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It seems that everyone is using Flash video now.... :)
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Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) wrote in <hcrgbr$63...@news.eternal-september.org>:
>It seems that everyone is using Flash video now.... :)
If not everyone, then many...: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_format "[...] The format has quickly established itself as the format of choice for embedded video on the web. Notable users of the Flash Video format include YouTube, Google Video, Yahoo! Video, metacafe, Reuters.com, and many other news providers. The standards documentation for BBC Online deprecates the use of other formats previously in use on its sites[3] such as RealVideo or WMV.
Though the Flash Video container format itself is open, the codecs used with it are patented. Flash Video FLV files usually contain material encoded with codecs following the Sorenson Spark or VP6 compression formats. The most recent public releases of Flash Player also support H.264 video and HE-AAC audio.
Flash Video is viewable on most operating systems, via the widely available Adobe Flash Player and web browser plugin, or one of several third-party programs.[...]"
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"Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B)" <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote in news:hcrgbr$630$4 @news.eternal-september.org:
> It seems that everyone is using Flash video now.... :)
I recently got a new computer and decided not to install QuickTime, Java or Shockwave. To date (it's been over 3 months) I have only had issues with one site that wanted Java but has an alternate view that doesn't require Java. I can't say I've missed any of them and there is a lot less updating required for security patches.
My feeling is that QuickTime deserves to die. I allow that I have a special grudge against this program, as well as against Apple for unleashing it like a vengeance into the Microsoft world.
When I installed it a long time ago on my PC, I found it to be as destructive and invasive to my computer as was Real Player. In order to get the damned thing off my machine, I had to re-format my hard disk. Nothing is worth having to go through that. I'll live without the content.
> When I installed it a long time ago on my PC, I found it to be as > destructive and invasive to my computer as was Real Player. In order to > get the damned thing off my machine, I had to re-format my hard disk. > Nothing is worth having to go through that. I'll live without the content.
I agree with you on this!
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>> When I installed it a long time ago on my PC, I found it to be as >> destructive and invasive to my computer as was Real Player. In order >> to get the damned thing off my machine, I had to re-format my hard >> disk. Nothing is worth having to go through that. I'll live without >> the content.
> I agree with you on this!
+1
It will be a good day when we can all do without Quicktime (any version) and Realtime player.
Frankly, I'm thinking of removing Realtime player from my machine anyway. I don't think it serves a purpose anymore.
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Fuzzy Logic wrote: > "Man-wai Chang to The Door wrote:
>> It seems that everyone is using Flash video now.... :)
> I recently got a new computer and decided not to install QuickTime, Java or Shockwave. To date (it's been over > 3 months) I have only had issues with one site that wanted Java but has an alternate view that doesn't require > Java. I can't say I've missed any of them and there is a lot less updating required for security patches.
I have a friend who uses Scottrade to manage his investments. The site requires that you have JRE installed.
However, in my case I've seen no overwhelming need to have JRE installed and I still believe that doing so exposes you to more security problems.
There have been a few programs written in the Java environment that I was interested in, but in the end I decided that I could live without them. I forget what programs they were, but OpenOffice.org uses Java:
"Java is required for complete OpenOffice.org functionality. Java is mainly required for the HSQLDB database engine (used by our database product Base) and to make use of accessibility and assistive technologies. Furthermore some wizards rely on Java technology. If you do not require these features, then you do not need to have Java installed for running OpenOffice.org.
So what does this imply for me? Base (the database component) relies completely on Java technologies to run, but other programs (like Writer, Calc and Impress) only need Java for special functionality. We do recommend that you have a Java Runtime Environment on your system, and therefore our default installation offering includes a JRE (which adds about 15MB to the total download size)."
Occasionally, I install OOo to obtain some document goal, but as soon as the task is completed, I remove OOo and JRE completely from my system (having monitored the install.)
OOo could easily have been programmed without using JRE, but since Sun Microsystems funds OOo development:
it's obvious why JRE is incorporated since it's in SM's interest to have JRE installed on as many computers as possible.
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> Occasionally, I install OOo to obtain some document goal, but as soon as > the task is completed, I remove OOo and JRE completely from my system > (having monitored the install.)
