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For sure it should be IDE connector on MB for optical drive and you could put temporary ide hd in the case. More expensive solution is to buy disk enclosure and put in old HD and hook to USB port.
aaro...@pacbell.net wrote: > I have Windows XP, Norton Ghost, and a PC > computer that has a 160 gig Hitachi IDE hard drive. > I am considering purchasing a new > computer that accomodates only SATA drives. > What is the recommended method for transferring > contents of the IDE drive to the new SATA drive.?
You've got two choices.
You can put a cheap PCI sata card in the old PC and clone the drives that way.
You can put the IDE drive in one of the IDE/USB converters and clone it to the sata drive in the new system. This last isnt necessarily that easy to do if you dont have a bootable CD/DVD drive in the new system.
> aaro...@pacbell.net wrote: > You've got two choices.
> You can put a cheap PCI sata card in the > old PC and clone the drives that way.
> You can put the IDE drive in one of the IDE/USB converters > and clone it to the sata drive in the new system. This > last isnt necessarily that easy to do if you dont have > a bootable CD/DVD drive in the new system.
Similar question, I plan on using two IDE drives from an old machine as outboard backups using USB enclosures. I have several pieces of software I've downloaded that I would like to set up on the new machine, without installation discs how do I get such software up and running as I'm sure it's not as simple as copying the folder from one drive to another?
> Similar question, I plan on using two IDE drives from an old machine > as outboard backups using USB enclosures. I have several pieces of software I've downloaded that > I would like to set up on the new > machine, without installation discs how do I get such software up and > running as I'm sure it's not as simple as copying the folder from one > drive to another?
That's harder to do than you might think.
The simplest approach is to put the bootable IDE drive into one of those external enclosures, then boot the True Image 'rescue' CD and clone the IDE drive onto the internal sata drive.
You wont be able to boot the sata drive initially, because the XP install is using the drivers for the original PC chipset.
Boot the XP CD and do a repair install of XP on the sata drive. Operate as if you are doing a clean install of XP, tell it to install on the sata drive. The install will claim to have found an existing install of XP and offer to repair it. Accept that offer.
If the XP install cant see the sata drive, load the drivers for the sata drive very early in the boot of the XP CD.
Safest to use a slipsteamed XP CD because the new sata drive is likely bigger than 128GB.
That way you dont need to install the software that you no longer have the installation disks for anymore and you wont have to reconfigure the software either, the setting etc will be preserved and so will the XP settings etc too.
>> Similar question, I plan on using two IDE drives from an old machine >> as outboard backups using USB enclosures. I have several pieces of >> software I've downloaded that I would like to set up on the new >> machine, without installation discs how do I get such software up and >> running as I'm sure it's not as simple as copying the folder from one >> drive to another?
> That's harder to do than you might think.
> The simplest approach is to put the bootable IDE drive into > one of those external enclosures, then boot the True Image > 'rescue' CD and clone the IDE drive onto the internal sata drive.
> You wont be able to boot the sata drive initially, because > the XP install is using the drivers for the original PC chipset.
> Boot the XP CD and do a repair install of XP on the sata drive. > Operate as if you are doing a clean install of XP, tell it to install > on the sata drive. The install will claim to have found an existing > install of XP and offer to repair it. Accept that offer.
> If the XP install cant see the sata drive, load the drivers > for the sata drive very early in the boot of the XP CD.
> Safest to use a slipsteamed XP CD because > the new sata drive is likely bigger than 128GB.
> That way you dont need to install the software that you > no longer have the installation disks for anymore and you > wont have to reconfigure the software either, the setting > etc will be preserved and so will the XP settings etc too.
I just built a new system and did the same thing.
I purchased a cheap sata card and tried cloning my C drive to a new sata in the old computer.
The new system would not recognize the OS when I booted it up and offered a new install rather than a repair install.
So what I did was to back up the C drive to a second SATA in the old system. Install the second SATA to the new system and then boot from the Acronis rescue disk then allow Acronis to do its magic and reinstall the OS to the SATA C drive.
I then booted from a slipstreamed XP CD and did a repair install on the C drive.
Everything appears to work ok - with the exception of having to reinitialize a couple of programs. The new SATA C drive reported the same size as the old IDE C drive - which I fixed by using Partition Magic to partition the disk correctly and report the correct size.
I did have some intial problems in getting the board to POST but that was related to the fact that I had the wrong memory and the power supply was insufficient.
Nigel Brooks <nbro...@msn.com> wrote: > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:4pe6orFidlc4U1@individual.net... >> DGDevin <dgde...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>>> Similar question, I plan on using two IDE drives from an old machine >>> as outboard backups using USB enclosures. I have several pieces of >>> software I've downloaded that I would like to set up on the new >>> machine, without installation discs how do I get such software up >>> and running as I'm sure it's not as simple as copying the folder >>> from one drive to another?
>> That's harder to do than you might think.
>> The simplest approach is to put the bootable IDE drive into >> one of those external enclosures, then boot the True Image >> 'rescue' CD and clone the IDE drive onto the internal sata drive.
>> You wont be able to boot the sata drive initially, because >> the XP install is using the drivers for the original PC chipset.
>> Boot the XP CD and do a repair install of XP on the sata drive. >> Operate as if you are doing a clean install of XP, tell it to install >> on the sata drive. The install will claim to have found an existing >> install of XP and offer to repair it. Accept that offer.
>> If the XP install cant see the sata drive, load the drivers >> for the sata drive very early in the boot of the XP CD.
