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>>>> Mother boards and related equipment have environmental ratings that >>>> tell you the maximum humidity and temperature they will tolerate. >>>> Exceed that and you run the risk of condensation and corrosion. >>>> Condensation on high frequency high impedance circuits can bring your >>>> computer down right now, blammo, and stay down until it dries. Just >>>> putting a finger across some of these traces will crash your >>>> computer. >>> You must be dealing with some awfully crappy motherboards with totally >>> bare traces.
>> Out there in the real world, it happens. Not every piece of electronic >> equipment is a nice neat color coordinated motherboard with pretty >> traces and an aesthetically pleasing design, not to mention your >> "conformal coating".
> Sorry,Zootal... I've been dealing with "real world" printed circuit > boards a long time. I might even venture that I was possibly repairing > them before you were born.
> I've repaired marine electronics from sunken boats, portable two-way > radios found in sewers, pagers that went swimming in toilets, dispatch > consoles that have had the "Pepsi Treatment" (lattes and mochas are > worse..but "PT" is the generic term), and radio base stations doused in > rat pee for years.
> I know what can happens from "exposure".
> Yes, early PC mobos were "bare-assed traces", but any reasonable mobo > made in the last 10-15 years has some form of coating. Your "finger > touch" doesn't fly.
>>>>>>> Not so long ago I cleaned the pc-case dust filters while the pc was >>>>>>> running... I decided not to dry the dust filters thoroughly because a >>>>>>> kid on youtube also didn't try them thoroughly... >>>>>> Is this guy for real? Or is this some kind of parody, like SPINALTAP? >>>>> Real, can't find the video of the kid...
>>>>> But search for antec 1200 and you'll see plenty of people washing their >>>>> dust filters with water ! ;)
>>>>> Makes ya wonder doesn't it ! ;) :)
>>>>> Bye, >>>>> Skybuck. >>>> Nothing wrong with that as long as you let them dry out.
>>> But then one needs to wait... which is "down time"... and might be >>> unneccessary ? >>> (Also cleaning it dry takes more time and toiletpaper ! ;))
>>> The real question is:
>>> What happens if it's slightly wet/moisturish ;)
>>> Anybody know ? ;) :) =D
>>> Bye, >>> Skybuck ;) =D
>> What happens if you just run the system without the dust filter on until >> it dries? Would it be so bad? Oh wait, why not get extra dust filters so >> you can rotate them out for cleaning...
>I thought about the idea of extra dust filters... might be a nice idea for >antec in the future ! Why didn't they think of it ! ;) :)
Antec sells them as replacements. Go to their online store.
>I would still like to know the answer to my question:
>What happens if the air in the room is moisterish... for example... suppose >I take a shower... and there is this gas burning near the pc... lot's of >gasses being burned and expelled into the air...
>What will the effect of burned gas be on for example the asus motherboard >?!?
>I am beginning to suspect that the asus motherboard in combination with >burned gasses, some moisture and heat... is corroding or so... ?!?
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>>>>> Mother boards and related equipment have environmental ratings that >>>>> tell you the maximum humidity and temperature they will tolerate. >>>>> Exceed that and you run the risk of condensation and corrosion. >>>>> Condensation on high frequency high impedance circuits can bring your >>>>> computer down right now, blammo, and stay down until it dries. Just >>>>> putting a finger across some of these traces will crash your computer. >>>> You must be dealing with some awfully crappy motherboards with totally >>>> bare traces.
>>> Out there in the real world, it happens. Not every piece of electronic >>> equipment is a nice neat color coordinated motherboard with pretty traces >>> and an aesthetically pleasing design, not to mention your "conformal >>> coating". >> Sorry,Zootal... I've been dealing with "real world" printed circuit boards >> a long time. I might even venture that I was possibly repairing them >> before you were born.
>> I've repaired marine electronics from sunken boats, portable two-way >> radios found in sewers, pagers that went swimming in toilets, dispatch >> consoles that have had the "Pepsi Treatment" (lattes and mochas are >> worse..but "PT" is the generic term), and radio base stations doused in >> rat pee for years.
>> I know what can happens from "exposure".
>> Yes, early PC mobos were "bare-assed traces", but any reasonable mobo made >> in the last 10-15 years has some form of coating. Your "finger touch" >> doesn't fly.
> It is possible you were repairing them before I was born. If so, that would > make you upwards of 75 years old. I've met older people out here, so I > suppose that is entirely possible. But don't tell me what is and is not out > there. Yes, there is a lot of nicely made boards properly coated etc. etc. > But I stand by my statement - there is a lot of stuff with "bare ass" > traces and worse. Once you get out of the realm of your pretty consumer > grade electronics and move into the world of military and custom (and > not-so-custom) commercial equipment, you see a stunning range of quality and > reliability - good and bad.
I started "at a young age" <g> (but true).... Do you remember military/industrial "printed circuit boards" with pencil tubes mounted in clips?
I think we both are trying to say the same things. I just have a problem with your statement that "Just putting a finger across some of these traces will crash your computer". Mainly the "will" part. The only time I've had a mobo crash from touch is when I've been finger-stomping around looking for board cracks (and did find same).
But consider this... this whole thread was started by "StyButt Flailing"; a person who could break an anvil by looking at it. If there was *one* set of traces on *one* motherboard in the whole world that would crash the pooter if touched, "SF" bought that mobo.
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De: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
Data: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:09:24 -0500
Local: Qui 5 nov 2009 02:09
Assunto: Re: Heat from heatpipes probably damaged a memory chip.
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