belgian beers!
> > > > > On one label of a brand,you will see a pink elephant.
> > > > > According to the author,if one should get that drunk,he/she will
> see a
> > > > > pink elephant!
> > > > > I haven't experienced it yet.
> > > > > I guess we'll wait for you to tell us after your return!LOL
> > > > > Do some Europeans drink beer in room temperature?
> > > > > I didn't know it.Most of the Europeans I know drink cold beer from
> the
> > > > > fridge(without ice cubes).
> > > > > How cold can it be in Sao Paolo in your winter/our summer?
> > > > > It's autumn at the end of October,and it shouldn't be that cold yet
> > > > > provided everywhere you go in Europe then,there are
> radiators/heaters
> > > > > on indoors.
> > > > > All you need is prabably a thick long coat,a scarf,a pair of gloves
> > > > > and a pair of warmer boots.If it snows earlier this year,then
> you'll
> > > > > need to pack more clothes...
> > > > > We'll see then.
> > > > > By the way,Charles,I read your today's message.
> > > > > If I don't have enough time to reply to you today,I'll do it
> > > > > tomorrow.;)
> > > > > Nice day,everyone!
> > > > > Pln
> > > > > On Jun 30, 3:15 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Pln, the beer advicer!!! LOL
> > > > > > Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this
> Michael
> > > > > > Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was
> another
> > > famous
> > > > > > king :)
> > > > > > These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am I
> right?
> > > I
> > > > > > surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't mean
> I'm
> > > going
> > > > > to
> > > > > > be drunk, maybe a little high :)
> > > > > > Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers, the
> most
> > > > > commom
> > > > > > one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in some
> > > > > countries
> > > > > > in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
> > > > > > I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels, and
> we
> > > > > going
> > > > > > to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our
> itinerary
> > > and
> > > > > our
> > > > > > great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this
> season,
> > > > > provided
> > > > > > that we are not used to it.
> > > > > > You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of women,
> very
> > > > > > different from our culture.
> > > > > > Thanks for the tips!
> > > > > > Have a nice day
> > > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > > > Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's
> to
> > > be
> > > > > > > put away on the shelves:
> > > > > > > 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is
> an
> > > > > > > authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of
> Pop
> > > who
> > > > > > > just passed away)
> > > > > > > Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were
> named
> > > > > > > George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> > > > > > > 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
> > > > > > > Surely is it a wine?
> > > > > > > The explanation is that these are beers,produced from
> grain,with
> > > fruit
> > > > > > > added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
> > > > > > > They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on
> > > lambic
> > > > > > > beers,and usually made with cherries or raspberries.
> > > > > > > Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other
> > > fruits
> > > > > > > and more countries have made an entrance.
> > > > > > > The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit
> cherry
> > > > > > > kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and
> > > delicacy,and
> > > > > > > are dry.
> > > > > > > They are the beer world's elegant response to pink
> champagne,and
> > > make
> > > > > > > a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome
> guests
> > > at
> > > > > > > a barbecue or summer party...'
> > > > > > > Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs
> there.There
> > > are
> > > > > > > over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
> > > > > > > I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them
> during
> > > > > > > breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
> > > > > > > As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out Belgian ale
> > > there.
> > > > > > > Belgians call ales 'speciales belges' or just
> 'belges',particularly
> > > in
> > > > > > > the French-speaking regions of Belgium.
> > > > > > > According to M.J.,try 'Vieux Temps'(it means Old Time),Horse
> > > > > > > Ale,Lamot,Op-Ale and Palm.
> > > > > > > On second thought,you should take your girlfriend to Paris
> because
> > > it
> > > > > > > seems to be every woman's dream destination,and it's a bigger
> > > contrast
> > > > > > > to your culture or Barcelona,isn't it?
They have so many concerts to go to:
Leonard Cohen!
U2!
Green Day!
Pete Doherty!
Pixies
Arctic Monkeys!:(
I like Eros Ramazzotti for his voice and music.
I don't know much about him,either!LOL
I know what you meant by pointing out the dilemma of all citizens
nowadays...
Which is more important,privacy or security?:(
As a tourist,you benefit from this service whereas as a resident,you
suffer from it.
I wish there would be a win-win solution to this controversy!
Good day to us all!
Claire
On Jul 6, 6:53 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for the links, they are really helpful. Unfortunately I hadn't
> seen the news about the new Google's tool. Google city tour is really great
> to help us plan itinerary trips. As soon as possible I'll check out the
> basic vocabulary of French, BBC has a huge range of resources to help
> students regarding culture and languages.
