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Its classic interface is getting too much junk! I can't imagine how much worse the so-called new interface would be....
Is there a way to remove all those non-email related stuff? Or should I move everything to Gmail?
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> Its classic interface is getting too much junk! I can't imagine how much > worse the so-called new interface would be....
> Is there a way to remove all those non-email related stuff? Or should I > move everything to Gmail?
I have both. Agree on Yahoo classic not doing well. But... Two problems with Gmail. It is quite different than Yahoo mail - takes getting used to, and it does not support "nick-names" in the contacts list. Nick-names let me use two letter codes for regular contacts, Also, it looks different.
OTOH Google has lots of money and will be around for a while.
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:15:43 +0800, Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) wrote:
> Its classic interface is getting too much junk! I can't imagine how much > worse the so-called new interface would be....
> Is there a way to remove all those non-email related stuff? Or should I > move everything to Gmail?
Privoxy gets rid of the right-hand-side adverts. I have opera set up with privoxy and thunderbird without for the odd site that objects to a proxy (although you can toggle it on/off). screen shot of opera here - ads are replaced with either a chequered pattern or just text 'advertisement' http://www.imageno.com/d4yd8cpi07rmpic.html
I'm currently using linux ver 3.0.12 but windows users are stuck with 3.0.8
> Privoxy gets rid of the right-hand-side adverts. I have opera set up with > privoxy and thunderbird without for the odd site that objects to a proxy > (although you can toggle it on/off).
Does it work with Firefox?
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rich wrote: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:15:43 +0800, Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) > wrote:
>> Its classic interface is getting too much junk! I can't imagine how much >> worse the so-called new interface would be....
>> Is there a way to remove all those non-email related stuff? Or should I >> move everything to Gmail?
> Privoxy gets rid of the right-hand-side adverts. I have opera set up with > privoxy and thunderbird without for the odd site that objects to a proxy > (although you can toggle it on/off). > screen shot of opera here - ads are replaced with either a chequered > pattern or just text 'advertisement' > http://www.imageno.com/d4yd8cpi07rmpic.html
> I'm currently using linux ver 3.0.12 but windows users are stuck with > 3.0.8
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:11:58 +0800, Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) wrote:
>> Privoxy gets rid of the right-hand-side adverts. I have opera set up >> with privoxy and thunderbird without for the odd site that objects to a >> proxy (although you can toggle it on/off).
> Does it work with Firefox?
yes
have a look at "quickstart after installation" on the privoxy site.
the proxy settings for firefox are in Edit -> Preferences then 'Advanced -> 'Network' -> 'Connection' -> 'Setup' then enable 'Manual Proxy' and use (http proxy) 127.0.0.1 and (port) 8118
I've used privoxy for years and I know its not the easiest to understand and configure.
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:34:57 -0500, LouB wrote: > rich wrote: >> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:15:43 +0800, Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) >> wrote:
>>> Its classic interface is getting too much junk! I can't imagine how >>> much worse the so-called new interface would be....
>>> Is there a way to remove all those non-email related stuff? Or should >>> I move everything to Gmail?
>> Privoxy gets rid of the right-hand-side adverts. I have opera set up >> with privoxy and thunderbird without for the odd site that objects to a >> proxy (although you can toggle it on/off). >> screen shot of opera here - ads are replaced with either a chequered >> pattern or just text 'advertisement' >> http://www.imageno.com/d4yd8cpi07rmpic.html
>> I'm currently using linux ver 3.0.12 but windows users are stuck with >> 3.0.8
> The junk is really only on the lead-in page(s). Messages list and > messages themselves are clean - no junk.
> Lou
Yes, I found that as well, The UK version is 'BT-Yahoo' so I don't know if its the same around the world. My Yahoo account is really a legacy from many years ago that I hardly use these days, I have a "restricted" account with my ISP then several gmail/googlemail accounts for different purposes. Much prefer gmail.
> The junk is really only on the lead-in page(s). > Messages list and messages themselves are clean - no junk.
Yahoo Mail should offer a text-only interface! It's a total waste of time reading those front-page stuff and Yahoo Messenger at the sidebar....
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hummingbird wrote: > 'Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B)' wrote thus:
>> Its classic interface is getting too much junk! I can't imagine how much >> worse the so-called new interface would be....
>> Is there a way to remove all those non-email related stuff? Or should I >> move everything to Gmail?