>> Safest to use a slipsteamed XP CD because >> the new sata drive is likely bigger than 128GB.
>> That way you dont need to install the software that you >> no longer have the installation disks for anymore and you >> wont have to reconfigure the software either, the setting >> etc will be preserved and so will the XP settings etc too.
> I just built a new system and did the same thing.
> I purchased a cheap sata card and tried cloning my C drive to a new > sata in the old computer.
> The new system would not recognize the OS when I booted it up and > offered a new install rather than a repair install.
> So what I did was to back up the C drive to a second SATA in the old > system. Install the second SATA to the new system and then boot from > the Acronis rescue disk then allow Acronis to do its magic and > reinstall the OS to the SATA C drive.
> I then booted from a slipstreamed XP CD and did a repair install on > the C drive. > Everything appears to work ok - with the exception of having to reinitialize a couple of programs. > The new SATA C drive reported the same size as the old IDE C drive -
That wont happen if you tell the clone op to expand the clone to fill the destination drive at clone time.
> which I fixed by using Partition Magic to partition the disk correctly and report the correct > size.
> I did have some intial problems in getting the board to POST but that > was related to the fact that I had the wrong memory and the power > supply was insufficient.
> Nigel Brooks <nbro...@msn.com> wrote: >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4pe6orFidlc4U1@individual.net... >>> DGDevin <dgde...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>>>> Similar question, I plan on using two IDE drives from an old machine >>>> as outboard backups using USB enclosures. I have several pieces of >>>> software I've downloaded that I would like to set up on the new >>>> machine, without installation discs how do I get such software up >>>> and running as I'm sure it's not as simple as copying the folder >>>> from one drive to another?
>>> That's harder to do than you might think.
>>> The simplest approach is to put the bootable IDE drive into >>> one of those external enclosures, then boot the True Image >>> 'rescue' CD and clone the IDE drive onto the internal sata drive.
>>> You wont be able to boot the sata drive initially, because >>> the XP install is using the drivers for the original PC chipset.
>>> Boot the XP CD and do a repair install of XP on the sata drive. >>> Operate as if you are doing a clean install of XP, tell it to install >>> on the sata drive. The install will claim to have found an existing >>> install of XP and offer to repair it. Accept that offer.
>>> If the XP install cant see the sata drive, load the drivers >>> for the sata drive very early in the boot of the XP CD.
>>> Safest to use a slipsteamed XP CD because >>> the new sata drive is likely bigger than 128GB.
>>> That way you dont need to install the software that you >>> no longer have the installation disks for anymore and you >>> wont have to reconfigure the software either, the setting >>> etc will be preserved and so will the XP settings etc too.
>> I just built a new system and did the same thing.
>> I purchased a cheap sata card and tried cloning my C drive to a new >> sata in the old computer.
>> The new system would not recognize the OS when I booted it up and >> offered a new install rather than a repair install.
>> So what I did was to back up the C drive to a second SATA in the old >> system. Install the second SATA to the new system and then boot from >> the Acronis rescue disk then allow Acronis to do its magic and >> reinstall the OS to the SATA C drive.
>> I then booted from a slipstreamed XP CD and did a repair install on >> the C drive.
>> Everything appears to work ok - with the exception of having to >> reinitialize a couple of programs. The new SATA C drive reported the same >> size as the old IDE C drive -
> That wont happen if you tell the clone op to expand > the clone to fill the destination drive at clone time.
That has always been my problem - failure to read the instructions.
> That way you dont need to install the software that you > no longer have the installation disks for anymore and you > wont have to reconfigure the software either, the setting > etc will be preserved and so will the XP settings etc too.
Well thanks, it might take me awhile to figure all that out, but thanks. I take it Acronis True Image is the way to go? I've been using Bounceback Express that came with the two drives I put into the old machine recently, I've actually been able to get software on the backup drive to run by going to folders on the backup drive and clicking on .exe files, I suppose that could be a last resort.
I guess I could contact some of the companies I bought the downloads from in the first place and tell them what's up, as I still have activation codes etc. and they have my money maybe they'll let me do another download. In future I'll always order a disc. ;^)
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote >> That way you dont need to install the software that you >> no longer have the installation disks for anymore and you >> wont have to reconfigure the software either, the setting >> etc will be preserved and so will the XP settings etc too. > Well thanks, it might take me awhile to figure all that out, but thanks. I take it Acronis True > Image is the way to go?
I like it, but its not the only thing that can clone a hard drive.
> I've been using Bounceback Express that came with the two drives I put into the old machine > recently, I've actually been able to get software on the backup drive to run by going to folders > on the backup drive and clicking on .exe files, I suppose that could be a last resort.
That wont work with a clean install with most apps, they wont have the registry entrys they need in the clean install.
> I guess I could contact some of the companies I bought the downloads from in the first place and > tell them what's up, as I still have activation codes etc. and they have my money maybe they'll > let me do another download.
>> I guess I could contact some of the companies I bought the downloads from >> in the first place and tell them what's up, as I still have activation >> codes etc. and they have my money maybe they'll let me do another >> download.
> Havent tried that.
I was able to do that before when a drive crashed and took the software with it, I don't know what sort of time limit they might put on it however.
>> In future I'll always order a disc. ;^)
> Or just backup what you download the first time.
Yeah, I seem to have kept some backups of downloads but not all the ones I want, I didn't expect to need a new machine so soon after replacing the hard drives, but it's developed other difficulties.
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