Thanks for pointing this out, John. I tried OO when it was early in v1. I was very impressed with it even though it was rough around the edges. But I was concerned about a certain klutziness, what seemed like bloat, and occasional sluggishness. I returned to MS.
I guess that I'll remain with MS Office for the time being, although it would be nice to find an alternative to Word, especially something that's designed more for straight-ahead writing and less for gee-wiz desktop publishing. FrameMaker does that bit better anyway, but Adobe's stuff is just so damn expensive!
John Corliss wrote: > It will be a good day when we can all do without Quicktime (any version) > and Realtime player.
> Frankly, I'm thinking of removing Realtime player from my machine > anyway. I don't think it serves a purpose anymore.
Maybe this comes down to whom you want to hang out with. I used to get pretty pissed at content providers who distributed their stuff in Real format. Then, they all seemed to change to .mp3, and this is agreeable. I consume a great many radio (and Internet radio) programs. Real's business model is incredibly cynical and abusive to the content consumer. MP3 is proprietary, but things certainly have appeared loose in that regard.
As I understand it, Real is very easy for content providers to use for encoding. In fact, I have a friend who records directors' meetings for a large university with it. I recall that on that end, it's either cheap or free. At this point in time, the only content provider who is still using it is the Public Radio program, "To the Best of our Knowledge," and the BBC. So, I live without them even though BBC's works via a stand-alone player that's not installed on my machine.
> Frankly, I'm thinking of removing Realtime player from my machine > anyway. I don't think it serves a purpose anymore.
You can. Install Real Alternative to watch rm/rmvb!
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> desktop publishing. FrameMaker does that bit better anyway, but Adobe's > stuff is just so damn expensive!
Is it because Adobe's customers are mainly Fortune 500 employees?
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> I guess that I'll remain with MS Office for the time being, although it > would be nice to find an alternative to Word, especially something > that's designed more for straight-ahead writing and less for gee-wiz > desktop publishing. FrameMaker does that bit better anyway, but Adobe's > stuff is just so damn expensive!
AbiWord is supposed to be a very nice alternative. Haven't tried it myself but it's made the pricelessware list a number of times. For desktop publishing, btw, Scribus, does an excellent job. If you haven't tried it recently, give it a whirl.
Recently, I've been using a pretty generic text editor (gedit). I figure the content is king and I can decide on the format (if necessary) later.
hth,
PROGRAM_NAME: AbiWord VERSION: 2.6.4 RELEASE_DATE: 2008-7-14 HOMEPAGE: http://www.abisource.com/ DOWNLOAD: http://www.abisource.com/download/ WINDOWS_OS: W2000, XP, Vista OTHER_OS: Linux DESCRIPTION: AbiWord is an "Open Source" word processor which combines state-of-the-art usability, powerful features, and excellent interoperability. Furthermore, it features a powerful framework for supporting custom extensions. REMARKS: Recommended version for Win9x is 2.4.6 COMPANY: --- AUTHOR: AbiSource community
PROGRAM_NAME: Scribus VERSION: 1.3.3.12 RELEASE_DATE: 2008-6-12 HOMEPAGE: http://www.scribus.net/ DOWNLOAD: http://www.scribus.net/?q=downloads WINDOWS_OS: Win2k, XP OTHER_OS: Linux/Unix, MacOSX, OS/2 DESCRIPTION: Desktop publisher that supports professional publishing features, such as CMYK color, separations, ICC color management and versatile PDF creation. REMARKS: COMPANY: --- AUTHOR: Scribus Team
On 11/04/2009 01:09 AM, Man-wai Chang to The Door (+MS=32B) wrote:
> It seems that everyone is using Flash video now.... :)
Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for (proprietary plug-ins). - Ernest Hemingway, author & internet visionary
> HTML5 aims to reduce the use of proprietary plug-in-based rich > Internet application (RIA) technologies such as Adobe Flash, > Microsoft Silverlight, and Sun JavaFX, though it would take many > years to do so
Craig wrote: > For > desktop publishing, btw, Scribus, does an excellent job. If you haven't > tried it recently, give it a whirl.
I was going to say something about the 8 part Scribus Tutorial that appeared in the first 8 editions of Full Circle magazine, but then I realized that there are so many good scribus tutorials that people make pages providing links to collections of them.