> Through the event links you sent me, I could check there will be a concert
> of Eros Ramazzotti at the time I will be there, in Brussels. As a matter of
> fact, my knowledge about him is almost nothing. LOL
> By the way, as we are talking about google services, Google street view is
> going to scan some streets here in Sao Paulo. Some concerns about privacity
> are coming up. The same as the ones there have been in other countries that
> Google has scanned. Besides, my opinion is that they provide us interesting
> and helping information about the world. Some use them for the bad, other
> for good.
> Have a good Monday you all!!
> Oshiro
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, claire <claireletour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > Google launched city tours last weekend and lucky you I saw the news
> > on BBC then.;)
> > Wish you all good luck and great week ahead!
> > Claire
> > On Jul 3, 3:06 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Good morning Pln and all!!!!
> > > Good point Pln, I'm going to look for some French useful phrases, mainly
> > > greetings that may be important and I can be more polite if I am able to
> > > greet them in their language.
> > > New idiom: "Talk shop" :)
> > > I'm glad you enjoy the pink elephant LOL
> > > Great weekend for all of you!!
> > > Oshiro
> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > Before I forget,let me talk shop first as to remind you to learn some
> > > > easy and simple phrases in French on BBC world service.;)
> > > > It can come quite handy and make your stay in Paris more pleasant.
> > > > Hey,many thanks for showing me the pink elephant!LOL
> > > > I remember last end of October in Europe was at the temperaure of 10
> > > > to 15 degrees Celsius...
> > > > For Europeans it's rather warm,but for me the best is around 20!LOL
> > > > Well,10 for Taiwanese is too cold!
> > > > Good day!
> > > > Pln
> > > > On Jul 1, 3:29 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Pln and all!!!
> > > > > I found the beer with the pink elephant in the label LOL
> > > > > Its name is "Delirium", it's suitable with what they say about seeing
> > > > pink
> > > > > elephants after drinking that LOL. I have to confess that I got
> > really
> > > > > excited about taste it and maybe see pink elephants!!! I'll do my
> > best to
> > > > > find that brand of beer there and then I'll tell you what I saw LOL
> > > > > It's good to know that Europeans drink cold beer instead of in room
> > > > > temperature.
> > > > > Well, in Sao Paulo we don't have neither intense cold nor really
> > intense
> > > > > heat. We just entered in the winter season here and the average
> > > > temperature
> > > > > is about 10ºC when it's much cold. In the summer, the average is 30º,
> > > > > sometimes a little more.
> > > > > Have a good day!!
> > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:38 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > > Hey,why do I like this title more?LOL
> > > > > > In order to measure up with that title,I googled a little 'Belgian
> > > > > > beer' and found some brands I was familiar with:
> > > > > > I was wrong yesterday because in one of my books,one wine
> > connaisseuse
> > > > > > said there were over 500 kinds of Belgian beers!
> > > > > > On one label of a brand,you will see a pink elephant.
> > > > > > According to the author,if one should get that drunk,he/she will
> > see a
> > > > > > pink elephant!
> > > > > > I haven't experienced it yet.
> > > > > > I guess we'll wait for you to tell us after your return!LOL
> > > > > > Do some Europeans drink beer in room temperature?
> > > > > > I didn't know it.Most of the Europeans I know drink cold beer from
> > the
> > > > > > fridge(without ice cubes).
> > > > > > How cold can it be in Sao Paolo in your winter/our summer?
> > > > > > It's autumn at the end of October,and it shouldn't be that cold yet
> > > > > > provided everywhere you go in Europe then,there are
> > radiators/heaters
> > > > > > on indoors.
> > > > > > All you need is prabably a thick long coat,a scarf,a pair of gloves
> > > > > > and a pair of warmer boots.If it snows earlier this year,then
> > you'll
> > > > > > need to pack more clothes...
> > > > > > We'll see then.
> > > > > > By the way,Charles,I read your today's message.
> > > > > > If I don't have enough time to reply to you today,I'll do it
> > > > > > tomorrow.;)
> > > > > > Nice day,everyone!
> > > > > > Pln
> > > > > > On Jun 30, 3:15 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Pln, the beer advicer!!! LOL
> > > > > > > Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this
> > Michael
> > > > > > > Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was
> > another
> > > > famous
> > > > > > > king :)
> > > > > > > These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am I
> > right?
