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Have a Dell laptop that is acting a little odd. After installing the OS and everything I learn that the drivers are supposed to be installed in a particular order. Has anyone dealt with this issue? Thanks.
> Have a Dell laptop that is acting a little odd. After installing the > OS and everything I learn that the drivers are supposed to be > installed in a particular order. Has anyone dealt with this issue?
You normally install motherboard drivers, video drivers, LAN drivers, and any other built in device driver first, generally in that order. If you are installing SCSI drivers you do that before you install the OS (XP and earlier). And if you must choose between Legacy IDE mode or SATA mode you need to do that before you load the OS too. More detailed explanation of the issue would be helpful in getting intelligent responses.
> > Have a Dell laptop that is acting a little odd. After installing the > > OS and everything I learn that the drivers are supposed to be > > installed in a particular order. Has anyone dealt with this issue?
> You normally install motherboard drivers, video drivers, LAN drivers, and > any other built in device driver first, generally in that order. If you are > installing SCSI drivers you do that before you install the OS (XP and > earlier). And if you must choose between Legacy IDE mode or SATA mode you > need to do that before you load the OS too. > More detailed explanation of the issue would be helpful in getting > intelligent responses.
Well, the question is -- how can you look at a system and tell if the drivers have been installed in the correct order -- and if they weren't -- how would you fix that without a complete format and start over?
> On Nov 3, 5:31 pm, "TVeblen" <killtherob...@hal.net> wrote: >> "Davej" <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Have a Dell laptop that is acting a little odd. After installing the >> > OS and everything I learn that the drivers are supposed to be >> > installed in a particular order. Has anyone dealt with this issue?
>> You normally install motherboard drivers, video drivers, LAN drivers, and >> any other built in device driver first, generally in that order. If you >> are >> installing SCSI drivers you do that before you install the OS (XP and >> earlier). And if you must choose between Legacy IDE mode or SATA mode you >> need to do that before you load the OS too. >> More detailed explanation of the issue would be helpful in getting >> intelligent responses.
> Well, the question is -- how can you look at a system and tell if the > drivers have been installed in the correct order -- and if they > weren't -- how would you fix that without a complete format and start > over?
boot into safe mode - uninstall any graphics, sound and network drivers that have been installed by you - dont worry about drivers that the OS install automatically included. then install motherboard drivers (if the manufacturer provides them) and then video and then whatever....
sometimes the OS includes adequate drivers for the motherboard particularly if its a Intel chipset board and you just install the others.
On Nov 4, 2:25 am, "Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote:
> Davej wrote: > > Well, the question is -- how can you look at a system and tell if the > > drivers have been installed in the correct order
> No, that isn't the question.
> The question is, what does this mean?
> >> "Davej" wrote: > >>> Have a Dell laptop that is acting a little odd.
The keyboard status LEDs remain on. The mute button doesn't work. The power button **sometimes** doesn't wake the unit up without repeated presses. It is as if the motherboard driver isn't working right.
Davej wrote: > The keyboard status LEDs remain on. The mute button doesn't work. The > power button **sometimes** doesn't wake the unit up without repeated > presses. It is as if the motherboard driver isn't working right.
... or there is something wrong with the keyboard. Those sound like hardware inconsistencies to me rather than a driver problem.
It is a Dell laptop. Things break in LTs.
How well does everything on the keyboard work if you boot it up with some live CD? That way nothing about your OS install or its drivers matters.
"TVeblen" <killtherob...@hal.net> wrote: > "Davej" <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> Have a Dell laptop that is acting a little odd. After >> installing the OS and everything I learn that the drivers are >> supposed to be installed in a particular order. Has anyone >> dealt with this issue?
> You normally install motherboard drivers, video drivers, LAN > drivers, and any other built in device driver first, generally > in that order.
That does seem normal, but what if one of the less basic drivers steps on one of the more basic drivers.
> More detailed explanation of the issue would be helpful in getting > intelligent responses.
>>> Have a Dell laptop that is acting a little odd. After >>> installing the OS and everything I learn that the drivers are >>> supposed to be installed in a particular order. Has anyone >>> dealt with this issue?
>> You normally install motherboard drivers, video drivers, LAN >> drivers, and any other built in device driver first, generally >> in that order.