> Yes. > I now use gmail and have auto-redirection to my sane mail server > switched on to actually read/respond to e-mails. Generally webmail > is a PITA but meets a need for muppets who know of nothing else. > YMMV.
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:11:50 -0500, LouB wrote: > Why? What is wrong with web mail.
Nothing, you should use it all the time.
> And please do not call me names.
I was taught not to call retards names. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]-- grok! Devoted Microsoft User
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:51:26 +0800, Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) wrote:
>> The junk is really only on the lead-in page(s). Messages list and >> messages themselves are clean - no junk.
> Yahoo Mail should offer a text-only interface! It's a total waste of > time reading those front-page stuff and Yahoo Messenger at the > sidebar....
This is not a (very) serious suggestion but why not a text only browser. I got into the internet just as dos applications were being replaced by windows and it is much easier these days.
Just tried OffbyOne, and to my surprise it logged on to BT-Yahoo.
> 'LouB' wrote thus: >>hummingbird wrote: <snip> > On the plus side, webmail does allow you to access e-mails from > anywhere in the world, but many ISPs now allow you to do that via > their own "ad-free" webmail without all the crap overhead and > bandwidth consumption.
< Pick a webmail with pop3 options, like gmail or ymail
Use the pop3 for everyday use, and webmail is there for you to use when away from home
>> hummingbird wrote: >>> 'Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B)' wrote thus:
>>>> Its classic interface is getting too much junk! I can't imagine how much >>>> worse the so-called new interface would be....
>>>> Is there a way to remove all those non-email related stuff? Or should I >>>> move everything to Gmail? >>> Yes. >>> I now use gmail and have auto-redirection to my sane mail server >>> switched on to actually read/respond to e-mails. Generally webmail >>> is a PITA but meets a need for muppets who know of nothing else. >>> YMMV.
>> Why? What is wrong with web mail.
> "Man-wai Chang to The Door" explained one of them - full of > ads and other crap to the point where it's sometimes difficult to > deal with e-mail! Then there's the logon process which is subject > to server load and occasional downtime (hotmail was down for > a while yesterday morning). Then there's the issue of handling > attachments etc. Some other problems too. The UI constantly > changes to baulk programs like FreePOPs. Compare your bandwidth > consumption when you check your webmail (hotmail/yahoo/etc) using > an aggregator like Magic Mail Monitor/FreePOPs with bandwidth > used when you check your own ISP's inbox using your regular e-mail > client.
> On the plus side, webmail does allow you to access e-mails from > anywhere in the world, but many ISPs now allow you to do that via > their own "ad-free" webmail without all the crap overhead and > bandwidth consumption.
>> And please do not call me names.
> LOL. My reference was to folks who only know webmail and have > not heard of such things as "e-mail clients". You are not in that > muppet category, Lou.
> Peace :-)
Well you did hit some of the annoyances, esp with Yahoo. But it does work, albeit slowly sometimes. If it is really slow there is always solitare for a minute or two:-))
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:03:47 -0500, LouB wrote: > Jeffrey Bloss wrote: >> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:11:50 -0500, LouB wrote:
>>> Why? What is wrong with web mail.
>> Nothing, you should use it all the time.
>>> And please do not call me names.
>> I was taught not to call retards names.
> Say Jeffery Do you know what a filter is?
It's that thing stuck between your lips, Retard.
> You are now in mine.
Better than you trying to stuff me up your asscrack. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]-- grok! Devoted Microsoft User
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:05:53 +0000, hummingbird wrote: > 'Steve Terry' wrote thus:
>>"hummingbird" <hummingbír...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message >>news:a34f0c6295a41de239aaf350300b1dfd@aracari.127.0.0.1... >>> 'LouB' wrote thus: >>>>hummingbird wrote: >><snip> >>> On the plus side, webmail does allow you to access e-mails from >>> anywhere in the world, but many ISPs now allow you to do that via >>> their own "ad-free" webmail without all the crap overhead and >>> bandwidth consumption.
>>< >>Pick a webmail with pop3 options, like gmail or ymail
>>Use the pop3 for everyday use, and webmail is there for you to use >>when away from home
>>Steve Terry
> Yeah thanks, I need to look into that more deeply.
Pick a webmail with IMAP or your webmail experience will suck bigtime if you access via POP only (client and web). -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]-- grok! Devoted Microsoft User
> Pick a webmail with IMAP or your webmail experience will suck bigtime if > you access via POP only (client and web).