There are also so many that there are 'bad' tutorials as well :-)
>> For >> desktop publishing, btw, Scribus, does an excellent job. If you > haven't >> tried it recently, give it a whirl.
> I was going to say something about the 8 part Scribus Tutorial that > appeared in the first 8 editions of Full Circle magazine, but then I > realized that there are so many good scribus tutorials that people make > pages providing links to collections of them.
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:39:18 +0100, Yrrah wrote: > John Corliss <q34ws...@yahoo.com>:
>> Occasionally, I install OOo to obtain some document goal, but as soon as >> the task is completed, I remove OOo and JRE completely from my system >> (having monitored the install.)
> I use OOo Portable (no Java) occasionally and never needed the Java > requiring components. Currently my preferred free word processor is > Textmaker (from Softmaker's free office suite).
> Yrrah
With OOo portable, you can copy the JRE files to a folder in the OOo tree and leave it for the use of OOo alone. It won't affect the rest of the machine. This way you can have it in a dark corner on your hard drive whenever you need it without installing anything, and still have full functionality.
>> Frankly, I'm thinking of removing Realtime player from my machine >> anyway. I don't think it serves a purpose anymore.
> You can. Install Real Alternative to watch rm/rmvb!
Actually, that's what I was thinking of removing since I would never in my wildest dreams have consent to installing the real, Realtime Player on my computer.
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:18:14 -0800, Craig wrote: > On 11/05/2009 08:54 AM, Mike Easter wrote: >> Craig wrote:
>>> For >>> desktop publishing, btw, Scribus, does an excellent job. If you >> haven't >>> tried it recently, give it a whirl.
>> I was going to say something about the 8 part Scribus Tutorial that >> appeared in the first 8 editions of Full Circle magazine, but then I >> realized that there are so many good scribus tutorials that people make >> pages providing links to collections of them.
> </leans forward in chair/>
> C'mon, Mike... Just one? Please? Put it up my arse!
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Craig wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> Craig wrote: >>> Scribus, does an excellent job. >> I was going to say something about the 8 part Scribus Tutorial that >> appeared in the first 8 editions of Full Circle magazine, but then I >> realized that there are so many good scribus tutorials that people make >> pages providing links to collections of them.
> </leans forward in chair/>
> C'mon, Mike... Just one? Please?
Well, these aren't necessarily the best, but the about.com article has a catchy title: Dozens of Scribus Tutorials - http://snipurl.com/t2s4o but not actually dozens.
Since scribus publishes a deadtree book they like to sell, I have to assume that the other tutorials mentioned on the links page besides the 8 part series must also be pretty good, but I have only glanced at the one by Jessica Warren.
> Well, these aren't necessarily the best, but the about.com article has a > catchy title: Dozens of Scribus Tutorials - http://snipurl.com/t2s4o but > not actually dozens.
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:06:07 +0100, Yrrah wrote: > Craig <netburg...@REMOVEgmail.com>:
>> PROGRAM_NAME: AbiWord
> Can't handle complex MS Word documents properly. OOo Writer works fine > without Java. > For most users SoftMaker's TextMaker will cover all their word > processing needs and more, I guess. > http://www.softmakeroffice.com/
John Corliss wrote: >> You can. Install Real Alternative to watch rm/rmvb!
> Actually, that's what I was thinking of removing since I would never in > my wildest dreams have consent to installing the real, Realtime Player > on my computer.
I remember that we went round and round and round about this, was it three years ago? We couldn't figure our whether Real Alternative was truly an alternative or was, in fact, just another product from Real Networks!
Alternative had a number of files that were identified as Real products, including one file that consisted of a Real Networks logo! If it were truly an "alternative," why would it include that file? And no alternative source was ever listed: the thing sort of came upon the scene from the mists of outer space. Not even a mysterious "Gabest" to identify.
Real's business model is downright disgusting. It was an attempt to create a huge captive market to turn us over to advertisers who would pay them to "serve" us. It almost worked, too! Their software raped our computers, turning our machines into their own dedicated servers with the clients being our ears and eyeballs. The whole enterprise was brilliantly diabolic, the kind of evil undead thing that Dick Cheney could think up.