> That does seem normal, but what if one of the less basic drivers > steps on one of the more basic drivers.
I guess that's where experience kicks in. You got to know your system and your OS or you are looking up at the learning curve. I'm getting ready to use W7, so I know I will soon be standing at the bottom of that hill. But it beats the hell out of crosswords. Often I will just load all the drivers on the MB disk (because it's too damned much work to take it out and put it back in the slot ;-)) and then the video. It has never made much of a difference either way. If one driver steps on another I curse the coding gods and then uninstall both and reinstall them the other way around!
> > Have a Dell laptop that is acting a little odd. After installing the > > OS and everything I learn that the drivers are supposed to be > > installed in a particular order. Has anyone dealt with this issue?
> You normally install motherboard drivers, video drivers, LAN drivers, and > any other built in device driver first, generally in that order. If you are > installing SCSI drivers you do that before you install the OS (XP and > earlier). And if you must choose between Legacy IDE mode or SATA > mode you need to do that before you load the OS too. > More detailed explanation of the issue would be helpful in getting > intelligent responses.
Ok, at first I didn't think the Device Manager offered an Uninstall option, but it does, but the problem I see now is figuring out which drivers were supplied by the OS and which ones were added by Dell. I know which Dell files I downloaded and executed but I don't know what files were unpacked and installed. Maybe I can find that information on the Dell site. Thanks.
> > > Have a Dell laptop that is acting a little odd. After installing the > > > OS and everything I learn that the drivers are supposed to be > > > installed in a particular order. Has anyone dealt with this issue?
> > You normally install motherboard drivers, video drivers, LAN drivers, and > > any other built in device driver first, generally in that order. If you are > > installing SCSI drivers you do that before you install the OS (XP and > > earlier). And if you must choose between Legacy IDE mode or SATA mode you > > need to do that before you load the OS too. > > More detailed explanation of the issue would be helpful in getting > > intelligent responses.
> Well, the question is -- how can you look at a system and tell if the > drivers have been installed in the correct order -- and if they > weren't -- how would you fix that without a complete format and start > over?
I don't believe there's a "set to stone" requirement they are, though granted there may be conflicts and the easiest way (to avoid the programming kludge) could be to follow what's recommended. If not, well, then there's ways to test for conflicts with the appropriate "monitoring tools" -- namely what's being done to the registry and where, if at all overlaps occur, and what programs are overwriting one another with common system or same-named file and DLL links. Even better yet is to have a known good config (factory install), same provided driver installs (downloads available from some support centers) -- last, there's always a sector-to-sector binary backup for going in with whatever OS/drivers for compatibility issues, and backing out with a restore should things get out of hand.
Did that with a Thinkpad ages ago -- where really nasty, nasty things would happen to the HD. Being on a warrantee, I called IBM's support center, curious why it would entirely blow-off the HD, requiring IBM's support (LLF) format routine, at 8 or so hours, to even get back to square one. The support guy I talked to screamed at me: "YOU DID WHAT!!" -- after I told him I didn't want a Windows only system with their utilities, and had reinstalled a different OS for efficiency. No backup, though, so I had to do it all the "hard way" by figuring out, myself, what address ranges were a likely culprit to upper memory block (384k thingy between 640k and 1meg) "hardwired" to IBM's ROM for accessing the HD. A-ha and thought so...once I excluded the area, wasn't a problem.
I guess what the IBM guy was effectively trying to tell me, is that I was taxing his expertise. Ages ago. ...nowadays they all pretty much have professionally trained, nice people to talk to from faraway places, such as India. Depending, and not necessarily to be discounted. I was dumbfounded by Verizon's help links into Manila, PI, where an 800-operative took control remotely, over the modem, to fine tune programming for the modem's ROM. Except for when testing things out, which got a little complicated, so she called her supervisor -- whereupon he took one look at my system, grabbed the horn away from her, (running voice simultaneously, I think I could definitely hear him beginning to breath heavy over her shoulder before that), to told me: "You're really such a smart guy. Why don't you go and figure it out yourself."
Pretty smart guy, himself, I told him. Really enjoyed the experience -- last thing I'd expected from Verizon. Usually I threaten them first, in order to get someone's attention. :)
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