Well, Thunderbird has a webmail extension that fetches email from your Yahoo inbox (and inbox only) like POP3.
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> Its classic interface is getting too much junk! I can't imagine how much > worse the so-called new interface would be....
> Is there a way to remove all those non-email related stuff? Or should I > move everything to Gmail?
I am also a legacy Yahoo! Email Classic user. More and more social networking tools, widgets, and craplets are being injected all the time. When they added the Yahoo Messenger to the left side of the Classic Mail Page, I found the only way I could keep from having myself announced as being online to those who have me on their lists was to disable Flash. I use Prefbar with Firefox to uncheck flash till I need it. It can be found here: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ That has been one way to help keep Yahoo Classic Email simple for me.
> Page, I found the only way I could keep from having myself announced as > being online to those who have me on their lists was to disable Flash. > I use Prefbar with Firefox to uncheck flash till I need it. It can be > found here: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ > That has been one way to help keep Yahoo Classic Email simple for me.
I have FlashBlock installed in my Firefox. So FlashBlock alone doesn't work?
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Oldphart wrote: > Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) wrote: >> Its classic interface is getting too much junk! I can't imagine how >> much worse the so-called new interface would be....
>> Is there a way to remove all those non-email related stuff? Or should >> I move everything to Gmail?
> I am also a legacy Yahoo! Email Classic user. More and more social > networking tools, widgets, and craplets are being injected all the time. > When they added the Yahoo Messenger to the left side of the Classic Mail > Page, I found the only way I could keep from having myself announced as > being online to those who have me on their lists was to disable Flash. > I use Prefbar with Firefox to uncheck flash till I need it. It can be > found here: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ > That has been one way to help keep Yahoo Classic Email simple for me.
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:45:06 +0800, Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) wrote:
>> Pick a webmail with IMAP or your webmail experience will suck bigtime if >> you access via POP only (client and web).
> Well, Thunderbird has a webmail extension that fetches email from your > Yahoo inbox (and inbox only) like POP3.
yippee -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]-- grok! Devoted Microsoft User
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:11:39 -0500, LouB wrote: > Thx
lol
LouB, Mr. Complexity. -- _?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. (@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]-- grok! Devoted Microsoft User
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:49:40 GMT, rich <r...@nohome.com> wrote: >On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:51:26 +0800, Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) >wrote:
>>> The junk is really only on the lead-in page(s). Messages list and >>> messages themselves are clean - no junk.
>> Yahoo Mail should offer a text-only interface! It's a total waste of >> time reading those front-page stuff and Yahoo Messenger at the >> sidebar....
>This is not a (very) serious suggestion but why not a text only browser. >I got into the internet just as dos applications were being replaced by >windows and it is much easier these days.
>Just tried OffbyOne, and to my surprise it logged on to BT-Yahoo.
Many Yahoo Mail accounts now have free POP3 access. I have three accounts and two are accessible with POP3. I have no idea why the third doesn't work. Perhaps they are implementing it in stages.
Incoming Mail Server (POP3): pop.mail.yahoo.com Use account name before the @yahoo.com as user name and the password. I am using SSL on port 995.
Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP): smtp.mail.yahoo.com I am using SSL on port 465. Set Server requires authentication and use the Logon info from the incoming mail.
I think non SSL access works also, but I wanted SSL.
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:51:26 +0800, Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) >>wrote:
>>>> The junk is really only on the lead-in page(s). Messages list and >>>> messages themselves are clean - no junk.
>>> Yahoo Mail should offer a text-only interface! It's a total waste of >>> time reading those front-page stuff and Yahoo Messenger at the >>> sidebar....
>>This is not a (very) serious suggestion but why not a text only browser. >>I got into the internet just as dos applications were being replaced by >>windows and it is much easier these days.
>>Just tried OffbyOne, and to my surprise it logged on to BT-Yahoo.
>Many Yahoo Mail accounts now have free POP3 access. I have three >accounts and two are accessible with POP3. I have no idea why the >third doesn't work. Perhaps they are implementing it in stages.
>Incoming Mail Server (POP3): pop.mail.yahoo.com >Use account name before the @yahoo.com as user name and the password. >I am using SSL on port 995.
>Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP): smtp.mail.yahoo.com >I am using SSL on port 465. >Set Server requires authentication and use the Logon info from the >incoming mail.
>I think non SSL access works also, but I wanted SSL.
>HTH
I should have said use the correct Yahoo password in case that wasn't obvious.
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