> > > > I
> > > > > > > surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't mean
> > I'm
> > > > going
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > be drunk, maybe a little high :)
> > > > > > > Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers, the
> > most
> > > > > > commom
> > > > > > > one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in some
> > > > > > countries
> > > > > > > in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
> > > > > > > I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels, and
> > we
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > > to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our
> > itinerary
> > > > and
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this
> > season,
> > > > > > provided
> > > > > > > that we are not used to it.
> > > > > > > You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of women,
> > very
> > > > > > > different from our culture.
> > > > > > > Thanks for the tips!
> > > > > > > Have a nice day
> > > > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > > > > Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > put away on the shelves:
> > > > > > > > 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is
> > an
> > > > > > > > authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of
> > Pop
> > > > who
> > > > > > > > just passed away)
> > > > > > > > Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were
> > named
> > > > > > > > George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> > > > > > > > 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
> > > > > > > > Surely is it a wine?
> > > > > > > > The explanation is that these are beers,produced from
> > grain,with
> > > > fruit
> > > > > > > > added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
> > > > > > > > They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on
> > > > lambic
> > > > > > > > beers,and usually made with cherries or raspberries.
> > > > > > > > Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other
> > > > fruits
> > > > > > > > and more countries have made an entrance.
> > > > > > > > The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit
> > cherry
> > > > > > > > kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and
> > > > delicacy,and
> > > > > > > > are dry.
> > > > > > > > They are the beer world's elegant response to pink
> > champagne,and
> > > > make
> > > > > > > > a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome
> > guests
> > > > at
> > > > > > > > a barbecue or summer party...'
> > > > > > > > Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs
> > there.There
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
> > > > > > > > I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them
> > during
> > > > > > > > breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
> > > > > > > > As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out
Yeah, you have a point, indeed, Parisians are really lucky!!
From these list of bands you mentioned, I enjoy almost all of them: U2,
Green Day, Pixies, Artic Monkeys. In this point, Latin America has a lack of
big concerts if compared to USA and Europe. I think it's because South
America has minor importance in their marketing scheme. When these bands
come to Brazil, the prices are high and even though the high prices, we
crowd the stadiums and clubs where they play. They shoud come more often
here.
Regarding the service Google offer us and the dilemma between security or
privacy, I believe it's hard to cope with that. The internet came to blow
our covers. :)
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:02 AM, claire <claireletour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Oshiro and all,
> Oh my goodness,how lucky Parisians are!!!
> They have so many concerts to go to:
> Leonard Cohen!
> U2!
> Green Day!
> Pete Doherty!
> Pixies
> Arctic Monkeys!:(
> I like Eros Ramazzotti for his voice and music.
> I don't know much about him,either!LOL
> I know what you meant by pointing out the dilemma of all citizens
> nowadays...
> Which is more important,privacy or security?:(
> As a tourist,you benefit from this service whereas as a resident,you
> suffer from it.
> I wish there would be a win-win solution to this controversy!
> Good day to us all!
> Claire
> On Jul 6, 6:53 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Claire and all!!!
> > Thank you for the links, they are really helpful. Unfortunately I hadn't
> > seen the news about the new Google's tool. Google city tour is really
> great
> > to help us plan itinerary trips. As soon as possible I'll check out the
> > basic vocabulary of French, BBC has a huge range of resources to help
> > students regarding culture and languages.
> > Through the event links you sent me, I could check there will be a
> concert
> > of Eros Ramazzotti at the time I will be there, in Brussels. As a matter
> of
> > fact, my knowledge about him is almost nothing. LOL
> > By the way, as we are talking about google services, Google street view
> is
> > going to scan some streets here in Sao Paulo. Some concerns about
> privacity
> > are coming up. The same as the ones there have been in other countries
> that
> > Google has scanned. Besides, my opinion is that they provide us
> interesting
> > and helping information about the world. Some use them for the bad, other
> > for good.
> > Have a good Monday you all!!
> > Oshiro
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, claire <claireletour...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > Google launched city tours last weekend and lucky you I saw the news
> > > on BBC then.;)
> > > Wish you all good luck and great week ahead!
> > > Claire
> > > On Jul 3, 3:06 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Good morning Pln and all!!!!
> > > > Good point Pln, I'm going to look for some French useful phrases,
> mainly
> > > > greetings that may be important and I can be more polite if I am able
> to
> > > > greet them in their language.
> > > > New idiom: "Talk shop" :)
> > > > I'm glad you enjoy the pink elephant LOL
> > > > Great weekend for all of you!!
> > > > Oshiro
> > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > Before I forget,let me talk shop first as to remind you to learn
> some
> > > > > easy and simple phrases in French on BBC world service.;)
> > > > > It can come quite handy and make your stay in Paris more pleasant.
> > > > > Hey,many thanks for showing me the pink elephant!LOL
> > > > > I remember last end of October in Europe was at the temperaure of
> 10
> > > > > to 15 degrees Celsius...
> > > > > For Europeans it's rather warm,but for me the best is around 20!LOL
> > > > > Well,10 for Taiwanese is too cold!
> > > > > Good day!
> > > > > Pln
> > > > > On Jul 1, 3:29 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Pln and all!!!
> > > > > > I found the beer with the pink elephant in the label LOL
> > > > > > Its name is "Delirium", it's suitable with what they say about
> seeing
> > > > > pink
> > > > > > elephants after drinking that LOL. I have to confess that I got
> > > really
> > > > > > excited about taste it and maybe see pink elephants!!! I'll do my
> > > best to
> > > > > > find that brand of beer there and then I'll tell you what I saw
> LOL
> > > > > > It's good to know that Europeans drink cold beer instead of in
> room
> > > > > > temperature.
> > > > > > Well, in Sao Paulo we don't have neither intense cold nor really
> > > intense
> > > > > > heat. We just entered in the winter season here and the average
> > > > > temperature
> > > > > > is about 10ºC when it's much cold. In the summer, the average is
> 30º,
> > > > > > sometimes a little more.
> > > > > > Have a good day!!
> > > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:38 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > > > Hey,why do I like this title more?LOL
> > > > > > > In order to measure up with that title,I googled a little
> 'Belgian
> > > > > > > beer' and found some brands I was familiar with:
> > > > > > > I was wrong yesterday because in one of my books,one wine
> > > connaisseuse
> > > > > > > said there were over 500 kinds of Belgian beers!
> > > > > > > On one label of a brand,you will see a pink elephant.
> > > > > > > According to the author,if one should get that drunk,he/she
> will
> > > see a
> > > > > > > pink elephant!
> > > > > > > I haven't experienced it yet.
> > > > > > > I guess we'll wait for you to tell us after your return!LOL
> > > > > > > Do some Europeans drink beer in room temperature?
> > > > > > > I didn't know it.Most of the Europeans I know drink cold beer
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > > fridge(without ice cubes).
> > > > > > > How cold can it be in Sao Paolo in your winter/our summer?
> > > > > > > It's autumn at the end of October,and it shouldn't be that cold
> yet
> > > > > > > provided everywhere you go in Europe then,there are
> > > radiators/heaters
> > > > > > > on indoors.
> > > > > > > All you need is prabably a thick long coat,a scarf,a pair of
> gloves
> > > > > > > and a pair of warmer boots.If it snows earlier this year,then
> > > you'll
> > > > > > > need to pack more clothes...
> > > > > > > We'll see then.
> > > > > > > By the way,Charles,I read your today's message.
> > > > > > > If I don't have enough time to reply to you today,I'll do it
> > > > > > > tomorrow.;)
> > > > > > > On Jun 30, 3:15 pm, Rafael Oshiro <rafael.osh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Pln, the beer advicer!!! LOL
> > > > > > > > Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this
> > > Michael
> > > > > > > > Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was
> > > another
> > > > > famous
> > > > > > > > king :)
> > > > > > > > These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am
> I
> > > right?
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't
> mean
> > > I'm
> > > > > going
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > be drunk, maybe a little high :)
> > > > > > > > Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers,
> the
> > > most
> > > > > > > commom
> > > > > > > > one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in
> some
> > > > > > > countries
> > > > > > > > in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
> > > > > > > > I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels,
> and
> > > we
> > > > > > > going
> > > > > > > > to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our
> > > itinerary
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this
> > > season,
> > > > > > > provided
> > > > > > > > that we are not used to it.
> > > > > > > > You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of
> women,
> > > very
> > > > > > > > different from our culture.
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the tips!
> > > > > > > > Have a nice day
> > > > > > > > Oshiro
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <pln...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
> > > > > > > > > Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my
> husband's
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > put away on the shelves:
> > > > > > > > > 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson'
> is
> > > an
> > > > > > > > > authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King
> of
> > > Pop
> > > > > who
> > > > > > > > > just passed away)
> > > > > > > > > Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were
> > > named
> > > > > > > > > George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> > > > > > > > > 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a
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